Thread: Sengoku Providence announced!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is called Farming Gold and its easiest done to the lowest count party who is inactive and does not revive

Gold is so easy to obtain in this game that there is quite literally no need to even farm it.

I can't help but think that they simply wish to boost their own ego when they see the all new +10M record in their guild records.
Neither of the other two guilds were stooping so low to attack me.
It's like a freaking whale zerg rush on my door step and no amount of Prayer spam revive can stop them.

*sigh* And here I thought the game's matchmaking algorithm would at least be smart enough to know that 1 VS 20 is by no way fair or the game system at least having some common sense in the fact that there is a limit to the number of times you can attack a downed guild.
I have no idea what is the point of showing "6 parties <-(or some random number) remaining" message if you can infinitely spam attack them.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Gold is so easy to obtain in this game that there is quite literally no need to even farm it.

I can't help but think that they simply wish to boost their own ego when they see the all new +10M record in their guild records.
Neither of the other two guilds were stooping so low to attack me.
It's like a freaking whale zerg rush on my door step and no amount of Prayer spam revive can stop them.

*sigh* And here I thought the game's matchmaking algorithm would at least be smart enough to know that 1 VS 20 is by no way fair or the game system at least having some common sense in the fact that there is a limit to the number of times you can attack a downed guild.
I have no idea what is the point of showing "6 parties <-(or some random number) remaining" message if you can infinitely spam attack them.

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

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Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Gold is so easy to obtain in this game that there is quite literally no need to even farm it.

I can't help but think that they simply wish to boost their own ego when they see the all new +10M record in their guild records.
Neither of the other two guilds were stooping so low to attack me.
It's like a freaking whale zerg rush on my door step and no amount of Prayer spam revive can stop them.

*sigh* And here I thought the game's matchmaking algorithm would at least be smart enough to know that 1 VS 20 is by no way fair or the game system at least having some common sense in the fact that there is a limit to the number of times you can attack a downed guild.
I have no idea what is the point of showing "6 parties <-(or some random number) remaining" message if you can infinitely spam attack them.

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

Also i advise you to come over to discord the clan who currently farming you are on discord if you want to have a chat with them

click on discord in the ingame banner at the homepage

*zodiac*

Response to several questions asked in the previous messages:

- 150.000 Senki points will get you a 5* Senki with 5 Luck, which means 5 copies of that Senki.

- several 5* Senki were and will be rewarded for completing various tasks accessible for all players.

- Inb4whales , we will add the match up criteria to have more players in your guild. One of the match-up criteria is player average and we guess you qualify for a match up with those guilds.

- unregistered user (yes, we know there are many), we consider the gacha system slightly changed to the DMM original version, not the current game that is designed to help new players. Most likely we will have the same system in place.

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

- 150.000 Senki points will get you a 5* Senki with 5 Luck, which means 5 copies of that Senki.

- several 5* Senki were and will be rewarded for completing various tasks accessible for all players.

...So that means 30,000 points per copy of a 5* senki. Okay, that does sound more reasonable. It'd still be preferable to have the option to trade for individual copies, since I'm guessing that the 3* and 4* senki only come with 1 Luck at those prices.

Is there a listing of what those tasks for getting 5* rewards are? Are they in-game tasks, or are you referring to stuff like the current story mode challenge?

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

- Inb4whales , we will add the match up criteria to have more players in your guild. One of the match-up criteria is player average and we guess you qualify for a match up with those guilds.

I'm pretty sure there isn't exactly a complicated criteria or algorithm for matchups at the moment.
Because from what I can tell, I hit S-rank yesterday and I immediately got matched up with 20 man guilds.
Now I got demoted back to A-rank where people aren't zerg rushing at my doorstep and I actually have some level of fighting chance.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

I will admit that I was pretty hot-headed yesterday and I'm in a much better condition to provide better arguments now.
Considering the fact that yesterday (weekends) was a gold mine weekly event for farming cats, I find your argument that you're farming me for gold to be lackluster.
With a large drop rate booster trait from Yoshimoto or Evolved Dousetsu and perhaps a LUK3+ leader, one can easily get over 200k+ gold in less than a minute for farming a SINGLE 35 Stamina Cat mine.

That is leaps and bounds faster and more efficient than farming a downed guild that only provides around 10k-20k gold per battle where the loading screens usually take longer than the actual fight itself. Now one could argue with "I'm farming you because I already used my stamina." but again, need I remind you that unless you have sooo much time to sink in or simply wish to min-max everything, it is simply not a time-efficient method, especially when even farming Hell mode while constantly leveling up (unless your level already exceeds 80) is a much better way.

I still stick to my original assumption that most of your guild members (I won't say all of you since I saw one or two of your members who are genuinely participating in the GvG instead of taking the cheese way out) are simply there for the easy way out. I highly doubt you're that desperate for a total of 200,000k-400,000k gold by spending all 300BF points on me.

One other reason I simply lost respect for your guild is the fact that before I even made my original post, I can clearly see that plenty of you were obviously trolling by attacking me with Darumas and Foxes in your party (ONLY after the guild is in surrender mode of course) despite the fact that you clearly had enough evolved and godified characters to use. Personally if I were in an equally matched guild and the other team trolls me for it, I probably wouldn't mind as much. But your guild's lack or respect for an opponent simply disgusted me.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

I'm pretty sure there isn't exactly a complicated criteria or algorithm for matchups at the moment.
Because from what I can tell, I hit S-rank yesterday and I immediately got matched up with 20 man guilds.
Now I got demoted back to A-rank where people aren't zerg rushing at my doorstep and I actually have some level of fighting chance.



I will admit that I was pretty hot-headed yesterday and I'm in a much better condition to provide better arguments now.
Considering the fact that yesterday (weekends) was a gold mine weekly event for farming cats, I find your argument that you're farming me for gold to be lackluster.
With a large drop rate booster trait from Yoshimoto or Evolved Dousetsu and perhaps a LUK3+ leader, one can easily get over 200k+ gold in less than a minute for farming a SINGLE 35 Stamina Cat mine.

That is leaps and bounds faster and more efficient than farming a downed guild that only provides around 10k-20k gold per battle where the loading screens usually take longer than the actual fight itself. Now one could argue with "I'm farming you because I already used my stamina." but again, need I remind you that unless you have sooo much time to sink in or simply wish to min-max everything, it is simply not a time-efficient method, especially when even farming Hell mode while constantly leveling up (unless your level already exceeds 80) is a much better way.

I still stick to my original assumption that most of your guild members (I won't say all of you since I saw one or two of your members who are genuinely participating in the GvG instead of taking the cheese way out) are simply there for the easy way out. I highly doubt you're that desperate for a total of 200,000k-400,000k gold by spending all 300BF points on me.

One other reason I simply lost respect for your guild is the fact that before I even made my original post, I can clearly see that plenty of you were obviously trolling by attacking me with Darumas and Foxes in your party (ONLY after the guild is in surrender mode of course) despite the fact that you clearly had enough evolved and godified characters to use. Personally if I were in an equally matched guild and the other team trolls me for it, I probably wouldn't mind as much. But your guild's lack or respect for an opponent simply disgusted me.

Instead of spending stamina to farm gold we can also use Battle force to make gold why don't we do both When i farm you I did Cat as BattleForce refilling while farming you for the 20K gold also every gold counts even if its 200,000-400,000K Gold as i mentioned above please Join the Senpro Offical Discord group to have better argument

Your Regards
*Zodiac*

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Originally Posted by Inb4whales

I'm pretty sure there isn't exactly a complicated criteria or algorithm for matchups at the moment.
Because from what I can tell, I hit S-rank yesterday and I immediately got matched up with 20 man guilds.
Now I got demoted back to A-rank where people aren't zerg rushing at my doorstep and I actually have some level of fighting chance.



I will admit that I was pretty hot-headed yesterday and I'm in a much better condition to provide better arguments now.
Considering the fact that yesterday (weekends) was a gold mine weekly event for farming cats, I find your argument that you're farming me for gold to be lackluster.
With a large drop rate booster trait from Yoshimoto or Evolved Dousetsu and perhaps a LUK3+ leader, one can easily get over 200k+ gold in less than a minute for farming a SINGLE 35 Stamina Cat mine.

That is leaps and bounds faster and more efficient than farming a downed guild that only provides around 10k-20k gold per battle where the loading screens usually take longer than the actual fight itself. Now one could argue with "I'm farming you because I already used my stamina." but again, need I remind you that unless you have sooo much time to sink in or simply wish to min-max everything, it is simply not a time-efficient method, especially when even farming Hell mode while constantly leveling up (unless your level already exceeds 80) is a much better way.

I still stick to my original assumption that most of your guild members (I won't say all of you since I saw one or two of your members who are genuinely participating in the GvG instead of taking the cheese way out) are simply there for the easy way out. I highly doubt you're that desperate for a total of 200,000k-400,000k gold by spending all 300BF points on me.

One other reason I simply lost respect for your guild is the fact that before I even made my original post, I can clearly see that plenty of you were obviously trolling by attacking me with Darumas and Foxes in your party (ONLY after the guild is in surrender mode of course) despite the fact that you clearly had enough evolved and godified characters to use. Personally if I were in an equally matched guild and the other team trolls me for it, I probably wouldn't mind as much. But your guild's lack or respect for an opponent simply disgusted me.

It's called "stacking resources" for fights with top guilds. Your math is totally irrelevant here since we're not farming you instead of doing smth else. You are just added to the gold acquisition process. And since we get BF while playing the game we just burn it on the thing that will help us in future vs other guilds if we can afford to do so.

Bout Darumas and Foxes its prolly just ppl having fun. Since it's a game it should be fun. You just take it 2 serious. And you're not smth special it happend before also. If nutaku won't change the matchmaking then you will be farmed/foxed/darumed in future also. Which is just a way of the game and nothing personal.

Also - if I may say so - you should be prepared to be farmed as soon as you decided to run "1 man guild".

Regards

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

- unregistered user (yes, we know there are many), we consider the gacha system slightly changed to the DMM original version, not the current game that is designed to help new players. Most likely we will have the same system in place.

Assuming I'm reading that correctly, that means the Gacha system will change to what DMM currently has in due time.
If so, maybe people can stop flipping their lids every few hours.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Instead of spending stamina to farm gold we can also use Battle force to make gold why don't we do both When i farm you I did Cat as BattleForce refilling while farming you for the 20K gold also every gold counts even if its 200,000-400,000K Gold...

...Your math is totally irrelevant here...

Bout Darumas and Foxes its prolly just ppl having fun. Since it's a game it should be fun. You just take it 2 serious...

...you should be prepared to be farmed as soon as you decided to run "1 man guild".

as i mentioned above please Join the Senpro Offical Discord group to have better argument...

I request both of you to go back and read what I wrote because neither of you don't seem to understand that farming Hell mode can consistently refill your stamina bar from level ups AND net you a higher amount of gold and materials from each run.

Saying someone's math is totally irrelevant while not giving a reason why, results in a statement that is null and void.

My reason for a "1 man guild" is to see how far I can push myself as the game steadily increases in challenge (Yes, even if the game is pretty much a no-skill game that puts brainless AI on your team as a defense force). I obviously didn't expect a huge spike of zerg rush, that's for sure. That and the other reason being that I don't want to set the guild to auto recruit only to have leechers join the guild (and I've been in plenty).

But sure, keep justifying your own actions with "Oh it's not our fault for beating you senseless and trolling all over your lost troops. It's just us having fun at the cost of YOUR fun and respect. Heck, you shouldn't even have created a guild in the first place.".
Bravo boys. Bravo. And just when I thought humanity had came a long way in evolution and we differentiated ourselves from animals. I see that we as a species still have a long way to go...

And I'm sorry to say, but Discord is not my thing nor am I free enough to stay online long enough for a debate.
I rest my case.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Saying someone's math is totally irrelevant while not giving a reason why, results in a statement that is null and void.

Putting the phrases out of the sentence, are we? I did said why your math is irrelevant. Dunno what you can't or don't want to understand there. BTW most of us don't lvl up from Hell mode already.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

My reason for a "1 man guild" is to see how far I can push myself as the game steadily increases in challenge (Yes, even if the game is pretty much a no-skill game that puts brainless AI on your team as a defense force). I obviously didn't expect a huge spike of zerg rush, that's for sure. That and the other reason being that I don't want to set the guild to auto recruit only to have leechers join the guild (and I've been in plenty).

Thats really not my concern. What I meant is that the guild with the lowest number of parties is always farmed (if we can afford to do it - means if we know that no1 other is a threat). In this case it was you.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

But sure, keep justifying your own actions with "Oh it's not our fault for beating you senseless and trolling all over your lost troops. It's just us having fun at the cost of YOUR fun and respect. Heck, you shouldn't even have created a guild in the first place.".
Bravo boys. Bravo. And just when I thought humanity had came a long way in evolution and we differentiated ourselves from animals. I see that we as a species still have a long way to go...

1st of all I'm not justifying anything since there is nothing to justify. I just gave you simple explanation why. Instead of reading it with comprehension you're just being senselessly ironic. Dunno what you want to acomplish with it anyway aside from achieving some kind of complacency that you could flame someone.

I do agree about the humanity thingie tho. I also believed that people are more open-minded and won't just negate anything thats not to their liking.

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Originally Posted by katsalia

Assuming I'm reading that correctly, that means the Gacha system will change to what DMM currently has in due time.
If so, maybe people can stop flipping their lids every few hours.

If they do make it like DMM, then hell be sure that many of the already quitted players will come back.


I even deleted my nutaku sengoku providence game data because i just rerolled for another game, even if i had 2 5* cuz f"k the current game.


I think that many of us will give this game another chance IF they follow the path of the original DMM one, if not..well, this game can shut down for all what i care, since right now its basically a game targeted to whales (no matter how sen nutaku dev try to explain it).

Does this game get actual event girls (not those daily ones) or are new girls only going to be added to gatca? I feel like dropping the game since there's nothing to really work for and leveling girls is stupidly easy