Thread: [DMM] Mononofu ~ White Lily Battle Princesses ~

Originally Posted by Astasia

Also make sure you have tiger of kai as like a crimson rider troop, I've seen other people using her in replays and she usually one-shots most things. Maybe look at troops that boost her damage even more, like the SR that throws dice for a 8% team damage boost. Seems to be a popular combo..

Is going Crimson Rider really a good idea though? I feel like Black Rider benefits her more overall.

Originally Posted by Knave

For my own opinion, that team seems very unbalanced, little or no defense so you are very dependent on grinding exp cards and orange gear to max damage output to breakthrough the new chapters. I have found that rarity is less important than general's abilities and team synergy. Using the Hohjo, Date or Tokugawa teams is going to make your life easier than using 4 or 5 UR and SSR beatsticks.

Until now I'm not having any problem but I think my counter will be damage reflection... I will just kill myself. Do you know any japanese tierlist or posts with units synergy?

Originally Posted by Nitty

I looked at the JPN wiki.

SSR with an event UR version

Thanks, she is so cute hahaha xD

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Is going Crimson Rider really a good idea though? I feel like Black Rider benefits her more overall.

My Tiger of Kai does like he says xD It one shots anything in the way. I have two crimson riders, Tiger Shingen and Dragon Kenshin and they one-hit the frontline. But sometimes that means killing themselves

What I'm saying is she would probably one shot it even if she wasn't a crimson rider. Her skill makes her damage gamebreaking. So instead of spending the first turn to 1shot something you already would even without going Crimson Rider (CR), why not go Black Rider (BR) and make it 1 turn to 1 shot 2 enemies or nearly kill 2 enemies instead?

CR's skill only works on the first turn and the additional bonus only works on enemy archers, which you're unlikely to hit as they're generally placed behind units. Unless Crimson Rider can bypass front line defense? BR on the other hand becomes a archer and can attack any unit.

In terms of calculations, in regular form, CR does 125% dmg on first turn (145% on archers) then reverts back to 100%. BR does 60% x 2 forever. 5% less but then you compare their elite forms it becomes 135% (165% archers) vs 80% x 2, 25% more for BR on all but archers and not just a single turn. Let's not forget higher base SPD and ATK, with SPD being extremely important as without it being higher than the enemy, you won't even be doing 350% damage in the first place.

So unless there's a hidden factor I'm not seeing, more scenarios seem to fall towards the advantage of Tiger Kai going BR.

Depends on where things end up late game. On maps I'm pushing right now Tiger can't 1-shot everything as Crimson, but there's still room to grow.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Is going Crimson Rider really a good idea though? I feel like Black Rider benefits her more overall.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

What I'm saying is she would probably one shot it even if she wasn't a crimson rider. Her skill makes her damage gamebreaking. So instead of spending the first turn to 1shot something you already would even without going Crimson Rider (CR), why not go Black Rider (BR) and make it 1 turn to 1 shot 2 enemies or nearly kill 2 enemies instead?

CR's skill only works on the first turn and the additional bonus only works on enemy archers, which you're unlikely to hit as they're generally placed behind units. Unless Crimson Rider can bypass front line defense? BR on the other hand becomes a archer and can attack any unit.

In terms of calculations, in regular form, CR does 125% dmg on first turn (145% on archers) then reverts back to 100%. BR does 60% x 2 forever. 5% less but then you compare their elite forms it becomes 135% (165% archers) vs 80% x 2, 25% more for BR on all but archers and not just a single turn. Let's not forget higher base SPD and ATK, with SPD being extremely important as without it being higher than the enemy, you won't even be doing 350% damage in the first place.

So unless there's a hidden factor I'm not seeing, more scenarios seem to fall towards the advantage of Tiger Kai going BR.

It makes sense, you're right. I'm going to change it later. Also I'm thinking of this squad:

Tiger Shingen(level 35): Black Rider
Tadakatsu Honda(level 55): Commando Trooper
Date Masamune(level 40): Trooper. For the extra defense, tho her second skill NEVER procs, I'm thinking of replacing her for a Heavy Knight that synergizes with Takeda
Dragon Kenshin(Level 35): Crimson Rider. I'll just keep her like that to help cleaning the frontline as soon as possible, also it synergizes with her first skill.
Luís Fróis(Level 40) Nun, of course.


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Now an important question, the tournament registration is about to end... Here it says to pay 50 koban to submit my team... Is it mistranslated? Is it to pay 50 kobans to Change the Team and it's already registered? I didn't pay anything yet but I'm afraid of being out of the tournament. Do I need to pay to submit the team?

Originally Posted by Nitty

Depends on where things end up late game. On maps I'm pushing right now Tiger can't 1-shot everything as Crimson, but there's still room to grow.

I feel like that's even less of a reason to go Crimson. The main purpose of CR is to kill an enemy on the first turn, probably to reduce the stress of 4~5 strong enemies. But if you can't even kill the target in 1 turn in the first place, then it loses even more purpose as it loses its damage boost after that first turn. Dragging out a fight will only add onto how much more damage a BR does over a CR.

Can anyone answer about the event, please? The time is running out

No idea on the tournament, sorry. I would guess it's to change team, but that's only a guess.

Talking about the first evolution, if it takes 200% damage to kill something, a BR would take 4 turns and a CR would take 2. I would go for the CR. Also, how random is the targetting on BR?

I just pulled Kuroda Kanbei from the gacha and was reviewing her skills. I think shock trooper would work best with the lifesteal. Does anyone know the place to get that upgrade?

Originally Posted by Knave

I just pulled Kuroda Kanbei from the gacha and was reviewing her skills. I think shock trooper would work best with the lifesteal. Does anyone know the place to get that upgrade?

Chapter 1 Hidden Dungeon if you have it or Chapter 2, Ambushing Inabayama Castle, one of the red soldiers stage drops it.