Thread: So Aegis is closing down

Looking at the comments I see that almost no one understand the business structure here.

Blaming Nutaku? They are only giving a platform for other people to post their game, they can't make other people continue developing the game.
Blaming DMM? They are only another platform that post similar games, the contract most probably is not with them, but with developers.
Blaming Devs? They need to earn enough money to be able to afford extra resources dedicated to translation of the game into English and to support an outdated version. If they earn less money than they spend on this, it's obvious why they need to close the game.

I say, the players are to blame. Some did pay some money, but most played the game for free and that's why the game was not profitable and devs had to stop it to cut their losses. And now players are blaming everyone else but themself.

The whales was clearly not whaling hard enough. Thus I blame the whales.

The nutaku didn't make enough money because they put Liana in gacha and refused to fix it. Thus I blame Nutaku.

The Aigis Devs didn't fix the idiot move that nutaku did which lowered the amount of money they would've gotten from me monthly, I've been deathly afraid of doing pulls in gacha thanks to Liana's retarded presence. Thus I blame Aigis Devs.

I am flawless. ^_^ <_< >_> v_v

u cannot blame player either.

if u read any research article on gachagame jp user spend a lot more on average.

if 2 different service managed by small devteam only have enough time to devote to 1 service, jp always win. even if ratio of whale to f2p player is same jp has very bigger playerbase due to jp gaming culture

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Looking at the comments I see that almost no one understand the business structure here.

Blaming Nutaku? They are only giving a platform for other people to post their game, they can't make other people continue developing the game.
Blaming DMM? They are only another platform that post similar games, the contract most probably is not with them, but with developers.
Blaming Devs? They need to earn enough money to be able to afford extra resources dedicated to translation of the game into English and to support an outdated version. If they earn less money than they spend on this, it's obvious why they need to close the game.

I say, the players are to blame. Some did pay some money, but most played the game for free and that's why the game was not profitable and devs had to stop it to cut their losses. And now players are blaming everyone else but themself.

This is the most ass backward take to the situation that I had ever seen. "The store is closing, it's the customers fault."
The game is a F2P game. If people are playing it without spending any money, it is there prerogative in terms of their approach to playing a F2P game. Nobody is obligated or required by law to spend money on the F2P game.

Fact is, the game is closing due to a combination of the Devs and Nutaku. Nutaku's mismanagement and refusal to take charge of a game because they gave an absolutely braindead contract to the devs giving them ultimate control, and the Dev's xenophobic attitudes towards the western market demonstrated by their laziness and unwillingness to give the content to be translated.

DMM's the only hand that is unstained in this situation because they were not involved in the contract. (Unless someone is able to give valid proof that DMM influenced Aigis dev's decision to pull the plug.)

@Wankyudo

I sense the salt is strong with you......

I don't think that anon is that far off. While I don't believe it's that clear cut, it usually dose come down to money. Even if you are not required by law to pay, the Aigis team is a business. And a business works to survive and eventually acquire profit for growth.

Just can't really see how you think that Nutaku was in any position to make demands..... And what gave you the idea that xenophobia has any part of this 0_o.

You make it sound like there was some blood feud between them.... I can't honestly see the Aigis developers acting that unprofessionally.

If there is one thing you want to pin entirely on Nutaku, it should be the way they kept us all in the dark.

Finally, i'm free from that curse. I've been trying to quit for months, but the amount of time put into this game prevents me from being a better version of myself. Now i finally can leave this game behind.

really ? because i had 2 accounts , and i wasn't playing more then 30 minutes a day on them...


from all the nutaku games , aigis was one of the least time consuming

Originally Posted by Arkinum

I sense the salt is strong with you......

I don't think that anon is that far off. While I don't believe it's that clear cut, it usually dose come down to money. Even if you are not required by law to pay, the Aigis team is a business. And a business works to survive and eventually acquire profit for growth.

He has a right to be salty, and frankly, we the players (especially the ones who did pay) have no obligation to respect those particular reasons for closure - particularly since DMM players aren't affected by this. I don't know how much money it took to keep MWA running in English, but it's not going to be enough to make me sympathetic in any way to the devs.

Of course, I might just move over to DMM just to alleviate this feeling of pointlessness. Three days ago I had all these plans for Aigis, now I'm having to work up the will to even play, even though by all rights I should just try and enjoy the story maps while I still can...

It don't look like eliont usual grammar, he copied it from comment on Kuremisago blogpost on wiki

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Looking at the comments I see that almost no one understand the business structure here.

Blaming Nutaku? They are only giving a platform for other people to post their game, they can't make other people continue developing the game.
Blaming DMM? They are only another platform that post similar games, the contract most probably is not with them, but with developers.
Blaming Devs? They need to earn enough money to be able to afford extra resources dedicated to translation of the game into English and to support an outdated version. If they earn less money than they spend on this, it's obvious why they need to close the game.

I say, the players are to blame. Some did pay some money, but most played the game for free and that's why the game was not profitable and devs had to stop it to cut their losses. And now players are blaming everyone else but themself.

This has to be one of the most retarded statements that i have seen for along time.
Blaming the players seriously?
Nutaku screwed MWA over with their stupid censoring in the beginning leaving critical units out of the game. Resulting in many people giving up the game
Nutaku and dmm never put much effort in mwa as they could, resulting in weeks with no content, resulting in a steady loss of players.
And after their mismanegement either nutaku or dmm keeps us in the dark dropping that bombshell out of nowhere.

And you want to talk about business and making money?
Nutaku will lose a decent amount of whalers not only from MWA but also other games because they have no trust in nutaku keeping the other japanse game alive.
And if dmm really only wanted to make money, they should try to convince english players to go to dmm site for extra income.
They could look into a option for players to transfer their account for free or for a payment. Or they could try to do some promotions, giving english players a small amount of crystals as welcome gift.