Thread: So Aegis is closing down

I think I'm gonna stop paying on FKG - I can't see why this shut down it, so me thinks theres a bigger storm coming....

Originally Posted by sniddy

I think I'm gonna stop paying on FKG - I can't see why this shut down it, so me thinks theres a bigger storm coming....

I share the same concerns now that Aigis shut down and Aigis (it has flaws) is one of the popular games

After X-Overd and the others, I thought Aigis and Flower Knight Girl wouldn't get shut down

Plus, Nutaku is shifting towards western porn games coz I think it's cheaper and they won't get hassle for censorship (though, western games - I don't see them go with any lolis or anything from Kamihime's Hentai shtick)




I think Nutaku is going in the red and they should just focus on a few games instead of opening up so many and then have to close some

It's not a smart business move

It has everything to do with Nutaku. If they allow a game like MWA to close, they are failing their business model (being a content provider-- in fact, they are not providing the content that people paid for). They need to either step up and fix it, or they might as well just close up shop because they cannot do their job.

Of course it is. Gotta force people to play the shitty western games so they don't have to share profit with DMM.

Dropped a few hundred on the game in September, pretty annoyed about this, and really sad that the game is going. It's what brought me to the site in the first place.
Paid via Paypal, so I'm not even sure if I can chargeback as easily as if I'd used a credit card - anyone have any experience with such?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why can't they be surprised if it was unexpected for them? Why assume that they were lying even though they said that they are surprised too. I believe they want this game on this site so it would not make sense for them to initiate the closure.

Nordland giving previews was his/her initiative as far as I understand. The devs need to be contacted about what they were going to release and if they answered then the preview could be done. If they stopped answering or if he/she just didn't have time to contact them you can't fault them for that.

Front page is sorted according to popularity as far as I understand. New games usually stay on top, and MWA jumped to the top and away from the list all the time depending on which events are running.

We don't know what contracts were used in this case. Maybe this was not covered in the contract (you even said it yourself - "almost universally", which means "not always") or maybe it's a misunderstanding or maybe Nutaku broke some rules in the contract and that allowed the other side to announce the termination without the warning. It is also possible that different departments (that are used for making contracts) on Nutaku were notified about this while other departments that control the information weren't - I have no idea how many people are employed by Nutaku, but it is possible when there are even only 2 different people there, maybe even with one if notification mail got lost among the others.

It's also possible that there was an ongoing discussion between two sides, where devs notified Nutaku, Nutaku people responded that they would like to keep the game and proposed some conditions, but devs weren't satisfied and still announced the termination.

Remember that DMM also sells other things related to this game - I think, comix series, so even if the game itself is not profitable they can keep it because of selling extra things that are related to it. On english version there are no extra things, so game has less audience and less things to sell, that means it is much less profitable.

Because they two of the 3 items I listed (lack of front page exposure and lack of Norland) started happening a month ago and were steps that would be taken had they known to cut their losses, even if they had made it public. One or the other I could understand as coincidence, but both? Not credible in these circumstances. Cutting their losses was a decision made by upper management by end of September at the latest.

As for 'near universal' clauses to prevent surprises in contracts, the key word is universal. "Near" was referring to the odd case where circumstances would be out of the scope of ordinary business transactions, the property in question is valuable enough to risk it, or one of the companies doesn't have competent legal assistance. Partnering to bring IP from Japan to the US has been around since the 80s and this part of the contract would have been boilerplate. Aigis was valuable to us players, but not that valuable in financial terms.
So that leaves either Nutaku knew well before today or does not utilize competent legal assistance in the legally thorny area of Intellectual Property. Take your pick as to which you consider worse for a company you would do business with.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

... rip
guess its time to immigrate to dmm servers

You're going to play with the guyz that just ruined our fun (with the help of Nutaku's ineptitude and inefficiency) or is DMM just another platform who has nothing to do with the dev ??
F them all

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nutaku is a content provider. If they cannot handle providing the content they have offered, they have no reason being in business. Yes the DMM devs deserve equal blame, but Nutaku has been happy to take our money too. They are not off the hook for this and deserve scorn as well if they cannot fix it.

Probably Nutaku and DMM are to blame ! not knowing the figure of MWA for Nutaku i'm not sure ; But for DMM it was nothing compared to the rest of their business or worse maybe just a pain in the ass

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It has everything to do with Nutaku. If they allow a game like MWA to close, they are failing their business model (being a content provider-- in fact, they are not providing the content that people paid for). They need to either step up and fix it, or they might as well just close up shop because they cannot do their job.

Whoever made the decision, it's Nutaku's fault for not being able to handle this ! And like many others I don't like the rest of their offer !

Originally Posted by ZedWulf

Of course it is. Gotta force people to play the shitty western games so they don't have to share profit with DMM.

I still have over 40 Sc and tons of other ressources ! and MWA closure will force me to do what ?? I have apparently lost everything including 30 month of my time ! and they will force me to do anything ?? are you crazy my friend ? or just sad like me