Thread: Provenance's Beginner's Unit Tier List

Originally Posted by Sasha

While I disagree with a lot of things, they're very small things compared to the flaw that its not clear why you chose things, potential and easyness to obtain aren't meshing well and makes the list confusing for someone new.

This. I already pointed it out on the last page, unfortunately it was ignored. You either have a unit or you don't. If you have a superior unit, you should level her over someone weaker (e.g. Bernice > Leeanne), if you don't then it doesn't matter for you.

Originally Posted by kayfabe

I think it's fair to put her a tier ahead. Soma's affection based attack power lead basically evaporates the moment you hit Daniela's skill whereas Increase Range is very niche. The gap between the two is actually pretty intense if you routinely use 3 archers in your team, something which isn't actually a terrible choice given how easy it is to skill up Daniela once or twice. Increase Attack 1 is pretty common and many of the other units who have it aren't terribly valuable anyway.

The skill has a long wt and ct. During the downtime 30% aff Soma deals more damage than 0% Daniela. Starting with 30% also means it's easier to max her out, which gives a pretty big attack boost. You're rather starved for affection items early on, so I value the headstart Soma gets a fair bit (I also focus on Alissa first over Iris for the same reason). The increase range skill can allow you to start hitting targets earlier, which shouldn't be swept under the rug.
As for skilling her up, while the skill is pretty common, it's still somewhat impractical early on. I'd rather keep the units as CC fodder.

It's true that Daniela is considerably stronger later on, when both are at 100% aff and you SU'd Daniela a few times, but personally I prefer the more friendly early phase Soma's starting aff provides since you get Spica sooner or later anyway to replace your starting silver archer. If you need a third archer for certain maps Soma should still be able to do a decent enough job.
To be fair, I'm a relatively new player, but I haven't regretted going for Soma over Daniela so far.

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Also, Soma is cute and Daniela has cow tits.

I don't think anyone would argue Soma's status as a viable unit--archers in general are some of the most useful units around.

Well, yeah. But I'm discussing Soma vs Daniela as the go-to silver archer for a beginner in the context of a tier list that's trying to help new players get off to a good start.

I just think it's weird that people hate CCing silvers a bit early yet 16 stamina is a bridge too far in order to use a better unit.

Fair enough. I just think it's weird that people say that "Daniela completely outclasses all Archers below Platinum by a wide margin" in a beginner guide.


16 stamina is not the world, but it's not exactly irrelevant either imo. Maybe I'm a little biased because I started on dmm recently where you have events continuously.