Thread: [DMM] Mononofu ~ White Lily Battle Princesses ~

That copper dungeon reminded me of a previous event but I can't remember what event that was hahaha. That was the event that I farmed for the two armors. But currently copper dungeon is not a good event for me because its not worth the copper that you will be getting in exchange for troop loss. All the stages have 5 corsairs each wth. Better to farm at Frosty Realm or Vulture event than Copper Dungeon.

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

That copper dungeon reminded me of a previous event but I can't remember what event that was hahaha. That was the event that I farmed for the two armors. But currently copper dungeon is not a good event for me because its not worth the copper that you will be getting in exchange for troop loss. All the stages have 5 corsairs each wth. Better to farm at Frosty Realm or Vulture event than Copper Dungeon.

Maybe you don't want to farm the end opponents in the copper dungeon, but the first five or so are very weak and still give good copper.

In my case, I don't want to farm the copper dungeon because the soul ticket event is up, which also gives pretty good copper. And because I don't have all that much need for copper anymore, as the main gear that I use a lot has already been forged to the level cap of 65.

Hi there, i've been playing this game for 3 months and i'm leveling up my SR gens but i wonder if i'm leveling up the good ones. I don't fully understand the mechanics of this game yet and me bein french doesn't help.
So is anyone have a list of the best SR generals that are worth it. Any help will be appreciated.

That would be great !

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi there, i've been playing this game for 3 months and i'm leveling up my SR gens but i wonder if i'm leveling up the good ones. I don't fully understand the mechanics of this game yet and me bein french doesn't help.
So is anyone have a list of the best SR generals that are worth it. Any help will be appreciated.

SR generals are, for the most part, a stopgap until you can get the SSR and UR generals that you really want. The only SR general that I've seen other players use much at endgame is Naoe Kagetsuna, and that's usually an SR Naoe Kagetsuna with another inherited SR Naoe Kagetsuna for huge regen. One other SR general worth mentioning is Usami Sadamitsu, for her skill to reduce the defense of all opposing units by 11%.

Mostly you want to focus early on on SR generals who have a useful skill to inherit, so that you can still get some use out of them for a while after you've got SSR generals. Healing skills remain useful for a long time, and I also like the +15% attack and defense skills.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

SR generals are, for the most part, a stopgap until you can get the SSR and UR generals that you really want. The only SR general that I've seen other players use much at endgame is Naoe Kagetsuna, and that's usually an SR Naoe Kagetsuna with another inherited SR Naoe Kagetsuna for huge regen. One other SR general worth mentioning is Usami Sadamitsu, for her skill to reduce the defense of all opposing units by 11%.

Mostly you want to focus early on on SR generals who have a useful skill to inherit, so that you can still get some use out of them for a while after you've got SSR generals. Healing skills remain useful for a long time, and I also like the +15% attack and defense skills.

*facepalm* I didn't know Naoe Kagetsuna is really popular and all I did was sacrifice extra. Darn, I'm such a noob. Now, I learn something new from the Master. ^_^

I'll save Nene SR or Naoe Kagetsuna SR / SSR and inherent same copy. (I need Hideyoshi for Nene though). BTW, is +SPD still ok?

Originally Posted by Semaphore

For equipment, you generally have to accept that the stuff you forge up for a while to get to the endgame won't be the same equipment that you want to keep using in the endgame.

For weapons, I favor water gun and cursed nameless sword. Unfortunately for you, the water gun is from an event that has come and gone (though it will probably come again), while the cursed nameless sword comes from farming for cursed shards in 6-4. Other than that, you mostly want various event weapons that come and go.

For armors, among the easy to get ones, I favor the golden armor that drops in 5-3. Ultimate western armor is probably my favorite among the armors I've got, but that's also from an event that has come and gone. I use an original god of wind armor to change my generals' attack order, but that's kind of a gadget armor that you don't need more than one of. I also have a cursed nameless armor, which also comes from farming 6-4 and is useful mainly to ensure that the abilities on the cursed nameless sword will take effect. I've been leveling up an original nioh's armor (daily world boss, convoy 2-3) lately because it seems like it might be useful in pvp.

For accessories, a hatazirushi for your team leader is the indispensable one, and came from an event that just ended. I got two of them, so that my defense team could have one, too. I also have a Luis' traveler diary from an event. Among the easy to get accessories, zhan guo ce from level 5-4 is my favorite.

You can't get EVO emblem shard 3 or EVO card catalog volume 2. There was an event that had a small chance of dropping the EVO emblem shard 3, but it's over. And I only got one from the event, anyway. I don't think that the EVO card catalog volume 2 has ever been in the game, unless you can get it at an infinitesimal probability from the port or something like that.

Wow... So many events that I missed or failed to get. Oh well, I'll just wait for the next event. But first I need to bulk out.

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Uy

*facepalm* I didn't know Naoe Kagetsuna is really popular and all I did was sacrifice extra. Darn, I'm such a noob. Now, I learn something new from the Master. ^_^

I'll save Nene SR or Naoe Kagetsuna SR / SSR and inherent same copy. (I need Hideyoshi for Nene though). BTW, is +SPD still ok?

Wow... So many events that I missed or failed to get. Oh well, I'll just wait for the next event. But first I need to bulk out.

There have been lots of events, and many of the event items are useless. Events tend to repeat after a while, probably because it's less work to re-run an old event than to create a new one.

I wouldn't call SR Naoe Kagetsuna "really popular". She's perhaps important to a regeneration heavy build, and the only SR general that gets used much at endgame. But she's hardly essential, and she's never been a regular part of my team.

Personally, I build heavily for speed and damage. If someone else builds heavily for speed and damage, I'll probably have more speed and more damage and win. Aargaez is the most notable other high speed, high damage player, though it is what a lot of players try for to some degree, perhaps partially because it clears most PVE content the fastest.

In PVP, some people build instead for reflect damage. Rimuru is perhaps the purest reflect damage build among strong players, though EarthCrimson and Temp lean pretty heavily in that direction, too. I tend to lose to a strong reflect-heavy player, as I might hit for 20k troops, which instant-kills my general from reflect damage, while their general survives because of Takenaka Hanbei or some such.

Reflect-heavy builds are vulnerable to builds that go very heavy on regeneration or lifesteal with more moderate damage. A heavy reflect damage build relies on killing high damage players with reflect damage, but the reflect damage doesn't kill a moderate damage player who can regenerate to compensate for the reflect damage. That's how TruelyNice beat Temp in the finals of the daimyo tournament two weeks ago.

But someone building too heavily for regeneration and lifesteal is open to being destroyed by a high speed, high damage build. Regeneration and lifesteal don't help if you're getting one-shotted. That's why last week, even though TruelyNice was the defending daimyo, I wiped out his entire team in the tournament before he even got to attack.

There is some degree of rock/paper/scissors to it, and winning daimyo depends substantially on luck of drawing opponents you match up well against while avoiding the ones you don't.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

There have been lots of events, and many of the event items are useless. Events tend to repeat after a while, probably because it's less work to re-run an old event than to create a new one.

I wouldn't call SR Naoe Kagetsuna "really popular". She's perhaps important to a regeneration heavy build, and the only SR general that gets used much at endgame. But she's hardly essential, and she's never been a regular part of my team.

Personally, I build heavily for speed and damage. If someone else builds heavily for speed and damage, I'll probably have more speed and more damage and win. Aargaez is the most notable other high speed, high damage player, though it is what a lot of players try for to some degree, perhaps partially because it clears most PVE content the fastest.

In PVP, some people build instead for reflect damage. Rimuru is perhaps the purest reflect damage build among strong players, though EarthCrimson and Temp lean pretty heavily in that direction, too. I tend to lose to a strong reflect-heavy player, as I might hit for 20k troops, which instant-kills my general from reflect damage, while their general survives because of Takenaka Hanbei or some such.

Reflect-heavy builds are vulnerable to builds that go very heavy on regeneration or lifesteal with more moderate damage. A heavy reflect damage build relies on killing high damage players with reflect damage, but the reflect damage doesn't kill a moderate damage player who can regenerate to compensate for the reflect damage. That's how TruelyNice beat Temp in the finals of the daimyo tournament two weeks ago.

But someone building too heavily for regeneration and lifesteal is open to being destroyed by a high speed, high damage build. Regeneration and lifesteal don't help if you're getting one-shotted. That's why last week, even though TruelyNice was the defending daimyo, I wiped out his entire team in the tournament before he even got to attack.

There is some degree of rock/paper/scissors to it, and winning daimyo depends substantially on luck of drawing opponents you match up well against while avoiding the ones you don't.

It does look like Rock/Paper/Scissor. I wonder what good build suits me. Oh well, time will tell. Thanks for the info, Master Semaphore *bows*

Guess I need to hunt gets some regen then. Thanks again.

Edit: Tried to look for Mononofu wikia / guide but seem to be incomplete. I found this item at Arena and curious what this Bullhorn Helmet do.

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Uy

Wow... So many events that I missed or failed to get. Oh well, I'll just wait for the next event. But first I need to bulk out.

You were certainly there for the hatazirushi event, as you were on my friends list well before the event started. It's possible that you weren't yet strong enough to beat the opponents that drop it. It's also decently likely that you could have gotten the item but didn't realize that it was a really nice item and should have been your top priority in what to do while playing during the event until you got one.

There were two opponents that could drop it, with one substantially stronger than the other, and you could only beat them each 30 times per day. The hatazirushi had a drop rate of about 0.5%, so it could easily take several days to get one. But there are far more opponents that you can fight each day than you actually have time to fight, so you have to find the best ones.

In the case of the hatazirushi, I looked it up on the Japanese wiki, which is linked at the start of this thread. I don't know Japanese, and Google translate often comes out fairly garbled. But while you can't count on the name on the Japanese wiki matching the English version, the icons are always identical. From the item effects on the Japanese wiki, it looked like the item (which Google translates as something like "banner flag") might be really nice, so I fought the opponents that drop it until I got one.

Originally Posted by Semaphore

You were certainly there for the hatazirushi event, as you were on my friends list well before the event started. It's possible that you weren't yet strong enough to beat the opponents that drop it. It's also decently likely that you could have gotten the item but didn't realize that it was a really nice item and should have been your top priority in what to do while playing during the event until you got one.

There were two opponents that could drop it, with one substantially stronger than the other, and you could only beat them each 30 times per day. The hatazirushi had a drop rate of about 0.5%, so it could easily take several days to get one. But there are far more opponents that you can fight each day than you actually have time to fight, so you have to find the best ones.

In the case of the hatazirushi, I looked it up on the Japanese wiki, which is linked at the start of this thread. I don't know Japanese, and Google translate often comes out fairly garbled. But while you can't count on the name on the Japanese wiki matching the English version, the icons are always identical. From the item effects on the Japanese wiki, it looked like the item (which Google translates as something like "banner flag") might be really nice, so I fought the opponents that drop it until I got one.

Yeah pretty much a weakling. At least you notice me during that event. I also found the site you mention. Good info and I'm surprised there LR rarity. LOL.