Thread: Army Template v0.3 (in final appearance).

Since I didn't get much feedback about moving units around. I went ahead and put the list in the way it would look when finally done so...

Here is V0.3 of the updated army list/template

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

gogo spreadsheet!

Looks very nicely done to be honest. Great job.

Hmm, very well put together. The descriptions are simple and concise and adding the relevant classes is also a good touch.

A question though. I believe it was asked previously but what about certain units that could take on other roles? For example, an Armor Breaker you mentioned has Enchanters and Alchemists fitting that role, yet we have Odette who on SAW can lower the enemies' magick resistance by 50%. However, she would normally be in the AoE Rear group. Is there any way to handle this kind of discrepancy?

armor breaker is probably the wrong definition. Defense breakers would be a better title (since both armor and magic resistance are a form of defense) , but that;s just semantics.


That being said , this is very well done lafate. good job

Originally Posted by JSmith12

Hmm, very well put together. The descriptions are simple and concise and adding the relevant classes is also a good touch.

A question though. I believe it was asked previously but what about certain units that could take on other roles? For example, an Armor Breaker you mentioned has Enchanters and Alchemists fitting that role, yet we have Odette who on SAW can lower the enemies' magick resistance by 50%. However, she would normally be in the AoE Rear group. Is there any way to handle this kind of discrepancy?

Well Odette appears in both categories. As well as buffer due to her non-AW skill. How I'm personally handling it is that if I choose a unit for a role I won't generally have the for another role. For example, take Clissa. I have her as one of my three ganking units. She also appears in Anti-Rush and Ramp. In Anti-Rush instead of having Clissa for that I choose a Rogue, Monk, and Ninja instead (.... stares at all the fox spirits... I'll have you one day!), and for Ramp I choose another Valkyrie to take the role. Allowing that Valykrie to become a Geirolul better fitting that role, and Clissa to become a Reginleif to better fulfill the ganking role.

I think there was only one case in which I had a single unit fill multiple positions and that was simply because I didn't see any value in the other options. I believe that was Koyomi as both an Armor Breaker and AoE Rear unit. Which I suppose the example Odette would do that same thing.

Originally Posted by lolix

armor breaker is probably the wrong definition. Defense breakers would be a better title (since both armor and magic resistance are a form of defense), but that;s just semantics.


That being said, this is very well done late. good job

It was originally named Defense Breaker, but that didn't make sense. Since the defensive stat in Aigis in named Defense and not Armor. So instead of it breaking Magical and Physical Defense, it is breaking Magical and Physical Armor. If that makes any sense.

Very well put together Lafate congrats!
There's a tipo under "AoE Rear" the second to last word is "anad" just for you to know. It's just a minor detail of course on a very well made guide

Originally Posted by Lafate

Well Odette appears in both categories. As well as buffer due to her non-AW skill. How I'm personally handling it is that if I choose a unit for a role I won't generally have the for another role. For example, take Clissa. I have her as one of my three ganking units. She also appears in Anti-Rush and Ramp. In Anti-Rush instead of having Clissa for that I choose a Rogue, Monk, and Ninja instead (.... stares at all the fox spirits... I'll have you one day!), and for Ramp I choose another Valkyrie to take the role. Allowing that Valykrie to become a Geirolul better fitting that role, and Clissa to become a Reginleif to better fulfill the ganking role.

I think there was only one case in which I had a single unit fill multiple positions and that was simply because I didn't see any value in the other options. I believe that was Koyomi as both an Armor Breaker and AoE Rear unit. Which I suppose the example Odette would do that same thing.

Aha, alright then. Oh, wait, I just noticed the bottom scroll bar...I am terribly sorry, I should have paid more attention.

awkwardly coughs Well, umm, moving on. This might be a tall order to ask but is their a way to show which unit is best for either role in the case of multiple roles such as Odette? Or should that be left to general discussion and the individual player's play style?

Originally Posted by JSmith12

Aha, alright then. Oh, wait, I just noticed the bottom scroll bar...I am terribly sorry, I should have paid more attention.

awkwardly coughs Well, umm, moving on. This might be a tall order to ask but is their a way to show which unit is best for either role in the case of multiple roles such as Odette? Or should that be left to general discussion and the individual player's play style?

I guess it's better leave that topic to each player as we all have different combinations of specific units and naming a unit THE BEST in X role is plain wrong because every army is different

Originally Posted by Blaxer

I guess it's better leave that topic to each player as we all have different combinations of specific units and naming a unit THE BEST in X role is plain wrong because every army is different

True, that's probably best. I'm up for general discussion of units though especially for new or odd ones.

Originally Posted by Blaxer

Very well put together Lafate congrats!
There's a tipo under "AoE Rear" the second to last word is "anad" just for you to know. It's just a minor detail of course on a very well made guide

There are probably many typo since I haven't proof read yet. Thanks for pointing it out.

Originally Posted by JSmith12

Aha, alright then. Oh, wait, I just noticed the bottom scroll bar...I am terribly sorry, I should have paid more attention.

awkwardly coughs Well, umm, moving on. This might be a tall order to ask but is they're a way to show which unit is best for either role in the case of multiple roles such as Odette? Or should that be left to general discussion and the individual player's play style?

General discussion and individual play style make such things impossible. Maybe in the olden days of Aigis where class heavily dictated what a unit was good at it may have been slightly possible.