Thread: Super tanks

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Diina>Deine DPS

While true, i do not have Diina, so i did not include her in my statement purely out of that.

That said, i noticed we did not get her 2x def on SAW yet, that's sad.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

While true, i do not have Diina, so i did not include her in my statement purely out of that.

That said, i noticed we did not get her 2x def on SAW yet, that's sad.

Diina does get a 2x def on her saw later on?
That would make me so happy cause that was my biggest problem with getting her instead of deine

That post above was mine, forgot to log in. I just compared the english DMM wiki with ours. Looks like heavys get buffed i guess. -1cr, increase in hp, def, atk. Pre AW ability has 20% instead of 15% chance and post aw adds 10% extra def to the 25% nullify chance. SAW lasts 5 seconds longer and adds 2x def.
I want this update so hard now xD it seperates diina more from grace.

So, I updated the table to include the missing units that have been noted so far. I also attack values for the units, adjusted the appearance, and moved it to the second post of the thread to make it more obvious to people coming here for information on super tanks. If there are any super tanks missing from the table, let me know and I'll see about adding them.

man, I should really try to lvl up Cornelia

Huh... It seems that Conrad can actually manage to tank a complete mythril golem if you have enough hp boosters for him. Given he's a gold bandit, that actually is possible, between Adele (+10% HP), Aisha (+14% HP), Imelia (+10% HP), Sherry (+5% HP, Attack, Def), and Matsuri (+5% HP, Attack, Def). He only needs +29% normally, or +36% while using a skill. Mind the issue there is that while most of those are units you'd likely be wanting to use if you've got them and invested in them, two are blacks, and one of them is just a better bandit to use. Of course if you needed to tank two completed mythril golems it might be useful, but otherwise it seems somewhat redundant.

Originally Posted by Ericridge

Perhaps Lucille an Dragon Rider.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

Lucille also currently can't. Need x1.8 multiplier to defense from passives even with both Adele and Aisha buffing her HP. Once again, need SAW, and that is only 20 s long(

While it's true that Lucille can't, it is actually possible for Elenia to do so. Barely. Her base health is 3150, and base defense is 629 (761), making her EHP 3779 (3911). However, if you have Adele (+10% HP), Aisha (+14% HP), Matsuri (+5% HP, Attack, Def), Echidna (+5% HP, Def), Katie (+2% Def), Len (+5% Def), Elyse (+7% Def), and Alicia (+5% Attack, Def) you end up with a total of +34% HP and +29% Defense. This raises her health to 4221 and, with Prince Buff and big hero title, her defense to 981. This will give her an EHP of 5202, allowing her to successfully tank a hit from a complete mythril golem. All it took was 8 slots for units to boost her stats.

Anyway, I'll see about adding these two to the table in a bit.
Edit: Added them.

I was wondering if there is an up to date list with attack speed for all the units.
If so, can someone leave a link?

Originally Posted by tazzz666

I was wondering if there is an up to date list with attack speed for all the units.
If so, can someone leave a link?

The table for attack speeds here is up to date.

Thanks!!!!

i think something else useful would be all units with atk and defense modifier skills, yurina's skill, for example, causes a 10% atk cut to all enemies, which is 500 atk from 5000 atk enemies for only 4500 atk, which is an easier target to hit. also elyse's(black iris) skill gives everyone double defense(2.5x when awakened) which can let units with high defense get the boost they need to tank it easily.