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    They added leader-board to previous one too, just close to the event end.

    And no, I didn't hit 20k yet. I spent 40 magas on that retarded pull, so now I need to get some magas to refill stamina here and there to reach the 20k.


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    lol i just saw the top rankings on the new rebellion event, there are people with 60k points allready!! How is that possible? Is there any optimal way to farm this points that i am missing??

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    Magas to refill stamina. With 100+ stamina cap you can get 0-stamina map and a bit of points from spending that 100 stamina in the first place.

    Or just go straight to event and unlock the 0-stamina map with magas - less points but less work too, and you still get 70k points from 100 magas.

    Nothing hardcore about that, whales be whales XD.

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    OK, I reached 20k points.

    20k reward is the 4* girl, and then each 400 points its all the time 4* girl.

    So 20k4 points it her, then 20k8, 21k2, 21k6, 22k and so on till 100k.

    Which means that till 100k points you get a total of 208 copies of 4* girl.

    You need 8 copies to have her in 6* form. And then 98 more to Luk her to 6* Luk 99.

    So that leaves you with 102 more copies or a 6* Luk 95.

    You can buy copy of her for 15k senki points so for 60k senki points you can have two Luk 99 6* girls. Thou fire, but still its damn nice.

    If one wants to get a single 6* Luk 99 then one would need 59200 points total, thus around 4228.57 points per day.
    With around 400 stamina a day to burn from passive regeneration, one would then have around 400*2+4*700 points per day from it (around 2 points per stamina spent and 700 bonus map per 100 stamina used). 3600 total, missing 630 points more - so a maga per day.

    There are few more rewards:

    125k - 20 big darumas

    150k - 20 veteran tanuki (fire)

    175k - 40 magas

    200k - 20 magas (paid ones)

    Assuming one gets lucky on special mobs spawns and/or have more than 100 stamina cap, then 1 maga could equal close to 1k points.

    So 60 magas would be 60k points:
    - You need 50k to reach it from 150k and veteran tanuki step - barely worth it, as you already need to actually burn a lot of magas to even reach 150k in 14 days.
    - You need 100k to reach it from last 4* copy/100k points - not worth it at all, even if you include the fact that 20 of them are paid ones.
    - You need a bit over 140k to reach it from around 60k points where you got first 6* Luk 99 - similar to above thou if you don't want another 6* copy its even worse.

    If one plans to reach 100k or more and thus get all 4* copies, one would have a question to ask about whats better to get:
    - Secondary 6* Luk 95 (or 99 if you get 60k senki points to spare) - but you cant use same copies in most (or all) total wars.
    - Secondary girls but only 5* Luk 75 (with a 6* made out of left overs) - you can use both in total wars, but you lose 24 Luk for all other game types.
    - A 5* (made of 4 4* copies) for total wars sake, with a secondary 6* Luk 91 (or up to 99 if you have 120k senki points to spare) - an mix of both above options.
    Last one is probably the best as I assume Luk gives nothing in total wars anyway? Thou 5* is max 70 level so won't be that helpful in 99 level total wars.
    Last edited by Eversor86; 03-02-2017 at 01:59 AM.

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    I collected the 280 Matagama to 10x pull the 5* gacha. It's telling me I need paid Magatama for it. Pure BS.

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    Thats gacha with only 5*, you pay 280 paid magas to get 10 5*. Thats 28 paid magas per a 5*. You decide if 28 per single 5* is better than higher numbers like 40 paid magas per 10 pull that has a 5* guaranteed and 9 other girls can be 3* or 4* or 5* if you lucky.

    There are limited single use 40 free magas gachas in limited section, and same ones in normal section that cost 60 and are probably multiple use ones. So with your 280 magas, you can spin the limited 3 ones for 120 and get 3 guaranteed 5* and 27 other girls 3* to 5* if lucky. And you will have 160 left - so get 20 more and you will be able to spin 3 times more the 60 magas ones.

  6. #556
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor86 View Post
    Thats gacha with only 5*, you pay 280 paid magas to get 10 5*. Thats 28 paid magas per a 5*. You decide if 28 per single 5* is better than higher numbers like 40 paid magas per 10 pull that has a 5* guaranteed and 9 other girls can be 3* or 4* or 5* if you lucky.

    There are limited single use 40 free magas gachas in limited section, and same ones in normal section that cost 60 and are probably multiple use ones. So with your 280 magas, you can spin the limited 3 ones for 120 and get 3 guaranteed 5* and 27 other girls 3* to 5* if lucky. And you will have 160 left - so get 20 more and you will be able to spin 3 times more the 60 magas ones.
    I've already spun the Festival single use 40 (getting Oda Nobunaga and Houju Ujiyasu). I didn't think that the other guaranteed 5*s were worth it compared to the 5* only gacha.

    I just don't like that the 5* doesn't advertise that you need paid Magatama for it. It's at least $120 for that no thanks.

  7. #557
    Quote Originally Posted by Eversor86 View Post
    If one plans to reach 100k or more and thus get all 4* copies, one would have a question to ask about whats better to get:
    - Secondary 6* Luk 95 (or 99 if you get 60k senki points to spare) - but you cant use same copies in most (or all) total wars.
    - Secondary girls but only 5* Luk 75 (with a 6* made out of left overs) - you can use both in total wars, but you lose 24 Luk for all other game types.
    - A 5* (made of 4 4* copies) for total wars sake, with a secondary 6* Luk 91 (or up to 99 if you have 120k senki points to spare) - an mix of both above options.
    Last one is probably the best as I assume Luk gives nothing in total wars anyway? Thou 5* is max 70 level so won't be that helpful in 99 level total wars.
    Having another 5* lvl 70 wouldn't be bad for the lower total war, it is a shame she can't be evolved and godified to make 2 copies of her 6* self worth doing.

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    How is everyone doing in the Sengoku X Idol Wars Z collab? I have done everything but the stupid combo requirement. Been joining dead productions where no one really does anything on the times I am available. The one guy I did have doing something was so out of timing I could get a decent combo going, I got to a combo of 3.

    Not sure if that event is over now but I think I have one more chance at getting this combo done before the collab event ends.
    Last edited by Jay Rich; 03-02-2017 at 03:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Rich View Post
    Having another 5* lvl 70 wouldn't be bad for the lower total war, it is a shame she can't be evolved and godified to make 2 copies of her 6* self worth doing.
    Yeah, pity that event girls like this one have only a single way of evolving by godifing only. They could give us another variant that would like other 5* girls let us evolve her via normal mats. Heck maybe for example let us evolve the godified 6* to another version of 6*.

    Well what we can do, we can always use option 3 - get a 5* Luk 1, and 6* Luk 91 alongside the 6* Luk 99. Have two decent Luk 6* for sake of GvG/Campaign/event maps, and one of 6* and the 5* for sake of total wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Rich View Post
    How is everyone doing in the Sengoku X Idol Wars Z collab? I have done everything but the stupid combo requirement. Been joining dead productions where no one really does anything on the times I am available. The one guy I did have doing something was so out of timing I could get a decent combo going, I got to a combo of 3.
    I think we are asked to make 5 combos. Not exactly a one combo of 5 or more. Guild I joined is basically dead, there is like 2 guys, one shows up once per 5 fights, hits once and then leaves. Another one that hits like a truck (high level player) shows like 3 out of 5 fights, but he knows what to do aka he nicely comboes with me.

    I am lucky thou even more, as I did play this game a bit before the colab and dropped it cause I found it really bad. But that "head start" gave me a girl that has a +2 to combo move. So when that high level dude did show up, we often reached 10+ combos, 17 I think being a record. Couldn't do more, cause at that point the guy basically nuked to zero enemies, and when they are down you cant continue with act attacks thus cant prolong the combo further.

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    As a side note. I wish that those colab events have had some type of trackers, so that you know when you done everything you needed to. Thou looking on how X-Overd and FKG colab had people on both sides being angry that they got wrong rewards or didn't get some of it that they should, something tells me that the tracking mechanics would works even worse than the summing up of the colabs after they end hahaha.
    Last edited by Eversor86; 03-02-2017 at 04:11 AM.

  9. #559
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    Well whatever you do, DON'T switch your Production now. You won't get another shot at a Dreamfest. And the combo deal is cumulative, so you don't need to get 5 in a row, just 3 plus another 2 somewhere. Today is the last day, I think, got about 13 more hours? I just gotta finish the Oda Nobunaga stuff, which I'm about to do in a few minutes here. Sorry I couldn't help you guys out more, though our times are different than you need, I think. Good luck!

    EDIT- YES! Some sort of tracker, or hell, even a green checkmark would be GOOD. It can figure out what you've done daily, I don't know why they can't put one there to figure out what you've done towards the Collaboration. Bleh.

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    I am not changing production, and I am more or less sure I done what colab asked me to do actually days ago. Guild I joined had times for DF set in such a way that I can be on both each day, so I was done with 7 DF on 4th day . Pretty sure I done more than 10 combo moves of various types with most being over 10 to even close to 20. Don't even know what else was there to be done, I was level 30+ when I got back for sake of colab, and leveled like 20 times anyway just for sake of being safe ;].

    And why they don't make any tracker/checkmarks - cause that would be to much inventive work. All they kinda do is just take stuff done by DMM, modify/translate/fuckup here and there/remove stuff they to lazy to translate/make work - well you get the picture XD
    Last edited by Eversor86; 03-02-2017 at 10:43 AM.

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