Thread: Sengoku Providence announced!

Nice I can use 1* to increase Luk on the 5* I manage to make. This way I can use all surplus of 1* to increase the Luk of my 5*, and when re-issues will came - get what I need to evolve her to 6*. Not so bad, not so bad. Well worst case scenario I would have a high Luk 1* waiting for reissues alongside the 5*.

Thou could any dev/staff poke here and give us some time frame how long it will be before the reissue event(s) will happen. And maybe how the DMM style reissue works.

Since a Nutaku employee monitors this thread, I guess I'll post my exit survey here.

I am a baby-whale of sorts who spent about $300-400 on this game. So I wasn't too concerned with how much of the game was free and how much of it was pay. Instead, the reason I left was because the obligation of guild wars ended up making the game feel like a second job, with four hours a day on guild wars combined with the extra amount of time you need to spend preparing for it in advance (freeing up inventory slots because odds are you will accumulate quite a few senki while replenishing Battle Force during Guild Wars, for example). And thus my reason for leaving the game.

Of course, I am likely not representative of every paying customer. Maybe others can just play the game and ignore guild wars. I myself couldn't put up with the guilt of knowing I was taking up 1/20th of the guild's roster and not contributing to my fullest, nor could I go guildless instead because I wanted those medal-only senki. In the end, with guild wars destroying my sleep schedule (like, seriously, two of the guild wars were at 2 AM and 7 AM EST and the remaining two happened while I was at work and couldn't attend, so if I wanted to help my guild AT ALL, I had to attend the ones that occurred during the exact time when I needed to be in bed instead) and not being able to reconcile with either not helping my guild which is made up of real people, or not getting the guild medals towards the latest senki, I decided I was better off just leaving the game. I have also made a vow to not play any more browser games that have scheduled guild war competitions in them because at that point, for anyone who actually cares about their guild, the game starts becoming a job, thus I did not move on to Kamihime.

I am a mini-whale of sorts where money isn't much of a factor. However, as a working person who already has a job, time IS a factor, and Sengoku's guild wars took up too much time. Thus I, and my money, have departed from the game. I also note that at least two other paying people I know left Sengoku for the same reason.

It may be that it's still more profitable for Nutaku and DMM to continue having guild wars in their games as they MIGHT encourage other whales to spend more money or be more committed to the games, moreso than the cost of people like me leaving it. However, Nutaku needs data in order to be able to realize if that's the case or not, so.... here's a little bit of data that I can give them from this baby-whale's personal experience and the reasoning for my decision to leave the game (and not participate in any future games that have such things)

Well, okay, that and this silly event with its silly 400k point requirement to get 160 magatamas might have also contributed a bit by giving me massive burnout for trying to reach it. Like, seriously, by the time I hit 200k points, I had maxed out both godified and evolved versions of every inhuman senki, all 16 or so of my 5* evolved/godified senki, and all of my other 4* and 3* senki, and still had 200k points left to go. At that point I was sitting there trying to figure out what to do while striving to get the remaining 200k points and all my brain could say was "Now what?" That was another pretty big clue to me that it was probably time to go. As another bit of data which may help Nutaku in their future business endeavors and how to design profitable events that retain spending players, I did not spend a single cent while getting that 200k points because I did it all with free magatama. So basically this event didn't get Nutaku any further profit from me while perhaps contributing towards this baby whale's departure of the game at the same time. Hopefully this data will assist them with how they design future events.

......but yea, it was mostly the guild wars.

Again, I can only contribute my personal experience and may not be representative of other baby-whales, but I hope this data can be of assistance in future game designs. Good luck to ye!

Originally Posted by TiamatRoar

I have also made a vow to not play any more browser games that have scheduled guild war competitions in them because at that point, for anyone who actually cares about their guild, the game starts becoming a job, thus I did not move on to Kamihime.

Kamihime have those? I mean only thing I saw there is burst time that happens like twice a day. So you start raid battle with full burst gauge...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Kamihime have those? I mean only thing I saw there is burst time that happens like twice a day. So you start raid battle with full burst gauge...

Honestly at this point I was too exhausted to look into it. It does have unions though and mentioned group activities with them. Which I guess Sengoku traumatized me enough to instantly make me "Nope" away from Kamihime when I saw the "Join a union!" (or whatever guilds are called there) button.

Kamihime Project does have guilds, but you don't really need one. They do help during events (so you can send request help to your other members), and I believe you do get additional rewards if your guild ranks high during them, but you can make do without one. The events themselves last for around seven days, and you don't need to log in during specific times to do them. There are such things as "Burst Sessions", where you have a stretch of time (twice a day) where during raids your Burst Bar is automatically filled at the start (the guild leader sets the time, IIRC). It's great for grinding points/drops/etc., but again is more of a bonus feature than anything else.

In-regard to Sengoku Providence, I'll probably be leaving it myself after I hit 100k points. I've put in the time so far I kind of want to finish it up, but I won't be going for the next one. I'll likely log in daily for the free items in the hopes that they change things, but if not I'll just drop it entirely and focus purely on FKG and KP. I'm thinking maybe a month of just logging in, and if things are the same then, I'll probably just remove it from my daily routine entirely.

Sorry to hear you guys are leaving. I was lucky enough to find a guild that is both pretty effective and doesn't expect me to be contributing more than once a day (which is what works for me most weekdays). I won't make the 100k prize but oh well - at 53k now, will probably make the 67k award. I don't expect to do anything in the dojo other than the individual award levels. But I still have senki to improve and acquire and as long as I can plug away at that it's a reasonable enough way to spend a bit of time. It's a bit more strategic in combat in FKG but I will stay F2P in this one - I really don't like the hard push of paid magas that they have.

Yeah the guild wars are tedious and I usually can only make 1 of the 4 because of my work/sleep schedule. I don't know why it is that there aren't any scheduled during the times when people would be getting off of work and be at home for the night, huge mistake. Maybe the times are set by the guild, I dunno and I don't really care.

So basically, I'm a non combatant is most of them, if I'm off and at home I'll do alot of good but otherwise, I'm not helping my guild much.

Why nobody told me that I would need 4 5*/6* fully leveled girls from dojo to even pass first battle with that dragon goddess of inferno thingy... cause her ability works only on her.

Wasted all surplus 1* to Luk the 5* I have, instead I should have tried to get second one and then few 2 more from reissues, and then maybe if I could afford it - 6* one of them hehe.

Or maybe fully leveled and fox-stats maxed 6* could solo it? Anyone knows?

Originally Posted by thatoneguyfromwork

I don't know, I've been playing Sengoku Providence since it's release...it's not that friendly to new players.

Even these new events are near impossible for newer players despite these "staff".

I have 6 5-star but all of these have come from the events and christmas, new year gachas. I feel if I was go keep going but I feel I would be left so far behind despite have 240ish free magatama...they are fairly worthless but will allow me to finish the more recent events with no problems.

My "guild" has died 3 times. I'm not feeling it. This game is just going to die, if I, being a day 1 free player feel like I'm being left behind.

There will be no new players that can get into this game and will stay. The staff better get this through their heads. Even those that have held on won't be around for much longer.

Even whales need fodder to fight in GvG.

The slower the transition to the japanese mode of friendlier to newbie, the faster this game dies.

As this man stated, most free2p get it very rough even with the ´free´ events, this game clearly focus strongly in guild wars..unless you are a big whale or a f2p that has no life, it WILL become tedious, add to the fact that most 6 senkis are as hard as fuck to get for free2p, im not surprised that the free playerbase is bleeding out faster than the incoming playerbase shich is already small enough.

As stated above ´even whales needs fodder´ to fight, I cant see a very long future for this game. And since the sengoku staff actually looks/monitor this thread, i advice you to make the current p2win transition to the jp model as fast as posssible, or the game wont survive that long to see it done.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The slower the transition to the japanese mode of friendlier to newbie, the faster this game dies.

As this man stated, most free2p get it very rough even with the ´free´ events, this game clearly focus strongly in guild wars..unless you are a big whale or a f2p that has no life, it WILL become tedious, add to the fact that most 6 senkis are as hard as fuck to get for free2p, im not surprised that the free playerbase is bleeding out faster than the incoming playerbase shich is already small enough.

As stated above ´even whales needs fodder´ to fight, I cant see a very long future for this game. And since the sengoku staff actually looks/monitor this thread, i advice you to make the current p2win transition to the jp model as fast as posssible, or the game wont survive that long to see it done.

And not to mention that the previous event was so hard that even big whales had their arses handed, imagine how freaking impossible is for freebie players that had no luck with the crap free magatama rates that did not hoarded thousands of the useless free magatamas.

Nice job, its delicious seeing this game crumble..keep up the good job!