Thread: Sengoku Providence announced!

Had an interesting exchange with "smbgames" on their discord.

"smbgames" is the developer representative of Nutaku's Sengoku Providence. Our little chat gave me a little insight on just how exactly he feels about this game.

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At this point in time I was a lot more aggressive in my chat, because not only had he censored the suggestions channel, but he was getting his pet Moderators to delete negative comments from the chat room, and threatening to mute people.

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Basically, he's justifying making everything more expensive and restricting the Freemium options for casual players by saying:
We believe that our players should grind a lot more than necessary, or spend a lot more than necessary. 8 hours a day for free players!
...or at least, that's my interpretation of it.

He suggested that Free Players can actually get 5* gacha units pretty easily! How you may ask? Why, by using the shitty normal gacha and gathering 150 gacha 4* units and selling them all, of course! This should be par the course for any free player, right?

For those who don't know, there's this system called Senki Points in the game. You gain these points by selling any units. You typically only get 1 senki point when selling farmable units, like those shitty Youkai units from daily missions or generic soldiers. But gacha units sell for a lot more senki points. 3* units give 500 senki points and 4* units give 1000 senki points.

Below is the difference between farmable ingame units (Youkai) and a gacha unit. BTW, Youkai units are shittier characters of the same tier with lower stats and can't be used in one of the game modes in-game (Total War)

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How many Senki points do you need to exchange for a 5* unit? You need 150000 points.

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Let's do the math. For argument's sake, let's say you are somehow able to pull 10 4* units for every free magatama 10-draw, which is 40 free magatama each. Since you need 150 4* senki units, you'd need to perform 15 free magatama 10 draws, which amounts to 600 free magatamas at minimum.

You heard it right folks, our boi smbgames believe all free players should be able to gather the minimum requirement of 600 free magatamas and sell all the 4* units we get to obtain a 5* unit of our choice. In a timely manner, of course.

Honestly, you're more likely to draw a 5* from that shitty 2.61% drop rate by then.

Also, he pretty much confirmed that Nutaku's gacha will never be the same as DMM's gacha as that system "failed to pass the review" so there's no hope for this game moving forward I'm afraid.

EDIT: They kicked me off their discord for like 1 day lol.

Good Gameplay
Beautiful OST
Nice Art
Funny dialogues


But the gacha....Oh come on, this game is great, why they had to ruin everything?

Says a lot about how the game is managed when the mod who bans people makes a FAQ that covers being a pay player in more depth than being a F2P.

Yep guys that pretty much confirms it. Sry for all of you playing this atm but i hope this game dies a horrible death if they didn't change it in the long run.

Please play that game but don't spend money for it. They don't deserve it.

I mean FKG is at least somewhat similar to the DMM Counterpart.

But this game is either a horrible Grind Fest or a strict P2W Game. They should do Seppuku.

They dishonored the DMM Version

Nutaku screwed a lot of games. At first, I thought maybe it was because of the kind of license they obtained.
But, after that convo I think they do it on purpose to rack more cash.

So I got on the Sengoku Providence train late and looks like it's already time to get off. I ain't dealing with this much anti-consumer bullcrap. A Time to Screw, hats off to you for doing God's work for the rest of us lazy bums
I tried to play the DMM version but I got no idea what I'm doing wrong I'm stuck in some endless loop that keeps redirecting me the the senpro page. Maybe someone can PM me the direct link to the gameplay?

Finding the game decently fun, but i must say that if i hadn't done a bit of a payment and gotten the auto battle and 2x unlocked i would have already quit it.

It would be more logical if they just slash one "0" from 150000 exchange points.

Considering from what I've heard about the difficulty spike requiring multiple lvl 99 senki to just pass at endgame lvl, if they're insistent on keeping the gacha the same, then the difficulty is gonna have to be adjusted for balance purposes, else free players that are unable to get 6*s due to luck or whatever are gonna be destroyed on those lvl99 requirement lvls.

Heh, maybe the stamina regen rate should be reduced to 1 per minute like x-overd to make the grind possible or something.

Originally Posted by A Time to Screw

Basically, he's justifying making everything more expensive and restricting the Freemium options for casual players by saying "We believe that our players should grind a lot more than necessary, or spend a lot more than necessary. 8 hours a day for free players!"

Did I read the 8 hrs part correctly?

In pretty much all of Nutaku games there's absolutely nothing to do 8 hrs per day (if you do not pay for stamina regains(aka not spending moneys)).

Oh you have "Guild Wars" prepare for it etc... Only that it's pretty much whale only mode, create 1 op party that no1 can take down, and congratz on your victory. And that's pretty much what's happening already.

Tried to be a free player from the very start, so no, not behind. And guess what happens in guild wars to free player party. Yep you guessed it right, literally 1 aoe and your whole party goes down. You also get to see dmg numbers newer seen before in game.

So no, there's absolutely nothing to do in this game for 8hrs/day if you'r freemium player (exception being pre lvl 15, while you still get full stamina refresh before using it all up, but that happens in all Nutaku games).

And in the end only few whales will be left to play this game. Best of luck to em, hope at least they can have fun.