Thread: Fap CEO

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't spend your gems on double share, I did that mistake before but now I just sell my company very quickly to get shares, it's way faster than trying to get a lot of shares at once.

I'd say save your gems for multiplier and if you're near the next tier wait until you cross it before buying multiplier since you can get some with the event and wheel.

This is not good advice. I've been playing the stock market for 3 weeks on a single company run and if I sell right now at 2x with my current modifiers I will get 7,200,000,000 shares. I'm waiting for 10b shares. If I take out all of my modifiers it would be closer to 1,000,000,000 shares with 2x but it's scaling very fast at this point. I have 32,450 level ups and 7.28x10^177 in my bank. The stock market will give you steady exponential growth that scales with the girls, while stock growth is exponential as well, not linear. I'd bank that money and do one long run before they patch this.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And there's a trick to improve your odds of success in the event, record the shuffling and then replay frame by frame, it's possible to see where some of the cards went. It's not 100% accurate but it helps quite a bit.

While I'm at it, another nice trick (I'm on pc, no idea if it works on browser/mobile): when discovering a new decoration, wait for the auto save then discover it, if it's not what you want quickly close the game and you can retry

This is very helpful, thank you!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is not good advice. I've been playing the stock market for 3 weeks on a single company run and if I sell right now at 2x with my current modifiers I will get 7,200,000,000 shares. I'm waiting for 10b shares. If I take out all of my modifiers it would be closer to 1,000,000,000 shares with 2x but it's scaling very fast at this point. I have 32,450 level ups and 7.28x10^177 in my bank. The stock market will give you steady exponential growth that scales with the girls, while stock growth is exponential as well, not linear. I'd bank that money and do one long run before they patch this!

How active do you have to play the stock market though?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How active do you have to play the stock market though?

it took me (not the guy you where quoting) about 2.5 months to max the girls (56750 levelups), others reported similar time investment. go pack to page ~105 there is some calculation how long this takes. It took me around 2500 trades.

Regarding gems to double shares: #1 rule for gems: those are for buying multipliers. there are some rare exceptions. of course you double your shares, after a 2months stock run. also might be usefull if you bought 22 decos and got no neon. or double shares for very low company levels seem also OK for me if you are struggling with the levelups.
But generally, rule #1 applies ;-)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is not good advice. I've been playing the stock market for 3 weeks on a single company run and if I sell right now at 2x with my current modifiers I will get 7,200,000,000 shares. I'm waiting for 10b shares. If I take out all of my modifiers it would be closer to 1,000,000,000 shares with 2x but it's scaling very fast at this point. I have 32,450 level ups and 7.28x10^177 in my bank. The stock market will give you steady exponential growth that scales with the girls, while stock growth is exponential as well, not linear. I'd bank that money and do one long run before they patch this.

Tbh... it probably depend on how you play, I'm at a point where I can do roughly 6.5*10^6 with 10k levels (neons +9x and +4x from the ceo items) very quickly so I prefer that.
This way I can upgrade something by playing a bit which in turn speeds up my share farming. So idk if it's slower but it's more enjoyable for me.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tbh... it probably depend on how you play, I'm at a point where I can do roughly 6.5*10^6 with 10k levels (neons +9x and +4x from the ceo items) very quickly so I prefer that.
This way I can upgrade something by playing a bit which in turn speeds up my share farming. So idk if it's slower but it's more enjoyable for me.

dont get me wrong, doing a stock run to max the girls requires a serious investment of time and deication. probably much more than a game like this deserves.

However, if you want to max the decorations (except the neon), doing a long stock market run is the only way. even if you do millions of fast runs, you will not get closly to the shares that a long stocks run give which you would need to max the decorations.

If you have too much money (actual real dollars), you can speed up this 2-3months stockrun by boosting the stocks with gems. i heard from some one doing it in a week investing something like 1000 rubies for stockmarket boosts.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

dont get me wrong, doing a stock run to max the girls requires a serious investment of time and deication. probably much more than a game like this deserves.

However, if you want to max the decorations (except the neon), doing a long stock market run is the only way. even if you do millions of fast runs, you will not get closly to the shares that a long stocks run give which you would need to max the decorations.

If you have too much money (actual real dollars), you can speed up this 2-3months stockrun by boosting the stocks with gems. i heard from some one doing it in a week investing something like 1000 rubies for stockmarket boosts.

For now have:
- neon lvl 50 (upgrade last night)
- lamp lvl 88
- vase lvl 73
- the 3 deco to boost my main girl at 75/76

With the neon upgrade + I played to the event for a while yesterday (my multiplier went through 2 levels I think xD) now I'm at 11.6*10^6 for the same amount of time and still have a lot of tickets so I'll continue improving my multiplier. I guess I'll see if I hit a wall at some point.
Also I've automated my share farming this way I can let it run while I'm not on the computer, so for me it's a lot more convenient too ^^

My advice was good if your goal is to maximize the long term profit impact of your gems.

Spending gems on stock doubling to upgrade decorations does increase your income, but they're heavily effected by diminishing returns. Every upgrade costs more, and gives you less of a relative benefit, than the previous upgrade. By the time you get a decoration up to about level 60, you'll be spending millions of stocks for its next upgrade but seeing extremely little change in revenue from the purchase.

The store multiplier effectively has zero diminishing returns. No matter what your current store level is, spending 300 gems on the multiplier there always has a noticeable impact on your revenue. You get huge bumps in value every time you upgrade the store to the next level (which is, what, four or five 300gem upgrades?). The Store Multiplier is the single most significant factor that governs how far you'll get in tournaments.

A gem is always a gem, its value is determined by how you use it. The value of a girl's level (her worth in stocks when you sell) is NOT fixed, every level a girl has is worth more stock than the previous level. When you "double shares" you're essentially multiplying 10gems*GirlValue. If your GirlValue is a relatively small number, you aren't getting much benefit from gems spent on them. There are stronger ways to use gems.

It might help to think about "double shares" in relation to time. If you start a company, play for an hour, and then sell you might get 1 million shares. You can spend 10 gems to double that, meaning you gained a measly 1 hour of benefit for 10 gems. If you do that for 8 hours a day, you will quickly get to the point that selling a company after 1 hour doesn't come close to giving you enough stock to upgrade anything. You'll also run out of gems, or spend a buttload of real money buying more of them.

Even if you set up a complex macro to play for you (so it automatically assigns girls, clicks/upgrades for an hour, sells the company for double shares, and then starts over) it would take decades of continuous "play" for that method to gain enough stocks to max everything out. You'd be getting almost nothing from all the gems you spend doubling shares.

Yesterday when I posted to this thread I had 51500 total level ups, which yields 881.83 e9 shares.
Right this second I have 53650 total level ups, which yields 1.68 e12 shares (I can double it to 3.36 e12).

Those are real numbers taken from my game.
I gained 2K levels over the course of a day, yielding another 800 e9 shares (without gems).

Let's pretend that you have unlimited gems at your disposal for stock doubling. How many years do you think it would take you to get 800 BILLION shares, which I did in one day, by quick-selling your company hundreds of thousands of times? More than a year, right? Probably lots of years.

How long would it take you to match the 4-5 TRILLION shares I expect to claim later today, or maybe tomorrow at the latest?

Not millions, that's chump change.
Not billions, that's just small bills.
TRILLIONS are needed to max out your decorations.

The math doesn't lie. Quick sales can feel good when you don't have many decos and nothing is expensive to upgrade. In the beginning of your CEO career it might make sense to double shares after playing for a couple of days, but in the long run you're dramatically slowing your progress if you continue spending most of your gems on double shares.

Yes, I will spend for double shares when I finally finish this run. Those 10 gems will be gaining me 2 months of dedicated work, they're unquestionably worth the cost.

I do not expect to ever spend another gem on stocks after this run, because the only decoration I won't have completely maxed out is the neon sign. It won't be worth stressing over that hyper-expensive sign when there's nothing else to spend stocks on

Once my decos are done, I will be putting every gem into the Store Multiplier until I'm able to hit level 15 in the tournament (I got to 12500 last weekend). That's the final major milestone in my book, because it maximizes the amount of extra stuff I get for free every week.

After I can hit 15 in tournaments gems become a toy, because there's no real benefit to increasing my income further. That's when I'll start using gems for additional outfits and other things that aren't guaranteed to help my income.

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

Yesterday when I posted to this thread I had 51500 total level ups, which yields 881.83 e9 shares.
Right this second I have 53650 total level ups, which yields 1.68 e12 shares (I can double it to 3.36 e12).

Those are real numbers taken from my game.
I gained 2K levels over the course of a day, yielding another 800 e9 shares (without gems).

Let's pretend that you have unlimited gems at your disposal for stock doubling. How many years do you think it would take you to get 800 BILLION shares, which I did in one day, by quick-selling your company hundreds of thousands of times? More than a year, right? Probably lots of years.

How long would it take you to match the 4-5 TRILLION shares I expect to claim later today, or maybe tomorrow at the latest?

At the rate I'm going right now, it'd take me 16.3 days doing that non stop to get 800*10^9 using my program (which is just a "smart" auto clicker basically), without doubling shares or using boosters, but that's assuming I'm not improving my decorations or gaining multiplier during that period.
And it'll decrease fast since I'm gaining multipliers fast with the even too.
But I'm most likely an outlier

So no I won't spend months to make one big sell it'd quit the game long before reaching the max level for all girls, but I get why some of you do that, I just don't see any fun in that.

PS: I created an account, it'll be more practical to keep track of who says what, and I can edit my messages if want ^^

Originally Posted by sharon

At the rate I'm going right now, it'd take me 16.3 days doing that non stop to get 800*10^9 using my program (which is just a "smart" auto clicker basically), without doubling shares or using boosters, but that's assuming I'm not improving my decorations or gaining multiplier during that period.
And it'll decrease fast since I'm gaining multipliers fast with the even too.
But I'm most likely an outlier

So no I won't spend months to make one big sell it'd quit the game long before reaching the max level for all girls, but I get why some of you do that, I just don't see any fun in that.

PS: I created an account, it'll be more practical to keep track of who says what, and I can edit my messages if want ^^

how much shares do you get after selling your company?

Originally Posted by diavolo666

how much shares do you get after selling your company?

Right now 17.3*10^6, with almost 12.3k levels