Thread: Fap CEO

My advice was good if your goal is to maximize the long term profit impact of your gems.

Spending gems on stock doubling to upgrade decorations does increase your income, but they're heavily effected by diminishing returns. Every upgrade costs more, and gives you less of a relative benefit, than the previous upgrade. By the time you get a decoration up to about level 60, you'll be spending millions of stocks for its next upgrade but seeing extremely little change in revenue from the purchase.

The store multiplier effectively has zero diminishing returns. No matter what your current store level is, spending 300 gems on the multiplier there always has a noticeable impact on your revenue. You get huge bumps in value every time you upgrade the store to the next level (which is, what, four or five 300gem upgrades?). The Store Multiplier is the single most significant factor that governs how far you'll get in tournaments.

A gem is always a gem, its value is determined by how you use it. The value of a girl's level (her worth in stocks when you sell) is NOT fixed, every level a girl has is worth more stock than the previous level. When you "double shares" you're essentially multiplying 10gems*GirlValue. If your GirlValue is a relatively small number, you aren't getting much benefit from gems spent on them. There are stronger ways to use gems.

It might help to think about "double shares" in relation to time. If you start a company, play for an hour, and then sell you might get 1 million shares. You can spend 10 gems to double that, meaning you gained a measly 1 hour of benefit for 10 gems. If you do that for 8 hours a day, you will quickly get to the point that selling a company after 1 hour doesn't come close to giving you enough stock to upgrade anything. You'll also run out of gems, or spend a buttload of real money buying more of them.

Even if you set up a complex macro to play for you (so it automatically assigns girls, clicks/upgrades for an hour, sells the company for double shares, and then starts over) it would take decades of continuous "play" for that method to gain enough stocks to max everything out. You'd be getting almost nothing from all the gems you spend doubling shares.

Yesterday when I posted to this thread I had 51500 total level ups, which yields 881.83 e9 shares.
Right this second I have 53650 total level ups, which yields 1.68 e12 shares (I can double it to 3.36 e12).

Those are real numbers taken from my game.
I gained 2K levels over the course of a day, yielding another 800 e9 shares (without gems).

Let's pretend that you have unlimited gems at your disposal for stock doubling. How many years do you think it would take you to get 800 BILLION shares, which I did in one day, by quick-selling your company hundreds of thousands of times? More than a year, right? Probably lots of years.

How long would it take you to match the 4-5 TRILLION shares I expect to claim later today, or maybe tomorrow at the latest?

Not millions, that's chump change.
Not billions, that's just small bills.
TRILLIONS are needed to max out your decorations.

The math doesn't lie. Quick sales can feel good when you don't have many decos and nothing is expensive to upgrade. In the beginning of your CEO career it might make sense to double shares after playing for a couple of days, but in the long run you're dramatically slowing your progress if you continue spending most of your gems on double shares.

Yes, I will spend for double shares when I finally finish this run. Those 10 gems will be gaining me 2 months of dedicated work, they're unquestionably worth the cost.

I do not expect to ever spend another gem on stocks after this run, because the only decoration I won't have completely maxed out is the neon sign. It won't be worth stressing over that hyper-expensive sign when there's nothing else to spend stocks on

Once my decos are done, I will be putting every gem into the Store Multiplier until I'm able to hit level 15 in the tournament (I got to 12500 last weekend). That's the final major milestone in my book, because it maximizes the amount of extra stuff I get for free every week.

After I can hit 15 in tournaments gems become a toy, because there's no real benefit to increasing my income further. That's when I'll start using gems for additional outfits and other things that aren't guaranteed to help my income.

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

Yesterday when I posted to this thread I had 51500 total level ups, which yields 881.83 e9 shares.
Right this second I have 53650 total level ups, which yields 1.68 e12 shares (I can double it to 3.36 e12).

Those are real numbers taken from my game.
I gained 2K levels over the course of a day, yielding another 800 e9 shares (without gems).

Let's pretend that you have unlimited gems at your disposal for stock doubling. How many years do you think it would take you to get 800 BILLION shares, which I did in one day, by quick-selling your company hundreds of thousands of times? More than a year, right? Probably lots of years.

How long would it take you to match the 4-5 TRILLION shares I expect to claim later today, or maybe tomorrow at the latest?

At the rate I'm going right now, it'd take me 16.3 days doing that non stop to get 800*10^9 using my program (which is just a "smart" auto clicker basically), without doubling shares or using boosters, but that's assuming I'm not improving my decorations or gaining multiplier during that period.
And it'll decrease fast since I'm gaining multipliers fast with the even too.
But I'm most likely an outlier

So no I won't spend months to make one big sell it'd quit the game long before reaching the max level for all girls, but I get why some of you do that, I just don't see any fun in that.

PS: I created an account, it'll be more practical to keep track of who says what, and I can edit my messages if want ^^

Originally Posted by sharon

At the rate I'm going right now, it'd take me 16.3 days doing that non stop to get 800*10^9 using my program (which is just a "smart" auto clicker basically), without doubling shares or using boosters, but that's assuming I'm not improving my decorations or gaining multiplier during that period.
And it'll decrease fast since I'm gaining multipliers fast with the even too.
But I'm most likely an outlier

So no I won't spend months to make one big sell it'd quit the game long before reaching the max level for all girls, but I get why some of you do that, I just don't see any fun in that.

PS: I created an account, it'll be more practical to keep track of who says what, and I can edit my messages if want ^^

how much shares do you get after selling your company?

Originally Posted by diavolo666

how much shares do you get after selling your company?

Right now 17.3*10^6, with almost 12.3k levels

Originally Posted by sharon

Right now 17.3*10^6, with almost 12.3k levels

You would have to sell your company 15600 times at this tempo to max all (except neon) decorations since you need 0.27+e12 shares to do that.
Upgrading your decorations along the way doesn't really help at getting more shares. I went from 11500 levels (in tournament) to 13003 after I max all my decorations (last 200 levels took me 8 hours).

Originally Posted by diavolo666

You would have to sell your company 15600 times at this tempo to max all (except neon) decorations since you need 0.27+e12 shares to do that.
Upgrading your decorations along the way doesn't really help at getting more shares. I went from 11500 levels (in tournament) to 13003 after I max all my decorations (last 200 levels took me 8 hours).

Right now my biggest boost is the multiplier increase, but before upgrading my decorations allowed me to either get more share/level with the neon or upgrading anything improving my income can either speed up the process (I'm probably at or near the limit now) or get more level for the same time which increase the shares I get.

But are you sure of your maths ? Because 15600 might seem like a lot but it wouldn't take me a week selling the company 24/7.

Originally Posted by sharon

Right now my biggest boost is the multiplier increase, but before upgrading my decorations allowed me to either get more share/level with the neon or upgrading anything improving my income can either speed up the process (I'm probably at or near the limit now) or get more level for the same time which increase the shares I get.

But are you sure of your maths ? Because 15600 might seem like a lot but it wouldn't take me a week selling the company 24/7.

I personally spend 0.27+e12 shares to max my decorations (already had 20 at let say 26-30 level)
You get (17.3*10^6) 1.73+e7

0.27+e12 / 1.73+e7 = 15606.93 * minutes you need to sell your company = ________

Originally Posted by sharon

At the rate I'm going right now, it'd take me 16.3 days doing that non stop to get 800*10^9 using my program

Cool. I underestimated the power of automation a bit, but you still proved my point. Even with a program running nonstop to play for you, it'd take you 16 days to get what I earned in 1 day. That's in a perfect world, where your script never screws up and you never get disconnected from the game when you aren't watching the screen.

We can guesstimate that you'd need a bit over a month to hit the total shares I had, yesterday. I should at least double my base shares again when I hit the end, if not a little more. Even with perfect automation you're not going to get to the "end" faster.

I assume that you're tying up a computer to run your autoclick script. I'm not, I keep the game running on a side monitor to trade while I'm working. I'll occasionally pop in on my phone, if I happen to be out of the house and have a couple of minutes free. I'd hate to really play that way, but it's just fine for stock trades. Tournaments don't interrupt my progress, I can give them full effort (and earn rewards) without gimping my stock run.

Playing the stock market is not a bad way to max out your decorations. For a majority of people I think it's the most realistic way.

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

Cool. I underestimated the power of automation a bit, but you still proved my point. Even with a program running nonstop to play for you, it'd take you 16 days to get what I earned in 1 day.

That's a bit misleading though, because you've had a lot of build up to get to that point.

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

That's in a perfect world, where your script never screws up and you never get disconnected from the game when you aren't watching the screen.

I do have logging back in built in the program, but since a few weeks it takes a lot of time for me to log back in (my bandwidth is crap and the game seems to load a lot of things when logging in :/)
But at this point half the fun for me is improving my program x)

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

We can guesstimate that you'd need a bit over a month to hit the total shares I had, yesterday. I should at least double my base shares again when I hit the end, if not a little more. Even with perfect automation you're not going to get to the "end" faster.

You keep forgetting that it gets faster as I upgrade things ^^
But even if it's slower that's more fun for me so that's the most important and I don't particularly plan on maxing out everything.

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

I assume that you're tying up a computer to run your autoclick script. I'm not, I keep the game running on a side monitor to trade while I'm working. I'll occasionally pop in on my phone, if I happen to be out of the house and have a couple of minutes free. I'd hate to really play that way, but it's just fine for stock trades. Tournaments don't interrupt my progress, I can give them full effort (and earn rewards) without gimping my stock run.

Currently yes, I tried to get around that but the game needs to be focused so I usually let it run during the night or simply when I'm not using the computer.
I might try to see if I can trick the game into thinking it's focused though.
At first I thought about automating the stock trade btw ^^

Originally Posted by Wolfwere

Playing the stock market is not a bad way to max out your decorations. For a majority of people I think it's the most realistic way.

That's true, though I think it might probably better to do some quick sell for a while before doing a long run to upgrade the neon at least.

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