Thread: At this point, I am no longer surprised

The nature of this kind of games is to be forced to choose what do you need the most and make small sacrifices: do you prefer to farm that event a little bit more or do monday daily? The easy answer is to pay and be able to do both. That's the easy way out and the way Nutaku and other companies make money out of this model. Put senseless breaks in and the flow of money stops. Player density will decrease as well.

I'm with Lafate here. Breaks, even if sound like a good idea for new players, are not good. They only contribute to slowly destroying the game.

You should be able to focus on priorities and make sacrifices. ¿Do I want more copies of this event unit or silvers? I should sacrifice this daily this week in order to attempt so. It's not that hard. I sacrificed this week's monday daily because I wanted a mincost Azami for one reason only: to be one step closer to being able to complete Dwarfs and Giants 2 (If I don't manage it with 2 assassination ninjas, post-AW Betty should be the final nail in the coffin). I don't even need those stars as I have the final challenge reward (only two stars left in Dwarfs and Giants 2 and one in War of Magic). Truth if that I also have 5 tin cans ready to use on some of my units (but I need plat/black spirits, they will drop).

We all were new players at some point and believe me, I would have preferred nonstop events to those... breaks back in the day *ugh*. Farming Flame Dragon or Dragon Hunting endlessly without Comission Sortie was like cocking a gun to your face. The pain...

I'm just using this week to farm my own experience and level up some male units as well as their affection for the sake of completion.

Originally Posted by Askeladd

Farming Flame Dragon or Dragon Hunting endlessly without Comission Sortie was like cocking a gun to your face. The pain...

This was one of the things that actually almost made me quit.

Time to rant in no particular order (prepare for horrible grammer).

Hmm. There's a daily you would like to do....but an event going on...omg...what do I do? As said before chose 1...or do both. I'm playing on DMM...freemium...was able to get the revival unit (Liana) with 2 days to spare...and monkey girl (just barely)....and still have time to do dailies

But yea. Having constant events is better than no event at all...for both Nutaku and myself. So the shrine has been rotated...with nothing new to test out the units if I'm lucky to get them. Looks like I won't need to buy more SC


Lets see. No new event...guess I won't need to buy SC to try to finish the event (No buffs...no refills)

So whats my point? Constant events good for us. It makes us chose what is important. Your not going to be ale to DO everything. So be happy with what you can get to. Hitting "commission sortie, then going to watch porn can get tedious.

Ok...watching porn doesn't get tedious.

because there is someone here that is pro having no events at all , ever... Yep.

Originally Posted by lolix

because there is someone here that is pro having no events at all , ever... Yep.

Give it a rest.

Originally Posted by gam

Give it a rest.

think : do you think there is someone that doesn't wants events at all? Now look what the people are writing. It's ridiculous how people blow things out of proportion

Originally Posted by lolix

think : do you think there is someone that doesn't wants events at all? Now look what the people are writing. It's ridiculous how people blow things out of proportion

It's not "ridiculously blown out of proportion".

You seem to constantly miss just how bad things were back then, and how adamant we are about not going back to those times.

I don't have any sympathy for the newer players demanding to be spoonfed breaks when the game is faster for them now (which is for their benefit, even if they can't see it as such) than it was back then.

Just to get the message across, here is the timeline for the first few months of the game.
-Launch date: 2/12/2015
-Belinda's event: 3/17 (one month into the game's release)
-Dragon Invasion part 1: 4/3
-Dragon Invasion part 2: 4/28
-Challenge of the Holy Warrior: 5/19
-Karma: 6/16

So with the exception of Dragon Invasion, that's basically one event a month. You want to go back to that shit? Because I sure as hell don't.

eab find my first or second (can't remember which 1 was it) , regarding the breaks topic on the ninja guide , and tell me what exactly have i written in it. I think you even quoted me on it. Now look at what you're speculating that i'm suggesting , and tell me if you see no difference. That being said , i care little about your opinion towards how the game should treat new players. I think i'm right and that's that. Also i'm done dealing with this shit.

I know perfectly well what your argument is, and as I've said time and again, it's bullshit.

Your antagonism for people who prefer constant events over breaks is solely because you want newer players like yourself to not get burned out or gated by their difficulty (good job not addressing my last post explaining how newbies could easily do a few maps of Azami's map and not be completely worse off from it), ignoring how the breaks were always there and you always had a choice to ignore the events/prioritize dailies, or how even newer players are currently feeling the burnout from the lack of meaningful activity.

Disregarding personal opinions or things such as who is right and who is wrong (which I think it's foolish because what we all want is for this game to continue growing instead of falling into the risk of becoming stagnant and dying out, regardless on the opinion of breaks), fact is fact. If Nutaku wants to maintain this game in good health, they must treat its players accordingly. It's not just events or lack of them, it's rewarding them or even giving away some freebies from time to time to keep them content. They were on a good path up until before Christmas. They gave us some SC's during Black Friday and a lot of events almost nonstop with the occasional break here and there. I liked the pacing they had then. Then something that we don't know happened and "this" began. Events are a way to "pressure" people into going p2w, which means a net gain for Nutaku. Many people won't get burned out of the game because of constant breaks with nothing to do but senseless farming. Don't get me wrong, with Comission Sortie nowadays it's not that bad, just more boring. You do your stuff in like 15 minutes and then you can forget about the game for 12 hours or so. However, I prefer boring to the absolute hell that was MWA before Comission Sortie. I skipped about 2-3 weeks of level farming because I was fed up of that. Decided to stop until Comission Sortie was implemented. I'm sure had I continued doing those missions I would've just quit the game.

So the fact is as follows: more events means more situations in which people are tempted to put in a few coins. People enjoy new content. Thats a win/win situation both for the player and the company. However, if the situation remains as it is right now (Break + Gold Rush + Break + Azami + Break) the amount of money Nutaku gets from MWA will diminish and I'm pretty sure some people will end up quitting. I can live and I understand something like a star event/gold rush or one week break per month (gold rushes and star events can be also used as break time) and I think it's the best approach for both Nutaku and the playerbase. I would prefer constant events but I'm fine with that as well.

Oh, and don't forget we are also missing things like a ton of story missions. It's not just events. I'm sure they will release many things at once (new dailies, AW, and story missions) and suddenly we will have a ton of things to do at the same time. I'm pretty sure someone will complain about it. You can never please everyone at the same time after all.

I sincerely hope there is some sort of problem between DMM and Nutaku. Because if this is Nutaku being a bunch of lazy asses I will be pissed, because if I remember correctly there is no tower defense game that follows this model in English (don't know about Korean/Japanese, but they are another target) which allows them to be more lazy if they want to because players only have this tower defense game to play (it's not the same situation as with other games such as Lord of Valkyrie or Pero Pero to say something, which incidentally have a ton of events).

Originally Posted by Eab1990

I know perfectly well what your argument is, and as I've said time and again, it's bullshit.

Your antagonism for people who prefer constant events over breaks is solely because you want newer players like yourself to not get burned out or gated by their difficulty (good job not addressing my last post explaining how newbies could easily do a few maps of Azami's map and not be completely worse off from it), ignoring how the breaks were always there and you always had a choice to ignore the events/prioritize dailies, or how even newer players are currently feeling the burnout from the lack of meaningful activity.

oh please. If they could do the first 3 maps , its good....maybe the 4th one as well if they have a couple cc-ed units. Whatever , you're still missing the point...or trying very hard to not see it. I said COUNTLESS TIMES THAT I DISLIKE THE CURENT STATE OF AFAIRS IF IT CONTINUES IN THE SAME DIRECTION WE HAD FOR THE PAST MONTH.

But having breaks from time to time is still a good ideea. once a month , or after 3-4 events in a row is not too much to ask.


That being said , both my accounts are 160+ atm , and both my core teams are maxed. Sure i've took advantage on the breaks to max other stuff (like betty in preparation for AW) , but my core team is ok. Excepting some male aff items , right now i even have extra resources. Probably far from your reserves , but enough to be able to do at least a couple events without a break. So no , not exactly a newbie (even tho , for someone over 200 , i must seem an amateur). The thing is , i personally don't even need the breaks as much now , but i agree that it would still benefit me if we had some FROM TIME TO TIME , to restock a bit. And because of that , and as a f2p i can see how breaks could benefit newer players. Obviously not as often as we have right now, and especially not after star events or gold rushes , but having a bit of downtime once ever 3-4 events is not THAT much to ask.

Meanwhile....you ? You're a hypocrite. You're claiming that you care about the game and whatnot , but i'm guessing that you're just a bored whale