Thread: How to mostly win at Mononofu

I have now verified that the level cap is 65. Your castle cannot go above level 65, which means that no other buildings can go above level 65. That means that you cannot forge gear above level 65, nor can your lab or church/temple skills go above level 65. When buildings are at level 65, rather than saying the stats for the next level on the info screen, it just says ---

Lab and church/temple skills being capped at 65 is pretty much purely theoretical for now, as each level of each skill is going to take something like a week of cooldown. But not being able to forge gear to above level 65 is a considerable limitation. I've already got a lot of gear at level 65, and I'm probably not the only one. For what it's worth, the expected cost to forge a piece of purple gear from level 0 to 65 is about 42 million copper. For a yellow piece of high level gear, it's about 51 million copper.

On the rebellion event (previously the crusader event), I got 48 soul tickets in 6515 victories, which is about 0.74%. If we assume a 1% drop rate, then that is more than two standard deviations below the expected value, so my previous estimate of 1% was probably too high. I got about as many soul tickets from cashing in souls dropped during the event as getting soul tickets directly.

I now think that my Sanada Yukitaka/Tiger of Kai comparison above was actually caused by Sanada Yukitaka's "24 Generals" skill, which increases damage to non-cavalry. I think that that was throwing off my comparison and I didn't realize it.

On the endgame farming drop rates, I've now done opponents 4 through 7 on map 6-4 several hundred times in total. I didn't keep exact counts, but I'm going to estimate that the curse fragment drop rate is around 1% or perhaps a little higher. The two gold ticket drop rate is around 3%. Thus, if you spend 100 koban to get 10 standard rations and burn them all on endgame non-convoy farming, you can expect to get on average about 6 gold tickets or so out of it, in addition to a curse fragment. That makes buying tickets more directly with koban look like a really bad idea unless you're either a whale or care only about the UR drop rate.

In case you're wondering, Temp and Semaphore are the only players who have cleared the campaigns entirely on my server. Nootaku, Aargaez, Vermillion, Arikromus, Nylem, and Rimuru have also cleared the seventh opponent on 6-4. TruelyNice and zantetsuken are the only other players to ever beat an opponent that can drop curse fragments. It is perhaps not a coincidence that I've just named 10 of the top 11 finishers in the rebellion event, with Aqua-chan as the exception.

Quick question since people in this topic seem pretty knowledgeable about the game. Is arena for veterans only?

I can only seem to select the top 500 to view/attack, I'm ranked 42000ish. I've only been playing for about a week so I'm nowhere near the strength of a top 500. It would be nice to do something beside campaign, espicially since I'm starting to hit a wall and I'm not having enough coins to level my castle everyday.

Originally Posted by thatoneguyfromwork

Quick question since people in this topic seem pretty knowledgeable about the game. Is arena for veterans only?

I can only seem to select the top 500 to view/attack, I'm ranked 42000ish. I've only been playing for about a week so I'm nowhere near the strength of a top 500. It would be nice to do something beside campaign, espicially since I'm starting to hit a wall and I'm not having enough coins to level my castle everyday.

Arena has both the daily ladder and a weekly tournament. You should participate in both, for different reasons.

The reasons to participate in the weekly tournament are simple. It costs nothing to enter, but you get 50k copper for participating, plus 100k per match you win. The 50 koban team change fee is if you enter, then later that week decide to change your team. You can enter a completely independent team each week if so inclined. So if you enter, at worst, you get 50k copper for losing your first match. If you're lucky enough to draw an easy opponent or two, you might win more than that.

As for the daily ladder, you should participate in that, too. The goal of the daily ladder is to win ten matches in which you're the attacker, as this gets you two gold tickets. Winning matches where someone else attacks you don't count toward this total. You can only challenge people within ten ranks of your own, but you can challenge below you as well as above. If you challenge someone above you and win, you trade positions in the rankings.

The key to winning at ladder matches is to choose easy opponents. If you challenge someone, you get your offense team, while they get their defense team. For most players, their best generals and their best gear is on their offense team. People commonly don't have any gear equipped at all on their defense team, and sometimes only trot out a single general. The ladder screen will show you the icon of the leader of the defense team of possible opponents. The ranking that shows the full top 500 will show you the level of the leader of the defense team. A level below 35 is a sure sign of an easy opponent.

Ranks 491-500 are volatile, because everyone who isn't ranked can only challenge players in that range. So you'd really like to stay up the top 490 indefinitely. But if you're rank 370 and see that the player who is rank 372 has a level 1 leader on his defense team, you can challenge him ten times in a row, claim your ten wins, claim your two gold tickets, and be done with daily ladder matches for the day.