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    I was looking at SAW of Marr on japanese wikia - after first use it changes to her normal skill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davion View Post
    I was looking at SAW of Marr on japanese wikia - after first use it changes to her normal skill?
    http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/...eng_Shui_Users
    Indeed it seems so.

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    Considering Sybilla's AW makes her skill use attacks ranged, is there any real reason to AW her skill? Attack multiplier goes up slightly but you lose the instant kill chance (not really the point though it's nice when it proc's). not sure what her range is without Skill AW, but at the very least it seems there are skills that are clearly better than non-AW (like Marr, Gellius, Olivie, Aisha and Berna, Farne, etc. among others)

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    you mean besides the fact that she hits like a truck at range with magic attacks that aren't reduced in power (like a magic fencer's ranged attack is) ?


    just noticed how her sword is named. Fragarach or The answerer appeared in both Baldur's gate 2(tob) and in temple of elemental evil. In both it was a +4 enchanted long sword (i think it was a bastard sword in ToEV if my memory serves me right)

    that makes her more awsome from the start
    Last edited by lolix; 07-29-2016 at 11:49 AM.

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    Just by Awakening, Sybilla gains range 200 x1.5 powered magic slash on skill (that can instakill). Skill Awakening trades the instakill portion (and 5 seconds more in skill cooldown) for 280 range and x1.7 multiplier.

    Dunno, I think she's good as she is, with less need to prioritize SAW. Better spend the resources on clear upgrades first.

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    clear upgrades ? That doesn't look like a clear upgrade ?


    Let's take nanaly far example , since her skill is one of the more visible. She gets 5 arrows instead of 4. That means that her skill awakening gives her extra 25% damage over her regular skill.

    Now we have sybilla with 70% instead of 50% to damage during skill duration. That's a 40% increase in damage efficiency over her regular skill

    Also 280 range is literally an extra archer....that will hit over 1.5k with magic damage. Hell , a normal archer has 260 range if i recall , so she gets more range then that. The only archers that outrange her are spica during skill , soma during skill , nanaly after awakening (by 10 range) and stray i think , since he gains like 60 god damn range after awakening.

    Edit : forgot lauren during skill
    Last edited by lolix; 07-29-2016 at 01:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    clear upgrades ? That doesn't look like a clear upgrade ?


    Let's take nanaly far example , since her skill is one of the more visible. She gets 5 arrows instead of 4. That means that her skill awakening gives her extra 25% damage over her regular skill.

    Now we have sybilla with 70% instead of 50% to damage during skill duration. That's a 40% increase in damage efficiency over her regular skill

    Also 280 range is literally an extra archer....that will hit over 1.5k with magic damage. Hell , a normal archer has 260 range if i recall , so she gets more range then that. The only archers that outrange her are spica during skill , soma during skill , nanaly after awakening (by 10 range) and stray i think , since he gains like 60 god damn range after awakening.


    Edit : forgot lauren during skill
    Like i said, was not sure what her range is without Skill AW, but since you brought up archer ranges... damn, that IS insane lol. Longer range than most archers, while hitting for magic damage and 70% Attack up? That IS a clear upgrade lol.

    That said, I think there are higher priorities, since her damage is already huge and certain others benefit more (even though it's not reliable, she DOES lose SOMETHING (1HKO potential), while say, Olivie gains attack speed boost while keeping the 100% dodge rate). It does increase her utility since she can be used for high powered, if limited duration, ranged attacks in addition to her traditional roles as duelist and lightning rod.
    Last edited by IvanLedah21; 07-29-2016 at 06:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    Now we have sybilla with 70% instead of 50% to damage during skill duration. That's a 40% increase in damage efficiency over her regular skill
    maths is not 70/50 = 40% increase

    maths is 1.7/1.5 = 13.333% increase

    but extra range make more tactical option

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