Thread: [DMM] Mononofu ~ White Lily Battle Princesses ~

Anyone know the drop rate for the dungeon scroll in the Oda battle? I have done it like 15 times and have only gotten coins. getting aggravated at this point.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

What I'm saying is she would probably one shot it even if she wasn't a crimson rider. Her skill makes her damage gamebreaking. So instead of spending the first turn to 1shot something you already would even without going Crimson Rider (CR), why not go Black Rider (BR) and make it 1 turn to 1 shot 2 enemies or nearly kill 2 enemies instead?

CR's skill only works on the first turn and the additional bonus only works on enemy archers, which you're unlikely to hit as they're generally placed behind units. Unless Crimson Rider can bypass front line defense? BR on the other hand becomes a archer and can attack any unit.

In terms of calculations, in regular form, CR does 125% dmg on first turn (145% on archers) then reverts back to 100%. BR does 60% x 2 forever. 5% less but then you compare their elite forms it becomes 135% (165% archers) vs 80% x 2, 25% more for BR on all but archers and not just a single turn. Let's not forget higher base SPD and ATK, with SPD being extremely important as without it being higher than the enemy, you won't even be doing 350% damage in the first place.

So unless there's a hidden factor I'm not seeing, more scenarios seem to fall towards the advantage of Tiger Kai going BR.

There's two things.

Archer damage is usually pretty crippled by defense, damage is being split and basically getting hit twice by defense checks. From what I can tell defense is a percentage based reduction based on the difference between the attack value and defense value. IE with 1000 attack against 1000 defense it might be like 500 damage done, with 1250 attack and 1000 defense it might be closer to 800 damage done, and with 750 attack against 1000 defense it might be something like 200 damage done. I haven't done enough testing to figure out the formula so those numbers are just made up, but that's the general trend I have noticed with damage. It makes archers in general pretty terrible unless the unit has unique skills that greatly benefit them.

The second thing, is that I'm noticing the game likes to throw cannons at you in the hardest content. Just nothing but 4-5 cannons with stupidly OP stats that hit all of your units every turn. It's just begging to be countered with Crimson Riders.

Tiger of Kai can absolutely make Black Rider "work" in most content though, it has a high enough attack that damage isn't reduced too much usually, and against easier stuff it will be two one-shots on the first turn which is nice, against harder content though it wont be close to one-shots. I've seen a few people running Black Riders in replays on the harder content, it works, but doesn't seem nearly as OP as the Crimson Riders. I don't have the unit though so again I'm just basing it off a bunch of replays I've seen.

Originally Posted by Knave

Anyone know the drop rate for the dungeon scroll in the Oda battle? I have done it like 15 times and have only gotten coins. getting aggravated at this point.

I did the stage 50 times the other day and got 2 scrolls and 1 weapon.

Quick question for the newbie support bag how long was it good for mine vanished at lvl 10? Heard on some discord channels they said it was lvl 35 not sure if thats true or not.

So wait, if the party's defense is the actual defense team then I should be be equipping the offensive team's armor solely for whatever skill is listed on it?

And skills that boost defense are really boosting the defense team? Why bother listing defense of the offensive team during battle?

Sorry for the dumb questions. I feel like I got something wrong here.

After some tests after no response asking the same question, it seems the defense team is simply the team other players fight in ranked matches. Nothing to do with gaining bonus defense or whatever. So just make sure to swap your main team to defense before you log off if you don't have a proper team for it. Unless you don't care then do whatever.

I have two SSR evolve cards and i'm not sure in what girls use them. my current team is Oda Nobunaga, Kuroda Kanbei , Mori Motonari, Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Kuroda and Mori seems to hit harder than the rest, also if any of you has Mori and is using archers troops , is worth to change her troops to archer in order to use his third skill? My Mori has been level 30 for awhile but i've been reluctant to change her from cavalry to archer as it's seems like archers are pretty weak overall.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have two SSR evolve cards and i'm not sure in what girls use them. my current team is Oda Nobunaga, Kuroda Kanbei , Mori Motonari, Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Kuroda and Mori seems to hit harder than the rest, also if any of you has Mori and is using archers troops , is worth to change her troops to archer in order to use his third skill? My Mori has been level 30 for awhile but i've been reluctant to change her from cavalry to archer as it's seems like archers are pretty weak overall.

how the hell did you get them O_O i want them

Originally Posted by Astasia

There's two things.
The second thing, is that I'm noticing the game likes to throw cannons at you in the hardest content. Just nothing but 4-5 cannons with stupidly OP stats that hit all of your units every turn. It's just begging to be countered with Crimson Riders.

Tiger of Kai can absolutely make Black Rider "work" in most content though, it has a high enough attack that damage isn't reduced too much usually, and against easier stuff it will be two one-shots on the first turn which is nice, against harder content though it wont be close to one-shots. I've seen a few people running Black Riders in replays on the harder content, it works, but doesn't seem nearly as OP as the Crimson Riders. I don't have the unit though so again I'm just basing it off a bunch of replays I've seen.

I did the stage 50 times the other day and got 2 scrolls and 1 weapon.

The Archers, even my Tiger Shingen, only works in its Elite form. And even so I prefer cannons. Archers have no place in the game right now. Why attacking 2~3 if you can attack 5?

About the hard stages with cannons, use Heavy Knights to counter. I have 4 Heavy Knights and they take almost no damage. AoE Reduction skills



Does anybody know when/how can we unlock artifacts?
Oh... It's probably some level of the port which I've been neglecting until now...

Is there any stage where one can farm class changes ?

hahah just spent 3000 kobans (didn't buy any, got them from easter chest LOL and farm) on that new event buying Large Chests... I was trying to go for UR and armor but ALL my tries gave me 2 Platinum tickets that gave me SR units hahahahahah dafuq

Originally Posted by Yuki

Is there any stage where one can farm class changes ?

Several. But the best one is CH2 - Alternate History - Horn of Counter Attack. All the scrolls can be found there, to the third class, not the Elite.