Thread: [DMM] Mononofu ~ White Lily Battle Princesses ~

Originally Posted by Astasia

Personally I find the entire archer troop set and all branches to be fairly crap. I stopped using any of them. Armor basically ruins the entire mechanic. Each hit is reduced a lot more by armor than the single larger hits from other classes, and even with armor penetration it just doesn't work well I found. I switched my Marksmen out for some Crimson Riders and that was massively more effective on most maps. Even in situations where the archers do a decent amount of damage, having other class types with them sort of messes with their thing, the archers weaken something then the other troops overkill it and waste a lot of potential damage. I feel like archers would work well in full teams of archers designed for quickly grinding easier/soft maps, but I feel like for progressing or doing difficult content they suck. That might just be me though, maybe other people are finding them more useful.

You are not that wrong, you are just missing one thing. Several characters have damage proc (Like SSR Kuroda Kanbei, SR Honganji "Voodoo is fucking OP in world boss" Kennyo and several other). These damage proc are not reduced by the damage multiplier of archer. Meaning if you use them in an artillery unit, you will do this damage proc x5 nearly each time, and it will do a fucking huge dps, even if the base damage is crap.

SSR Date Masamune's skill is different than the description (on JP too). It seems to RNG up to 2.5x damage, with nothing stacking between turns. If you include the character that has a synergy with her, you get a better chance of higher damage, but still max 2.5x. My other characters do 500-600 damage, but Date can do over 1000 easily.

/edit Actually the skill description isn't wrong, it's just misleading. "Chance to continuously stack" means it'll try to stack up to 6 times in the same turn, then next turn it'll reset to 0 and try to stack 6 times again. So you can get +25% damage then fail or roll +25 +25 +25 +25 +25 +25 % = 2.5x in one turn.

Discord link is dead

PS: anyone got any suggestion on earning gold?
I'm drying up badly and can't seem to find a decent source/convoy to hit to stock up.

Originally Posted by White935

Discord link is dead

PS: anyone got any suggestion on earning gold?
I'm drying up badly and can't seem to find a decent source/convoy to hit to stock up.

The best one I've found, and I think was mentioned earlier in the thread, is the first battle of the Starter Dungeon. Yes, it's a 10K gold expenditure in the Shop to open the dungeon, but you make that up in just one round. Each time you fight the battle gets you between 10 and 50K gold, and you can do it up to 50 times per day.

I'm still hoarding gold like a crazy person, though. Gotta get those level 35-in-a-week-castle prizes.

Originally Posted by Mimea

The best one I've found, and I think was mentioned earlier in the thread, is the first battle of the Starter Dungeon. Yes, it's a 10K gold expenditure in the Shop to open the dungeon, but you make that up in just one round. Each time you fight the battle gets you between 10 and 50K gold, and you can do it up to 50 times per day.

I'm still hoarding gold like a crazy person, though. Gotta get those level 35-in-a-week-castle prizes.

Gold digging all day long eh ? :P i think i'll join ya, want caste level 35 too :P

Is it worth to play Masamune Date SSR and Katakura Kojuuro SR combo ? Now I have The Tiger of Kai UR, Uesugi Kenshin SSR, Date Masamune SSR, Oda Nobunaga SSR and Toyotomi Hideyoshi SSR. Must i play all 5 of them in 1 formation or better use Katakura instead of someone ?

Pick Katakura Kojuuro, gives her the personnal guard class (or knight if you use the other part of classes tree), and you get yourself a fucking unkillable frontline who is buffing your masamune date. You need one, and she will do that much better than any other character you have (among the SSR/UR listed). Just remove Toyotomi Hideyoshi, I think she is the most dispensable character you have.

I saw several people using Nao Kagetsuna as a tank, but Katakura Kojuuro is much better.

Originally Posted by Keyen

Pick Katakura Kojuuro, gives her the personnal guard class (or knight if you use the other part of classes tree), and you get yourself a fucking unkillable frontline who is buffing your masamune date. You need one, and she will do that much better than any other character you have (among the SSR/UR listed). Just remove Toyotomi Hideyoshi, I think she is the most dispensable character you have.

I saw several people using Nao Kagetsuna as a tank, but Katakura Kojuuro is much better.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you.

I'd drop Nobunaga actually, the Tiger of Kai wants to be on the left side of the Unit tree (Light Cavalry, either Crimson or Black riders). Nobunaga wants to be on the right side (Musketeers and Artillery). You can't buff both sides at once (Temple or Church), so let your UR decide which branch you're on.

That's true as well.

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C/P something I wrote on another forum, if you had the same question about "what formation should I use":

When you are using a formation, you need to consider 4 things:
-The stats, obviously, but also...
-How vulnerable you are to AOE (Little spreadsheet about the vulnerability of each formation at the first turn of battle)
-How many units you can protect with one strong tank (for instance, Bison formation doesn't allow a tank to protect 2 others units behind him)
-And how well you can focus. It's related to the previous point, Bison can't use 3 characters to focus one unit.


Basically, I will go Crane, because I think the speed is extremly important (Enemies are usually faster, so it's like getting a free turn, much better any other stats), the vulnerability to aoe is the lowest with the python, and I can protect up to 2 units with my main tank.