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  1. #1
    Unregistered Guest
    Oh, and P.S.
    I've now rebirth 6 times at 500, and once at 1000
    I have gotten ZERO fantasy shards from shardkeepers.
    My running total is:

    Fire: 31
    Water: 27
    Earth: 23
    Electric: 23
    Dark: 23
    Light: 22
    Fantasy: 7

    I've got to say that fantasy shards are either intentionally or unintentionally (i.e. it's a bug) not coming from shardkeepers. Unlike all the other shards.

  2. #2
    Underdog Guest
    Nice...

    * Coin and Shards can now be bought for Nutaku Gold and then with Hearts if player owns Ultimate Starter Pack [BALANCE]

    The biggest in-game change is that Coin and Shards boosters are now available for Nutaku Gold (and occassionally dropped by Orbs), or for hearts after purchasing the Ultimate Starter Pack. We thank you for your support and this change is reflective of our long term goals for the game whilst allowing players to get this booster without owning the Ultimate Starter Pack. Coin Boosters are now also dropped by Orbs to ensure that non-paying players can still receive these boosters.

    It's fine, that Coin Booster can now drop of Orbs BUT... why change this things? Buying Coin Booster ONLY with real money just shows, how greedy this is.
    Why not keep the option to still buy boosters with hearts? We "non-paying players" still need to farm hearths, it's not that we get hearth for just play the Game 5min...

    More balance my butt

  3. #3
    Underdog Guest
    and it seems that the Orb spawn rate is decreased...

    I realy hate if ppl talk about "balance" and makes it harder as before playing the Game. Just blablabla to get more money, thats all

  4. #4
    My offline gold earned was -30B

  5. #5
    Teladis Guest

    k

    They just ruined the game with this change. No thanks I am done.

  6. #6
    They realized that as they had structured it, there was really no point in anyone who wasn't a whale paying any money at all. So they changed it so that, for someone who wasn't a whale but was willing to pay a more modest amount of money, the rewards for a one-time payment of $20 are considerable. Unless they change it in a future patch, which they might when you consider today's patch.

    The screw-up was in how they tried to monetize the game initially, as they gave away too much for free. At that point, there wasn't a good fix for it.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Semaphore View Post
    They realized that as they had structured it, there was really no point in anyone who wasn't a whale paying any money at all. So they changed it so that, for someone who wasn't a whale but was willing to pay a more modest amount of money, the rewards for a one-time payment of $20 are considerable. Unless they change it in a future patch, which they might when you consider today's patch.

    The screw-up was in how they tried to monetize the game initially, as they gave away too much for free. At that point, there wasn't a good fix for it.
    I agree. Basically now, there's very little point in playing without the £20 investment - you might as well consider the free gameplay a demo, and the £20 as payment to actually play the game. But the psychology of it is weird to me, is the thing. For twenty bucks I could buy a great indie game, indeed I could buy several for that amount of money. Is this game worth £20 to me? Not really. And yet I'm probably going to buy the Miracle Ticket in Kamihime - but that's £50 for an SSR and basically nothing else: the "value for money" for the ticket is much worse than value for money here, with the starter pack. But I feel that self-justifying buying the ticket is much easier, because it is far more optional, compared to here where playing without access to the coin boost feels to me like it would be so slow as to be pointless. Or maybe it's that I don't want to pay for something that was previously free? I don't know.

    Anyway, I'll watch this game to see if they patch it to make it more reasonable (although I'm not sure how they'd do that), but I'm not actually going to bother playing it anymore until they do.
    Last edited by Locutus; 01-04-2018 at 06:53 PM.

  8. #8
    Unregistered Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog View Post
    It's fine, that Coin Booster can now drop of Orbs BUT... why change this things? Buying Coin Booster ONLY with real money just shows, how greedy this is.
    Why not keep the option to still buy boosters with hearts? We "non-paying players" still need to farm hearths, it's not that we get hearth for just play the Game 5min...
    Because this....

    Quote Originally Posted by Semaphore View Post
    They realized that as they had structured it, there was really no point in anyone who wasn't a whale paying any money at all. So they changed it so that, for someone who wasn't a whale but was willing to pay a more modest amount of money, the rewards for a one-time payment of $20 are considerable. Unless they change it in a future patch, which they might when you consider today's patch.

    The screw-up was in how they tried to monetize the game initially, as they gave away too much for free. At that point, there wasn't a good fix for it.
    I really don't have any sympathy for people that complain about what it is they get for free, particularly in a game where having a large player base doesn't improve the gameplay in any way for the players who do pay. Is it nice when the devs "screw up" and give everything away pretty much for free? Not gonna lie, yes. Am I gonna piss and moan when they do something to at least attempt to make money for their work? Nope.

    Do *I* think this game is worth $20? Not really. I think they're pricing it a tad high. I haven't noticed a single orb since the patch, so whether or not they drop boosters is irrelevant. (not that I got 'em all that often beforehand. I "play" the game on my second monitor, so it's not like I'm all that likely to notice them in the first place)

    (Incidentally, I had assumed the actual monetization scheme was going to involve the Dungeon "events" in some fashion)

  9. #9
    Rager Guest

    ok

    Quote Originally Posted by Teladis View Post
    They just ruined the game with this change. No thanks I am done.
    Add to this. The game is not even that good.

    First off, The art is amazing...but it offers very little reward for such a long tedious clicker.

    Using hearts was the addiction factor that keep it going, getting the boosts and such. Now that is tied for real money.

    The dungeon system I was waiting for to see if it was worth it, but again they made the game even more tedious. now hearts is only good for unlocking slots unless you pay?


    My point is this, The game nerfed the one of the two good things it had going for it. They are suppose to make me addicted so I would feel the need to spend money. They failed to do it, as the game play is not even close to great clickers like clicker hero.


    If you want me to spend money, make the game better. Right now you just ruined it.

  10. #10
    They fixed the bug of ShardKeepers never dropping fantasy shards.

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