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I'll probably just save my SAW fairy and wait for plats.

Black SAW isn't necessarily better since they lose the 1-second activation. With the obvious exception of characters with godly SAWs like Elyse or Aisha. But Nanaly/Berna lose out on their potential insta-deletions, while Karma SAW is outright terrible.

For plats, I'll probably get the most mileage out of Rikka or something first.

Lilia, Shiho, Noel, and Solano are pretty high on my list too.

5 attacks , for 4 seconds more deploy timer is really good imo

A lot of units have sidegrades rather then straight up upgrades on their saws. Nanaly is a straight up upgrade

For maps that are tight on UP cost (hi Danger in the Oasis), those extra four seconds can be fatal.

But I have three Nanalys anyway, so...

well....when we get second AW , you will have 6 which is ...cool i guess


Also i kinda agree on karma's being bad. Karma's skill is so great because you can trow her against literally anything and activate her skill isntantly , and she will do her job. Her saw makes it that its not possible to make her a ganker vs a very strong boss because she can die before her skill comes online.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

For maps that are tight on UP cost (hi Danger in the Oasis), those extra four seconds can be fatal.

But I have three Nanalys anyway, so...

My problem with this line of thinking is that I value map trivializing power a lot more than I value the niche utility of being a bit more viable in gimmicky low UP maps. I say this mostly because the former is somewhat rare whereas the alternate solutions to tight maps is often as common as reaching back into your unused & unloved units bin and pulling out a couple of silvers or some easily CR'd event unit and giving them a cameo appearance. I mean, yeah, sure, SAWing every Nanaly you own isn't really a priority when you have multiples but for most players you're going to be better off SAWing units like Berna for her AoE assassination and Nanaly for her raw power rather than fretting over maps that you can typically squeak through by deploying a a cc'd Khuri.

Anyway, who to eventually SAW is mostly a no brainer for me since my gacha blacks include Sophie, Clissa, Deine and Despara. 4 seconds isn't nothing, but it might as well be compared to that much extra aoe potential and boss smashing power.

Well, Berna 5/5 vs. SAW isn't as much of a dealbreaker, since anything she doesn't assassinate in one second vs. anything she doesn't assassinate in five probably won't make much difference if she "dies" before getting 2-3 hits in with the former, especially if you throw her against something like a golem.

Using Nanaly 5/5 vs. SAW to cheese something instead of just using CC'd Khuri is admittedly laziness on my part.

Biggest question is whether we get the rebalanced SAWs or not. It's kind of a dealbreaker for Deine. That said, i'll be SAWing Aisha first so she can make the SAW fairy map a lot easier.

And i agree with kay on this one. Getting their upgraded SAWs is way more important than worrying about some 5 sec activation for that one odd map. What you should worry about is whether it helps your character as a whole. Karma and Anya are good examples. In Karma's case, her general use IS to be dropped and activated asap, but at the same time if the UP isn't too tight there should be no problem dropping her 5 sec earlier unless she needs to survive some ranged attack (let's not count golems, who the heck uses Karma vs golems?...). Anya goes from defensive to offensive so that's a trade-off to consider.

Things lika Aisha, Berna and Nanaly should not even be doubted a second, there are other alternatives for those super odd maps.

While i'm at it, i figure Estelle will most likely get brought up. SAW her if you have her. I had this very same doubt on DMM when it was my time to AW Estelle, and i must say i do not regret SAWing her. In fact, so many times on nutaku i have wondered when we would get SAW because my Estelle here feels gimped without it.

i got ester from a premium summon and looking at the stats i am pretty sure her SAW is great. 45 seconds flying to 60 seconds flying with 1.5x attack and only 20% def hit. and her awakened ability of 50% extra flight time for all pegs means she goes from just flying to flying and MURDERING EVERYTHING.
also it's only def not MR so she can tank ranged magic just as well as ever.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

while Karma SAW is outright terrible.

Why? You lose the ability to activate immediately, but gain higher attack and 2 more seconds of immortality. Defense is not something you care that much about with Karma, and it does allow her to heal your other units for a greater amount.
Or am I missing something, other than the 5 second activation timer?

It's 13 seconds immortality for both 5/5 and SAW.

But yes, the entire point of using her is as an emergency lightning rod. If you extend the startup time, you may as well just use tokens instead.