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    Quote Originally Posted by Eab1990 View Post
    Black bishop Eterna and her collection event confirmed for next week, and Alice in the shrine.
    Nice i love event blacks the last one i got was that ninja which i don't use at all (Saki has proven to be as good if not better atm)
    Looked Eterna up on the wiki and she seems kinda... meh as far as i've read; her AT is not exactly that high to replace my Oddete and her AW ability is AT speed up... and SAW is healing and attack at the same time for 90 seconds...

    I will farm her but she doesn't seem that interesting until SAW'd (that minimum 33 UP for a black mage tho)
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    Damn, I expected the next one to be collection but still hoped for more time to build up SCs. This one looks a bit rough too,maybe only 500-600/1600 without spending anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmiq View Post
    Damn, I expected the next one to be collection but still hoped for more time to build up SCs. This one looks a bit rough too,maybe only 500-600/1600 without spending anything.
    1600 for mincost max skill, considering the max drops per sta is on the Pumping King map with 2.29; We're looking at around 80 runs with perfect drop, natural regen for the event gives 336 sta + whathever you start with. given a random factor multiplying that 80 perfect rounds by 1.5 we have 120 runs for average-bad luck and since we can de 50~ runs with just natural regen assuming we don't waste a single sta point, we are looking at 15~ SC just thinking on STA so throw in a few for charisma too

    Totally not using SC for her, i mean she's not Karma-tier. Probably will go with just natural regen and skipping monday and thursdays as usual

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    honestly , karma is just as good at max cr as at non cr. What matters there is her skill level .You need karma simply to stop mega bosses more then anything else...and msot of the times , you will have enough up for her regardless of her cost.

    Eterna on the other hand doens't seem especially impressive....untill u see her saw (which considering she is a black , we will have it as soon as we get eterna). Her saw is long lasting (90 seconds) and rather good.

    Sure , her attack is going to get reduced , but at 825 base attack , it means that her saw will do 660 when her saw is used , without prince buff or any other boosters. Assuming 20% from prince buff , it's around 800 or so again (it depends how the prince buff interacts with the saw debuf )

    Regardless , an unit that does 800 damage (keep in mind that her attack speed is buffed a bit by her aw passive) as well as healing at the same time is pretty good in my opinion.



    I for one , will try to max her

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    What?! We are getting Eterna already?! Does this mean we are getting Nataku as well? If that's the case then damn it! I was hoping to build up enough SC to try and roll for her. If not then I still got some time.

    Anyway,

    @lolix Ah so that's how SAW works then. I have Eterna over on DMM (albeit non cr) and was a little worried that her skill took too much away from her performance. Good to know she can still pack a punch. I for one will also try to get her up as best I can. But good heavens, it's a shock to get her so soon.

    Edit - I just took a look at the first page and it seems that we were supposed to get Alice with Ricola's event. So I assuming that Nataku will come at a later date and I overreacted a bit. Hopefully I get enough crystals to try to roll for her until then.
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    Eterna's biggest problem is that she's expensive but her skill attempts to provide good value for the UP rather than something OP like gacha blacks get. So she's pretty solid if the pace of the map lets her simultaneously replace a mage and a healer but otherwise is kinda underwhelming by black standards.

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    well, I spent SC on Nagi's event b/c everyone told me if you don't have a ninja - you better get her as she's good at subjugation maps, clearing yokai

    Eterna - sounds like she's not good if you have Odette or something - should look up Eterna on Aigis Wikia
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    Quote Originally Posted by HungryHunter View Post
    well, I spent SC on Nagi's event b/c everyone told me if you don't have a ninja - you better get her as she's good at subjugation maps, clearing yokai

    Eterna - sounds like she's not good if you have Odette or something - should look up Eterna on Aigis Wikia
    I wouldn't really compare the two as they are two different classes unless you're looking at clean stats. In that case then Mages win out over Bishops in most cases but you see this whenever you compare a hybrid class to its "parent" class.

    Eterna base skill heals allies, Odette decreases incoming magick damage. Eterna SAW'ed heals and attacks enemies for less attack and Odette SAW'ed decreases enemy magick resistance making her hit harder. Regardless of how you look at it Odette beats Eterna in stats. As I said though this is nearly always the case. Bishops also focus on healing something Mages can't do. It really depends on what you want and need.

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    also , you could perfect nagi without wasting any scs because nutaku screwed up the map costs


    there is also the fact that saki exists and is better at being a ninja IMO then nagi is. Ofc vs youkai nagi is better , and her skill lets makes her able to duel somewhat , but still....i'd rather use saki as a ninja (especially with her saw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaxer View Post
    1600 for mincost max skill, considering the max drops per sta is on the Pumping King map with 2.29; We're looking at around 80 runs with perfect drop, natural regen for the event gives 336 sta + whathever you start with. given a random factor multiplying that 80 perfect rounds by 1.5 we have 120 runs for average-bad luck and since we can de 50~ runs with just natural regen assuming we don't waste a single sta point, we are looking at 15~ SC just thinking on STA so throw in a few for charisma too

    Totally not using SC for her, i mean she's not Karma-tier. Probably will go with just natural regen and skipping monday and thursdays as usual
    Isn't Meeting of Souls from the 2nd half of the event max drop 2.6 per stam? Unless you really want to go all out, you should be able to save SCs without using any on Charisma since it's 40/5 you should have plenty of Charisma leftover. Still...I'm still torn on whether or not to bother, Paula is decent and can just wait on a revival to mincost. The next item collection should be Metus, right?

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