Thread: Sengoku Providence announced!

you are beginning to turn off many potential customers here.

lol this guy, you really think nutaku give a shit about free players? if so then i have to say you are beyond delusional.
In short, if you dont pay then you are not their customer nor their "intended target audience"
Lock the gacha behind the paywall for the sake of "balance" laughable

So much "balance" in this game that a one man guild got matched up with full blown 20-man guilds.


And I just love how much of a coward a certain guild is that they repeatedly spam attacked a one-man guild to farm points.
I'm still surprised that they haven't made it so that there is a limit to how many times you can attack a surrendered guild unless they revive themselves with Prayer again.


At least the other two guilds didn't stoop that low.

This is called Farming Gold and its easiest done to the lowest count party who is inactive and does not revive

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Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

In order to clarify a little bit the messages posted here, please know the following:


- Gacha system and the game system were slightly modify in order to balance the game for all kind of players.

All your previous statement lose credibility after i read this one.

`Gacha system and the game system were SLIGHTLY modified`


Hell yea, if thats what you guys called slightyl midifying the i dont even want to know the extremes.

LOL

this game is just wow.

OK, since the nutaku dev actually bothers reading this topic and there seems to be no censorship or banning, then i´ll add my 2 cents too.


I strongly advise f2p players NOT to play this game, true..you can get if you are very luck several 6* as f2p, but that doenst change the nature of nutakus sengoku providence, why?

- you wont be super lucky forever; you might get 3-4 (lets say you are THAT lucky and once in a blue moon there are 5* events), you will still get utterly outmatched and curbstomped in total war, where whales got so much more team flexibilty, the newest toys (paid gacha only) while you are locked in your lucky free draws, since no inhumans are allowed either to balance the abysmal gap between whales and no whales.

- Pay for everything, seriously. The use of free magatam right now equals to nothing aside stamina regen, etc. While I do support games to be moderately whale entincing (thats how they make money) but not in such way, where even sneezing cost $$$.

- Big difference between DMM version and the current one, ok. Some might say that it took dmm 3 months to change it into a more amicable enviroment...guys...this is Nutaku, you really think that they will listen to the f2p playerbase when they kick ppl from discord?

- Like stated above by some random user, i find it very hard to believe the nutaku staff statements after reading the `we slightly modified the gacha content`, lol yea..I can already see the bias credibility in all your previous statements.




I really liked this game at first glance, stopped playing and will not play until they improve this (guess, im done for).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is called Farming Gold and its easiest done to the lowest count party who is inactive and does not revive

Gold is so easy to obtain in this game that there is quite literally no need to even farm it.

I can't help but think that they simply wish to boost their own ego when they see the all new +10M record in their guild records.
Neither of the other two guilds were stooping so low to attack me.
It's like a freaking whale zerg rush on my door step and no amount of Prayer spam revive can stop them.

*sigh* And here I thought the game's matchmaking algorithm would at least be smart enough to know that 1 VS 20 is by no way fair or the game system at least having some common sense in the fact that there is a limit to the number of times you can attack a downed guild.
I have no idea what is the point of showing "6 parties <-(or some random number) remaining" message if you can infinitely spam attack them.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Gold is so easy to obtain in this game that there is quite literally no need to even farm it.

I can't help but think that they simply wish to boost their own ego when they see the all new +10M record in their guild records.
Neither of the other two guilds were stooping so low to attack me.
It's like a freaking whale zerg rush on my door step and no amount of Prayer spam revive can stop them.

*sigh* And here I thought the game's matchmaking algorithm would at least be smart enough to know that 1 VS 20 is by no way fair or the game system at least having some common sense in the fact that there is a limit to the number of times you can attack a downed guild.
I have no idea what is the point of showing "6 parties <-(or some random number) remaining" message if you can infinitely spam attack them.

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

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Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Gold is so easy to obtain in this game that there is quite literally no need to even farm it.

I can't help but think that they simply wish to boost their own ego when they see the all new +10M record in their guild records.
Neither of the other two guilds were stooping so low to attack me.
It's like a freaking whale zerg rush on my door step and no amount of Prayer spam revive can stop them.

*sigh* And here I thought the game's matchmaking algorithm would at least be smart enough to know that 1 VS 20 is by no way fair or the game system at least having some common sense in the fact that there is a limit to the number of times you can attack a downed guild.
I have no idea what is the point of showing "6 parties <-(or some random number) remaining" message if you can infinitely spam attack them.

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

Also i advise you to come over to discord the clan who currently farming you are on discord if you want to have a chat with them

click on discord in the ingame banner at the homepage

*zodiac*

Response to several questions asked in the previous messages:

- 150.000 Senki points will get you a 5* Senki with 5 Luck, which means 5 copies of that Senki.

- several 5* Senki were and will be rewarded for completing various tasks accessible for all players.

- Inb4whales , we will add the match up criteria to have more players in your guild. One of the match-up criteria is player average and we guess you qualify for a match up with those guilds.

- unregistered user (yes, we know there are many), we consider the gacha system slightly changed to the DMM original version, not the current game that is designed to help new players. Most likely we will have the same system in place.

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

- 150.000 Senki points will get you a 5* Senki with 5 Luck, which means 5 copies of that Senki.

- several 5* Senki were and will be rewarded for completing various tasks accessible for all players.

...So that means 30,000 points per copy of a 5* senki. Okay, that does sound more reasonable. It'd still be preferable to have the option to trade for individual copies, since I'm guessing that the 3* and 4* senki only come with 1 Luck at those prices.

Is there a listing of what those tasks for getting 5* rewards are? Are they in-game tasks, or are you referring to stuff like the current story mode challenge?

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

- Inb4whales , we will add the match up criteria to have more players in your guild. One of the match-up criteria is player average and we guess you qualify for a match up with those guilds.

I'm pretty sure there isn't exactly a complicated criteria or algorithm for matchups at the moment.
Because from what I can tell, I hit S-rank yesterday and I immediately got matched up with 20 man guilds.
Now I got demoted back to A-rank where people aren't zerg rushing at my doorstep and I actually have some level of fighting chance.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Gold are easy to obtain but not in large numbers, and gold does need to be farmed for Active Guild as 1 mil gold is used to refill BF when taking on similar strength active guild. and i'm talking as one of the guild who are farming you.
*Zodiac*

I will admit that I was pretty hot-headed yesterday and I'm in a much better condition to provide better arguments now.
Considering the fact that yesterday (weekends) was a gold mine weekly event for farming cats, I find your argument that you're farming me for gold to be lackluster.
With a large drop rate booster trait from Yoshimoto or Evolved Dousetsu and perhaps a LUK3+ leader, one can easily get over 200k+ gold in less than a minute for farming a SINGLE 35 Stamina Cat mine.

That is leaps and bounds faster and more efficient than farming a downed guild that only provides around 10k-20k gold per battle where the loading screens usually take longer than the actual fight itself. Now one could argue with "I'm farming you because I already used my stamina." but again, need I remind you that unless you have sooo much time to sink in or simply wish to min-max everything, it is simply not a time-efficient method, especially when even farming Hell mode while constantly leveling up (unless your level already exceeds 80) is a much better way.

I still stick to my original assumption that most of your guild members (I won't say all of you since I saw one or two of your members who are genuinely participating in the GvG instead of taking the cheese way out) are simply there for the easy way out. I highly doubt you're that desperate for a total of 200,000k-400,000k gold by spending all 300BF points on me.

One other reason I simply lost respect for your guild is the fact that before I even made my original post, I can clearly see that plenty of you were obviously trolling by attacking me with Darumas and Foxes in your party (ONLY after the guild is in surrender mode of course) despite the fact that you clearly had enough evolved and godified characters to use. Personally if I were in an equally matched guild and the other team trolls me for it, I probably wouldn't mind as much. But your guild's lack or respect for an opponent simply disgusted me.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

I'm pretty sure there isn't exactly a complicated criteria or algorithm for matchups at the moment.
Because from what I can tell, I hit S-rank yesterday and I immediately got matched up with 20 man guilds.
Now I got demoted back to A-rank where people aren't zerg rushing at my doorstep and I actually have some level of fighting chance.



I will admit that I was pretty hot-headed yesterday and I'm in a much better condition to provide better arguments now.
Considering the fact that yesterday (weekends) was a gold mine weekly event for farming cats, I find your argument that you're farming me for gold to be lackluster.
With a large drop rate booster trait from Yoshimoto or Evolved Dousetsu and perhaps a LUK3+ leader, one can easily get over 200k+ gold in less than a minute for farming a SINGLE 35 Stamina Cat mine.

That is leaps and bounds faster and more efficient than farming a downed guild that only provides around 10k-20k gold per battle where the loading screens usually take longer than the actual fight itself. Now one could argue with "I'm farming you because I already used my stamina." but again, need I remind you that unless you have sooo much time to sink in or simply wish to min-max everything, it is simply not a time-efficient method, especially when even farming Hell mode while constantly leveling up (unless your level already exceeds 80) is a much better way.

I still stick to my original assumption that most of your guild members (I won't say all of you since I saw one or two of your members who are genuinely participating in the GvG instead of taking the cheese way out) are simply there for the easy way out. I highly doubt you're that desperate for a total of 200,000k-400,000k gold by spending all 300BF points on me.

One other reason I simply lost respect for your guild is the fact that before I even made my original post, I can clearly see that plenty of you were obviously trolling by attacking me with Darumas and Foxes in your party (ONLY after the guild is in surrender mode of course) despite the fact that you clearly had enough evolved and godified characters to use. Personally if I were in an equally matched guild and the other team trolls me for it, I probably wouldn't mind as much. But your guild's lack or respect for an opponent simply disgusted me.

Instead of spending stamina to farm gold we can also use Battle force to make gold why don't we do both When i farm you I did Cat as BattleForce refilling while farming you for the 20K gold also every gold counts even if its 200,000-400,000K Gold as i mentioned above please Join the Senpro Offical Discord group to have better argument

Your Regards
*Zodiac*

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Originally Posted by Inb4whales

I'm pretty sure there isn't exactly a complicated criteria or algorithm for matchups at the moment.
Because from what I can tell, I hit S-rank yesterday and I immediately got matched up with 20 man guilds.
Now I got demoted back to A-rank where people aren't zerg rushing at my doorstep and I actually have some level of fighting chance.



I will admit that I was pretty hot-headed yesterday and I'm in a much better condition to provide better arguments now.
Considering the fact that yesterday (weekends) was a gold mine weekly event for farming cats, I find your argument that you're farming me for gold to be lackluster.
With a large drop rate booster trait from Yoshimoto or Evolved Dousetsu and perhaps a LUK3+ leader, one can easily get over 200k+ gold in less than a minute for farming a SINGLE 35 Stamina Cat mine.

That is leaps and bounds faster and more efficient than farming a downed guild that only provides around 10k-20k gold per battle where the loading screens usually take longer than the actual fight itself. Now one could argue with "I'm farming you because I already used my stamina." but again, need I remind you that unless you have sooo much time to sink in or simply wish to min-max everything, it is simply not a time-efficient method, especially when even farming Hell mode while constantly leveling up (unless your level already exceeds 80) is a much better way.

I still stick to my original assumption that most of your guild members (I won't say all of you since I saw one or two of your members who are genuinely participating in the GvG instead of taking the cheese way out) are simply there for the easy way out. I highly doubt you're that desperate for a total of 200,000k-400,000k gold by spending all 300BF points on me.

One other reason I simply lost respect for your guild is the fact that before I even made my original post, I can clearly see that plenty of you were obviously trolling by attacking me with Darumas and Foxes in your party (ONLY after the guild is in surrender mode of course) despite the fact that you clearly had enough evolved and godified characters to use. Personally if I were in an equally matched guild and the other team trolls me for it, I probably wouldn't mind as much. But your guild's lack or respect for an opponent simply disgusted me.

It's called "stacking resources" for fights with top guilds. Your math is totally irrelevant here since we're not farming you instead of doing smth else. You are just added to the gold acquisition process. And since we get BF while playing the game we just burn it on the thing that will help us in future vs other guilds if we can afford to do so.

Bout Darumas and Foxes its prolly just ppl having fun. Since it's a game it should be fun. You just take it 2 serious. And you're not smth special it happend before also. If nutaku won't change the matchmaking then you will be farmed/foxed/darumed in future also. Which is just a way of the game and nothing personal.

Also - if I may say so - you should be prepared to be farmed as soon as you decided to run "1 man guild".

Regards