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    150k is the normal prize, no misstake.
    limited senkis cost 500k in DMM.
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.

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    150k is the normal prize, no misstake.
    limited senkis cost 500k in DMM.
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    150k is the normal prize, no misstake.
    limited senkis cost 500k in DMM.
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.
    *600k
    and gatcha is also the same, except for the not garanted 5* in the NORMAL one
    but then again, it wasnt in the DMM version from the start eiher.
    you have around 300 free Yins (magatama) to spent with just the 3 campains and login/daily.

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    You have around 300 free Yins (magatama) to spent with just the 3 campains and login/daily.


    Yes, for 3* senki. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.
    The greater picture I was getting at earlier is that in the DMM version you can get about.. 3~ solid teams of 6-star Senki that you can field in Total Wars if you use your magatama wisely. In the Nutaku version.. you can spend all that free magatama on draws and (very likely) will not even draw a single 6-star.

    That is a HUGE power difference in tackling Total Wars - and a dramatic cut to event-countering potential(as demi-humans are often weaker than their human counterparts). Furthermore, I believe Kuebiko is the only mini-event 6-star with the ability to heal; the 5-star Water Tiger simply isn't fast(or strong) enough to be effective as a healer against 6-star/"Shura" quality opponents.


    The DMM version is designed around the successful idea that everyone has semi-regular access to 6-star Senki(with the ability to speed up the acquisition rate via spending money). The Nutaku version treats those 6-star senki as a "premium service"; locking not only the senki themselves, but also the game content that said senki enable behind a destructively inhibiting paywall.

    Constructively speaking, a compromise may be to remove the restriction for the 5-star "Normal" gatcha - effectively allowing players to exchange 40 free magatama for one of the original 13 Senki. Long-term power-scaling will still become a potential issue, but this simple change would make the end game accessible to everyone, as intended. This would also be the quickest/least labor-intensive solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsel View Post
    The greater picture I was getting at earlier is that in the DMM version you can get about.. 3~ solid teams of 6-star Senki that you can field in Total Wars if you use your magatama wisely. In the Nutaku version.. you can spend all that free magatama on draws and (very likely) will not even draw a single 6-star.

    That is a HUGE power difference in tackling Total Wars - and a dramatic cut to event-countering potential(as demi-humans are often weaker than their human counterparts). Furthermore, I believe Kuebiko is the only mini-event 6-star with the ability to heal; the 5-star Water Tiger simply isn't fast(or strong) enough to be effective as a healer against 6-star/"Shura" quality opponents.


    The DMM version is designed around the successful idea that everyone has semi-regular access to 6-star Senki(with the ability to speed up the acquisition rate via spending money). The Nutaku version treats those 6-star senki as a "premium service"; locking not only the senki themselves, but also the game content that said senki enable behind a destructively inhibiting paywall.

    Constructively speaking, a compromise may be to remove the restriction for the 5-star "Normal" gatcha - effectively allowing players to exchange 40 free magatama for one of the original 13 Senki. Long-term power-scaling will still become a potential issue, but this simple change would make the end game accessible to everyone, as intended. This would also be the quickest/least labor-intensive solution.
    it took 3months for DMM to change gatcha to what its now.
    there was no free 5* in 10er normal draw, as it is here..
    and they changed the Normal gatcha to 50.
    nutaku never said they will or wont change it and i hope they stay close to the dmm changes.
    also every other draw is paid maga in DMM too.
    senkis from that pool will be added to the Normal after some time.

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    Seriously
    What is the point of the dojo? The durema drop rate seems so low that it is just a waste of Stamina!
    I finished all 30 levels and only got about 4 duremas and they were in the lower levels. it seems to me its just another way getting people to waste their magatama on absolutely nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by
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    Seriously
    What is the point of the dojo? The durema drop rate seems so low that it is just a waste of Stamina!
    I finished all 30 levels and only got about 4 duremas and they were in the lower levels. it seems to me its just another way getting people to waste their magatama on absolutely nothing
    so as a guest, everyone can post in ur post?
    owell, dojo is for farming darumas, wich are luck drops only.
    means you need in slot 1 and 2 your own 99 luck senki and a 99 luck friend to get max drops.
    for starters u can easily make 3* generics 40 luck or like everyone else Enma.
    best way to farm is stage 1 to 5 bc you can get 3 3* darumas for 1 STAM.
    the game was a long time top 10 in jap. now with the mobile release (mobile is #3) + new games, it dropped quite a bit on pc.
    but no idea how many are useing ex. im saving tho.

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    C'mon staff, you are literally GRINDING the free players here

    I only drew the 80 magatma gacha for my 5* and due to college constraints I haven't been able to get any other 5* senki,

    When i finally collect another 40mags i see the limited 5* draw with the paid ones !!!

    I assure you that kind of game is not for "all kinds of players" and I feel offend by it.

    you are beginning to turn off many potential customers here.

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    you are beginning to turn off many potential customers here.
    lol this guy, you really think nutaku give a shit about free players? if so then i have to say you are beyond delusional.
    In short, if you dont pay then you are not their customer nor their "intended target audience"
    Lock the gacha behind the paywall for the sake of "balance" laughable

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    So much "balance" in this game that a one man guild got matched up with full blown 20-man guilds.
    Sengoku Providence announced!-oirc6v.jpg

    And I just love how much of a coward a certain guild is that they repeatedly spam attacked a one-man guild to farm points.
    I'm still surprised that they haven't made it so that there is a limit to how many times you can attack a surrendered guild unless they revive themselves with Prayer again.
    Sengoku Providence announced!-2utp63r.jpg

    At least the other two guilds didn't stoop that low.

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    Its not Farming Point

    This is called Farming Gold and its easiest done to the lowest count party who is inactive and does not revive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff View Post
    In order to clarify a little bit the messages posted here, please know the following:


    - Gacha system and the game system were slightly modify in order to balance the game for all kind of players.

    All your previous statement lose credibility after i read this one.

    `Gacha system and the game system were SLIGHTLY modified`


    Hell yea, if thats what you guys called slightyl midifying the i dont even want to know the extremes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    150k is the normal prize, no misstake.
    limited senkis cost 500k in DMM.
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.
    ...I stand corrected, then.

    How many people playing on the JP server actually use the points exchange at those prices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    150k is the normal prize, no misstake.
    limited senkis cost 500k in DMM.
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.

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    150k is the normal prize, no misstake.
    limited senkis cost 500k in DMM.
    also, you cant use nonhumans in TW in the DMM version either.

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    *600k
    and gatcha is also the same, except for the not garanted 5* in the NORMAL one
    but then again, it wasnt in the DMM version from the start eiher.
    you have around 300 free Yins (magatama) to spent with just the 3 campains and login/daily.
    Limited senkis are really expensive... but they are 6 stars... Yeah, 6 stars... Save your money since 6 star senkis are coming and if you thought that getting 5 star was a pain then you might want to cut your veins when 6 stars arrive. (they have like ~0.7% from gacha compared to current ~2.7% 5 stars)

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