choosing a team for yata gass

[bigblackcock]

hey guys, as the title say i want your help with choosing a team for yata gass.
i won't have a problem to clear it up to ultimate mode with my water team, but i'm not confident they can beat ragnarok yet.
so i want to hear your advice on which team and soul i should choose, the soul will be only 1 i have a SSR weapon she can hold.

so let start with my boring water team:
in the pic you may see a letter+number in black, A- attack type, D- defender, number- level of skill weapon.


so here in team i have gabriel to decrease defense+ boost my attack and defense
triton to decrease attack, decrease chance for continuouse attack and self heal+attack and defense boost
nike to increase team defense and heal a little bit
oceanus increase self ability power and high damage to stunned enemy
the 2 souls i may use in this battle is either mordred for her debuffs or siegfried trying to finish her with oceanus+siegfried combo, the question if they'll have 100% burst gauge when she actually get stunned (and if they survive by that time lol)
solomon also can hold glaive, but can't see how she can help better than the other 2..

and for my other option, my strongest team- dark:


so here i have balor that can cast multiple of debuff such as blind, dizzy and stun (?) that may help me survive longer if she won't attack.
satan can decrease her defense (fram A i think) and help me to get her charging down by 1 with her other ability.
susanoo is basically for damage with her first ability and her stackable attack boost
and beelzebub to increase my team's attack+ rampage
for this team there are multiple souls i can use-
Arc- can use her skill to decrease damge for all team when yata gass use her "super move" which may increase my chance to survive+ regeneration to heal a little bit.
Andromeda- healling my team+ can increase defense and revive fallen kamihime in battle.
Siegfried- when yata gass is stunned it can go with either burst attack if my gauge is 100% or if not i can still use her ability to increase damage to stunned enemy and use beelzeub skill to put my team in rampage so the damage will be increased.
mordred- to be honest i'm not sure that i need her in this team for now, i have balor to take care of the debuffs and can use black propaganda as extra skill anyway, so i think the other souls will help me more than her.
solomon- again, can't see how she can help me here either XD

so what do you think? which team should i choose and what soul should i pick?

[Aidoru]

Some things I can make out from the wiki.

Fire enemy
Easier than previous Ragnarok
2 overdrive charge meter
Raging overdrive applies strong def buff on boss. Halves damage?
Normal overdrive applies debuff that prevents you from healing for 5 turns.

Just from a quick glance, your water team is better. Elemental advantage and far more utility (debuffs, Mordred, Eidolon with HP, etc). The only good thing about your dark team vs an Advent Ragnarok is Satan.

But then again, I wouldn't know until we actually get the event.

[bigblackcock]

Some things I can make out from the wiki.

Fire enemy
Easier than previous Ragnarok
2 overdrive charge meter
Raging overdrive applies strong def buff on boss. Halves damage?
Normal overdrive applies debuff that prevents you from healing for 5 turns.

Just from a quick glance, your water team is better. Elemental advantage and far more utility (debuffs, Mordred, Eidolon with HP, etc). The only good thing about your dark team vs an Advent Ragnarok is Satan.

But then again, I wouldn't know until we actually get the event.

so it's better to make her use her overdrive skill when she isn't raging as she won't be a tank, althogh i won't be able to heal for a while?
i see, so water team would be better fo it, though i think they may still struggle a bit there, but as you said we won't know till we get the event

This is a little off topic but still pertains to team composition and Ultimate difficulty clearance.

In Yata Garasu advent event, DMM first implemented Event Missions. Out of the numerous rewards, the hardest mission, "clearing Ultimate difficulty with only himes rarity R or below", has the best reward of a Dragon Eye shard piece. Are you planning about it?

As for your original question, if I were you I would search up DMM wiki to see the damage range of Yata Garasu. If she has high damage Rage burst or something similar, I would go for the Water team, just to capitalize on the natural elemental resistance.

to be honest, i knew that we'll have those event task at some point, but didn't knew when it'll be first introduced so it wasn't on my mind.
though if it's ultimate with R hime it should be fine, as long as i can use legendary soul and my SSR weapons&eidolon.

ok, so from what I've saw, her raging damage doesn't deal as much damage as I thought.. under 2k for all allies it seems? but that's with her atk lowered, which should be easy..mordred+jorm/triton
use your water team for sure.. use mordred, as she can use her max overdrive meter thing and debuff defense without an extra skill, gabriel have the 2nd def debuff, use chaos magic as extra skill but not til she's raging ofc, cause it will clear yatagas' def buff to herself after her strong atk or if she increases her def with normal atk in rage mode...it's a strong buff so your damage will lower a lot.. that only if she use it twice though.
remember gabriel increase burst gauge for allies with each hit, unlike any dark kami, nike healing will make sure they all survive til she's stunned, so you can use oceanus for a strong burst though i'm sure without nike you could survive anyway.. as it is for now, try to get more of the ATK weapon like you did with the gun, not that it matters too much... you can win with both dark and water for sure without using elixers but try with water, i don't think it'll be hard at all... i will try ragnarok this time, hopefully we can both win
why not try both and record both? XD

is mordred attack and def debuff are frame b? if so then like you said i can have her with 2 debuff as soon as the battle start.
i'll try to get more of that water glaive, but i also need to level up their skill as my current 1 have level 2 skill (well, it's kinda new lol)
i wouldn't be so sure if i can bet her "easy" with both teams as i never battled her and never saw her in action, so maybe i'll start with water team as we can challenge it only once a day so if i fail it's a lost of that green material.

[Kitty]

is mordred attack and def debuff are frame b? if so then like you said i can have her with 2 debuff as soon as the battle start.
i'll try to get more of that water glaive, but i also need to level up their skill as my current 1 have level 2 skill (well, it's kinda new lol)
i wouldn't be so sure if i can bet her "easy" with both teams as i never battled her and never saw her in action, so maybe i'll start with water team as we can challenge it only once a day so if i fail it's a lost of that green material.

yes, it's frame b atk/def -10%
good luck with finding more of the glaive, shouldn't be hard to level the skills though, and since we're just farming for weapon materials at this point in the union event we can level them easily
but, i know one thing... i've read a little about it in the wiki, and also saw a battle of ragnarok by a guy that's not much stronger than myself, and i'm pretty confident after watching how the battle is.. he didn't lose anyone in this battle. you're much stronger than me, so if i can do it, you can.. but yea, start with water team, and if you feel like it, attempt it with your dark team... if you think you'll fail(which i doubt), just quit the battle and it won't count as a loss at least we know the ultimate battles will be a piece of cake, and with the amount of elixer/half elixers you have, you don't even have to use them all to get all the rewards XD i hope you can complete ragnarok each day
but as it is now...preparing for the event, you can join any of my water raid if you want and have the bp spare ^_^

[bigblackcock]

yes, it's frame b atk/def -10%
good luck with finding more of the glaive, shouldn't be hard to level the skills though, and since we're just farming for weapon materials at this point in the union event we can level them easily
but, i know one thing... i've read a little about it in the wiki, and also saw a battle of ragnarok by a guy that's not much stronger than myself, and i'm pretty confident after watching how the battle is.. he didn't lose anyone in this battle. you're much stronger than me, so if i can do it, you can.. but yea, start with water team, and if you feel like it, attempt it with your dark team... if you think you'll fail(which i doubt), just quit the battle and it won't count as a loss at least we know the ultimate battles will be a piece of cake, and with the amount of elixer/half elixers you have, you don't even have to use them all to get all the rewards XD i hope you can complete ragnarok each day
but as it is now...preparing for the event, you can join any of my water raid if you want and have the bp spare ^_^

for now i have 120 half elixers which is 3 times more than i usually have and manage to MLB both weapon and eidolon, so no problem here.
well, she does sounds easier, but i'll have to fight her first and see it with my own eyes :O

I'm simply pointing out how to retrieve information about future events that's (more likely to be) accurate. My guild leader made the same mistake, resulting in wasted time and energy discussing bad info. Even after I pointed this out here, you can see that others persisted in discussing the (likely wrong) info.

To reiterate for those not following this conversation:
The Japanese wiki has a "backup" link that allows you to view past versions of each page. This is invaluable for obtaining snapshots of each event page BEFORE THE REVIVAL, after which rewards and features were often adjusted. These pre-revival versions are likely to match the event when it appears on Nutaku, though we also know that Nutaku may not incorporate revival adjustments even during revivals (see Apocalypse and Phoenix revival rewards).

so those reward events won't start with yata gass event? ok, you have an idea to when they actually do start then?
even if i'll check the wiki by myself i may get the wrong info as well lol
also, i'm pretty sure thay you can tell me the answer so i'll ask it too, how much bonus elemental advantage get? is it X1.5 or X2 of the original damage?

[sanahtlig]

so those reward events won't start with yata gass event? ok, you have an idea to when they actually do start then?
even if i'll check the wiki by myself i may get the wrong info as well lol
also, i'm pretty sure thay you can tell me the answer so i'll ask it too, how much bonus elemental advantage get? is it X1.5 or X2 of the original damage?

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Event missions for Advents should start around late October for us.

The elemental advantage bonus is +45-48% elemental damage. But since it stacks additively with eidolon elemental effects, the actual effect on overall DPS will vary.

[Unregistered]

yes, it's frame b atk/def -10%
good luck with finding more of the glaive, shouldn't be hard to level the skills though, and since we're just farming for weapon materials at this point in the union event we can level them easily
but, i know one thing... i've read a little about it in the wiki, and also saw a battle of ragnarok by a guy that's not much stronger than myself, and i'm pretty confident after watching how the battle is.. he didn't lose anyone in this battle. you're much stronger than me, so if i can do it, you can.. but yea, start with water team, and if you feel like it, attempt it with your dark team... if you think you'll fail(which i doubt), just quit the battle and it won't count as a loss at least we know the ultimate battles will be a piece of cake, and with the amount of elixer/half elixers you have, you don't even have to use them all to get all the rewards XD i hope you can complete ragnarok each day
but as it is now...preparing for the event, you can join any of my water raid if you want and have the bp spare ^_^

You can do that for advdent ragnarok? please explain how its done please!

[Inb4whales]

Not sure why you said "Yata Gas" but I'm pretty sure failgle translate is to be blamed here.

Sorry for being a grammar Nazi but it should be Yatagarasu, the three legged crow.


I mean we're talking about Google translate that translated "Hastur" as "A Bus" afterall...

[Kitty]

You can do that for advdent ragnarok? please explain how its done please!

how you quit the battle just like every other battle... if you know you're likely to die then before you die completely just give up and you can attempt it again?

[noxybell]

This is a little off topic but still pertains to team composition and Ultimate difficulty clearance.

In Yata Garasu advent event, DMM first implemented Event Missions. Out of the numerous rewards, the hardest mission, "clearing Ultimate difficulty with only himes rarity R or below", has the best reward of a Dragon Eye shard piece. Are you planning about it?

As for your original question, if I were you I would search up DMM wiki to see the damage range of Yata Garasu. If she has high damage Rage burst or something similar, I would go for the Water team, just to capitalize on the natural elemental resistance.