Thread: Feedback on my starting out strat

leanne is actually a pretty good heavy , and will outperform the likes of garret (which is a gold heavy for example). Even if u got a bernice/gellius at the start , you will still need a cc-ed leanne , since there are events that require 2 heavies at least. You could also use a bernard , but he has around 50 or 60 less defense then a leanne (he has 200-300 more hp tho , so its a better magic tank) , but male units are harder to max aff

http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/...y:Heavy_Armors
This table says not the same thing. In the end leanne outperform only bernard. But for starters yeah we have only 1 choice, frankly.

I think lolix meant purely defence wise, which is the main role for heavy armors.

You mustn't forget +aff bonus and active skill. Both of which are defensive for lee-anne.
Thats why she is the popular choice till you get plats or bernice.

Appreciate all the feedback. I did consider doing the reroll after 5SC option but decided I didn't want to spend the time doing it.

heavies ability to tank is what matters the most for their role. In those regards , leanne is quite good , outperforming both bernard , and garret , and even marribel before her skill usage. Hell , maribel (which during her skill duration is comparable to a black unit) , will have 341 base defense X 2 = 682. Leanne , has 426 base armor , and assuming max skill level (you most likely won't have max skill level for a silver , but just for argument's sake , let's assume you do) will have extra 60%. That means 426 + 255,6 = 681,6. That is equal defense to marribel during her skill duration.



Ofc maribel gets also increased attack , and has naturally more hp , but in pure raw defense ability , leanne is right up there. Actually during her skill duration , she has more defense then even deine , but deine's is permanent (since she doesn't uses a skill) , and has monster like amounts of hp. The only heavies that can get more defense during their skill duration then leanne are gellius (which is the best heavy in the game for tanking purposes) and Bernice (which is the second tank in pure armor , during skill duration)


In conclusion leanne is a pretty good heavy , and even a maxed silver can be usefull , since it's cheaper and can be deployed faster then higher rarities. Also , since we're talking heavies , their role is to tank strong enemies , or purely be there for the block. Their dps is not important. This is the reason why garret is probably the worst heavy in the game

I feel like that level of Garret hate is taking role fixation a bit too far. Garrett is basically Super Crave and that's actually pretty decent on maps that are heavy on stuff like wolves and archers. Leeanne has excellent mitigation for a silver but I have a hard time putting her head and shoulders above Garret given her modest effective health total and how little help she provides against rushes. So while I'll grant you that Garret's niche is somewhat non-traditional I'd argue that he fills it nicely whereas Leeanne's tier and single-minded devotion to mitigation based tanking means that she has a really hard time sticking around once you've acquired a Bernice.

For shits and giggles I decided to do a new account using the kickstarter strat. I ran it 10 times (And yeesh took me almost 2 hours). Here are the 10 crappy units I got.

1. Sanosuke
2. Harissa
3. Eunice
4. Phyllis
5. Stella
6. Harissa
7. Marnie
8. Stella
9. Dorca (Seriously?)
10 Mortimer (Ok now I am being trolled.)

So I have to say if you are not drunk and bored DO NOT do the kickstarter strat since you have to click so much you can't even AFK it to maybe watch something.

Originally Posted by kayfabe

I feel like that level of Garret hate is taking role fixation a bit too far. Garrett is basically Super Crave and that's actually pretty decent on maps that are heavy on stuff like wolves and archers. Leeanne has excellent mitigation for a silver but I have a hard time putting her head and shoulders above Garret given her modest effective health total and how little help she provides against rushes. So while I'll grant you that Garret's niche is somewhat non-traditional I'd argue that he fills it nicely whereas Leeanne's tier and single-minded devotion to mitigation based tanking means that she has a really hard time sticking around once you've acquired a Bernice.

eh, Garret is my main tank, yeah he is very useful for enemy rush like those automatas at Rika's event
well there will be plat event HA that have offensive skill too though, Garret will be more sidelined by then

Originally Posted by Masterwolf

For shits and giggles I decided to do a new account using the kickstarter strat. I ran it 10 times (And yeesh took me almost 2 hours). Here are the 10 crappy units I got.

1. Sanosuke
2. Harissa
3. Eunice
4. Phyllis
5. Stella
6. Harissa
7. Marnie
8. Stella
9. Dorca (Seriously?)
10 Mortimer (Ok now I am being trolled.)

So I have to say if you are not drunk and bored DO NOT do the kickstarter strat since you have to click so much you can't even AFK it to maybe watch something.

at least there is 1 gold and 1 plat at your list lol

Originally Posted by Masterwolf

For shits and giggles I decided to do a new account using the kickstarter strat. I ran it 10 times (And yeesh took me almost 2 hours). Here are the 10 crappy units I got.

1. Sanosuke
2. Harissa
3. Eunice
4. Phyllis
5. Stella
6. Harissa
7. Marnie
8. Stella
9. Dorca (Seriously?)
10 Mortimer (Ok now I am being trolled.)

So I have to say if you are not drunk and bored DO NOT do the kickstarter strat since you have to click so much you can't even AFK it to maybe watch something.

Looks like a statistically average roll. Although the purpose of rerolling is to get the "special start" and marinie is a pretty sucky plat starter.

Its all about trade-off, are you willing to commit at least 10 hours of hardcore rerolling for a better start in a game which you might not want to fully commit to?
Or follow the game as intended and have some fun, because you'll eventually get good units one way or another.

I am slightly biased towards normal play, but if you already rolled 5 times and got nothing but silver. You might wanna reroll. If you saved up your SCs for a better stamp card then there is no need. (delayed gratification is not a common trait amongst gamers)

Anyway, people who start this week will get a good advantage regardless of rolls because they get a free plat princess along with the premium rolls.

Originally Posted by Masterwolf

For shits and giggles I decided to do a new account using the kickstarter strat. I ran it 10 times (And yeesh took me almost 2 hours). Here are the 10 crappy units I got.

1. Sanosuke
2. Harissa
3. Eunice
4. Phyllis
5. Stella
6. Harissa
7. Marnie
8. Stella
9. Dorca (Seriously?)
10 Mortimer (Ok now I am being trolled.)

So I have to say if you are not drunk and bored DO NOT do the kickstarter strat since you have to click so much you can't even AFK it to maybe watch something.

So you got an average but not very good list. When i did 45sc shrine summoning, got 2 plats and 4 gold, and another gold from piece of crystals (%5 probability ) i didnt thought i'd make a luckier account more than this and stayed with this one, you should be aiming like this if you are a hardcore kickstarter (you call it like this?) like me. But you can do like what buttlover said and play it with intended way, there is an event going on which gives you a very good unit so its up you in the end but dont miss the event.