Thread: [DMM] Mononofu ~ White Lily Battle Princesses ~

Looking at the daimyo world boss results for today, I think it's striking how there are basically three different games going on. 50th place is 9586, so for simplicity, I'll assume that only 50 people participated at all, as the few people who did less damage than that surely didn't contribute very much. With that caveat, the total score across the entire server was 677161318.

At the top end, there are people trying to get into the top three. Usually finishing in the top 3 gives you a considerably better reward than finishing 4th, typically giving you an extra 5 standard rations or 50 fast battle tickets, and depending on the day, also extra koban, souls, kizuna, or copper. Today, third place took a little over 141 million troops. The top 3 combined for 481113244 points, or a little over 71% of the server-wide total.

The next tier down is people just trying to finish in the top 10 but not aiming for the top 3. 10th place commonly gives you considerably better rewards than 11th place. Today, there were 8 people trying to finish in that tier, with scores ranging from a little over 12 million for 11th place up to a little under 34 million for 4th place. Those 8 people combined for 170504966 points, or a little over 25% of the server-wide total.

Below that is people just trying to attack once to finish in the top 50 and get their 100k copper. 12th place was a little over 4.2 million, and the total score for everyone not in the top 11 was 25543108, or under 4% of the server total. If you add the scores of everyone not in the top 11 and attribute that to a single person, that would have been good for 7th place today. If you add the scores of everyone not in the top 3 and attribute that to a single person, it would have been good for first place, but by less than 1 million points.

Sometimes when Temp goes nuts running up an enormous score, he might come away with more points than the entire rest of the server added together. But one person or a few people running up huge scores at the top is what opens up the later convoys for everyone. I think it's interesting that the world bosses are built to rely so heavily on that.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

You get just one of the skills, but you get to pick which one.

Well, with that kind of gain, why is it only limited to SR rated generals and above? If they didn't, at least there could be some point to keeping C and UC cards other than immediately just chucking them over to cards you don't even want to level up anymore since, at some point, your main group would already be stuck at a level limit.

I think you only need 1 C and 2 UC for Campaign Mission Purposes.

Man, 6-4 is a tough. Goddamn Corsair.

Originally Posted by coures

Well, with that kind of gain, why is it only limited to SR rated generals and above? If they didn't, at least there could be some point to keeping C and UC cards other than immediately just chucking them over to cards you don't even want to level up anymore since, at some point, your main group would already be stuck at a level limit.

I'm not sure if you mean have an R general inherit skills or have other generals inherit an R general's skills. Either way, my answer is the same: why would you want to? Every single R general in the game is terrible. Not a single one has a power, leadership, or intelligence rating above 70. Now that I look through the skills more carefully, there are a handful that aren't terrible. But that's not what you want to spend time and resources leveling up.

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Uy

I think you only need 1 C and 2 UC for Campaign Mission Purposes.

Man, 6-4 is a tough. Goddamn Corsair.

You're on 6-4 now? I think you mean 5-4. 6-4 does start with an all corsair enemy team, but people who can get to that opponent generally clear it just fine.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

I'm not sure if you mean have an R general inherit skills or have other generals inherit an R general's skills. Either way, my answer is the same: why would you want to? Every single R general in the game is terrible. Not a single one has a power, leadership, or intelligence rating above 70. Now that I look through the skills more carefully, there are a handful that aren't terrible. But that's not what you want to spend time and resources leveling up.

I mean, why is it only possible to sacrifice SR and above to inherit their skills. Why not use lower ranked generals as well? I kinda thought they placed it as strictly SR and above because we get to inherit all of their skills instead of 1.

Also, for campaign purposes, it would have been nice if lower ranked cards could inherit as well. I want to have my 1 C and 2 UC generals to at least help me instead of just being a useless flop when I try to gain some stars. Lvl. 55 and all the equips and they still suck balls.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

You're on 6-4 now? I think you mean 5-4. 6-4 does start with an all corsair enemy team, but people who can get to that opponent generally clear it just fine.

Could be that he rushed from the 5th campaign. I rushed a campaign once and wasn't able to defeat the first quest on the next campaign.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

You're on 6-4 now? I think you mean 5-4. 6-4 does start with an all corsair enemy team, but people who can get to that opponent generally clear it just fine.

Opps! 6-2. (Main Force (Lv50)(4th Yellow Infantry Unit)) My bad. Guess i need to improve some more.

Originally Posted by coures

Could be that he rushed from the 5th campaign. I rushed a campaign once and wasn't able to defeat the first quest on the next campaign.

I guess I did but since I have a hard time passing that unit on 6-2. I might as well go back and get all 3 stars that I missed.

Also, I kinda recall (or not) that there's another Hidden Mission Campaign. Where is that?

Ok, now I have myself Lv. 55 Cyclops. Should I inherit her to Master Strategist or I'll replace her with SSR Mori Motonari? Also, if I inherit SSR Mori Motonari's Sengoku Number One skill to Master Strategist, will it stack?

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Uy

Opps! 6-2. (Main Force (Lv50)(4th Yellow Infantry Unit)) My bad. Guess i need to improve some more.

Yeah, that one is problematic. Myself, I just hit a wall at 8th unit on 6-2. At least I was able to push on story chapters a little, since there is no event now. (I gave up thanksgiving one)

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Uy

Opps! 6-2. (Main Force (Lv50)(4th Yellow Infantry Unit)) My bad. Guess i need to improve some more.



I guess I did but since I have a hard time passing that unit on 6-2. I might as well go back and get all 3 stars that I missed.

Also, I kinda recall (or not) that there's another Hidden Mission Campaign. Where is that?

Ok, now I have myself Lv. 55 Cyclops. Should I inherit her to Master Strategist or I'll replace her with SSR Mori Motonari? Also, if I inherit SSR Mori Motonari's Sengoku Number One skill to Master Strategist, will it stack?

The reason I said I thought you were on 5-4 is that I saw that you were the most recent person to have beaten several maps on 5-4, but didn't finish the whole map. It looks like you also missed 5-5 entirely, which is the alternate history one. I don't know if you have to clear 5-4 entirely to unlock it or what, but you missed an entire map.

Originally Posted by Machcio

Yeah, that one is problematic. Myself, I just hit a wall at 8th unit on 6-2. At least I was able to push on story chapters a little, since there is no event now. (I gave up thanksgiving one)

I tried challenging the map to see what it was. Nothing fancy there. You just need to stack more buffs and maybe forge up gear or get higher rank lab skills.

You're at about 5k troops per general, which really isn't much. I see a Takeda Shingen of Kai's Koyo Gunkan skill, and a Hatazirushi, but that's all you've got for team buffs. Jeffrey Uy adds an Usami Sadamitsu's Echigo Style Strategy as another team buff, and is around 5.5k troops per general.

Top tier players are generally around 8k troops per general now. I hope you're forging up your accessories to high level, as that's the most important gear piece. I also hope you've got your lab skill "legion" up, as that's the most important one. I'm guessing that you're missing one or both of those, and that's why your troop count is low.