Thread: Flower Knight Tactica

Originally Posted by game2534

Our madness Yandere girl has x2 skill activation, but like your detective girl, she needed to be attacked for the skill to kicked in. So unless we face boss with multi attack, this skill will most likely just there since Saffron or Nightmaher need provoction to reach their maximum potential. So normal attack won't hit Royal Water Lily at all.

My choice for dodge ball team would be
Saffron, Nightmaher, Iono, Perslane, and Easter Cactus

The first two are obvious with best skill combination.

Iono because skill boost, double act, and most important... her SD is cute.
Perslane because dodge and heal, allowed for long drawn out battle.
Easter Cactus doesn't have dodge, but she got resurrection with 50% heal for 3 members once she got knocked out. Very valuable in broken map IMO.

Note that I prefer defensive play style. So my set up is more of a 'test of endurance' more than 'crush them all' (Crit team however, would aim for damage purely)

Good that you already tackled some of the harder maps out there.

Well since there aren't that much multi attackers as i thought Myrdin should scratch my idea. Sry bro

Like you said best girl would be: x2 Skill Act for the whole group after being attacked, Dodge, Counter and Self Heal attack^^

oh... this thread... super long... talking like myself didn't start any long thread hahahaha.

Interesting take on it, but I have one problem with Perslane - Her setup is more tuned towards Crit. teams, since she boost Crit damage as well as chance, and while yes she can dodge, and heal - her Healing has only 30% to activate.

Now I got Soap chan who has Self heal 30% and I must say it ticks pretty often, and heals her up for about 5430 hp or soo, and thats pretty good, so yeah Perslane has this effect for the whole team which seems pretty good, especially in combination with Phoenix chans resurect.
But I must say I am not a big fan of her. She is a one trick pony, and the rest of her skills is mediocre at best (understandably so, since her Revive is very powerful).

Now This strategy would be amazing with a pure Counter Team, or Full Counter/Evade team. But since only Saffron and Nightmaher have Counter and Evade, I find it a bit lacking, as you do not have any real means of damage, and since you are not countering with majority of your team the enemy will not kill itself on you so easily. Thus the healing becomes a bit piontless. Again it would be great in full Counter team, but we dont have that option.
with Iono and Freesia, you get 40% to do a second attack, and that second attacks also applies all Skill Activation modifiers.
I have seen my Protea carry my team so many times due to her taking double turns every now and then.
And its a bigger chance than the 30% AoE heal.

Granted I am the type of player who tends to build up his forces and then strike in one decimating assault, not purely rushing, nor purely turtling either.

I was thinking maybe Red Spider Lily might be Good, her skill buffing the squad by number of enemies - I am not sure though if this buff is applied BEFORE the attacks, or AFTER, and also if its only 1turn effect.
If its BEFORE and lasts the whole combat, we are looking at 35% extra damage on top of everything else the team has going on, compensating a lot for the weak offensive of this team due to its defensive nature. And if it lasts until the end of the combat even better.
Granted its weaker against 2 enemies (and you very seldom face just a single MAP BOSS with no adds in place).

Nightmaher, Freesia, Iono, Red Spider Lily, Saffron ?
might be interesting...

Something to think about would be
Nightmaher, Iono, Freesia, Saffron, Yandere

Not sure how combination of Saffron with Taunt and Yandere chan would work out. AoE would still hit all thus giving you the buffs.
In this case I can see Perslane taking place instead of Iono, or Freesia (3 slash 2 pierce is a no no though). Uff yeah it seems weird but would be rather tought to crack and pretty painful due to all the Counters and 2x act buffs after being hit.

Twillight - thats because its a discussion thread for tactics, and tactics always take lot of space

Originally Posted by Myrdin

Interesting take on it, but I have one problem with Perslane - Her setup is more tuned towards Crit. teams, since she boost Crit damage as well as chance, and while yes she can dodge, and heal - her Healing has only 30% to activate.

Now I got Soap chan who has Self heal 30% and I must say it ticks pretty often, and heals her up for about 5430 hp or soo, and thats pretty good, so yeah Perslane has this effect for the whole team which seems pretty good, especially in combination with Phoenix chans resurect.
But I must say I am not a big fan of her. She is a one trick pony, and the rest of her skills is mediocre at best (understandably so, since her Revive is very powerful).

Now This strategy would be amazing with a pure Counter Team, or Full Counter/Evade team. But since only Saffron and Nightmaher have Counter and Evade, I find it a bit lacking, as you do not have any real means of damage, and since you are not countering with majority of your team the enemy will not kill itself on you so easily. Thus the healing becomes a bit piontless. Again it would be great in full Counter team, but we dont have that option.
with Iono and Freesia, you get 40% to do a second attack, and that second attacks also applies all Skill Activation modifiers.
I have seen my Protea carry my team so many times due to her taking double turns every now and then.
And its a bigger chance than the 30% AoE heal.

Granted I am the type of player who tends to build up his forces and then strike in one decimating assault, not purely rushing, nor purely turtling either.

I was thinking maybe Red Spider Lily might be Good, her skill buffing the squad by number of enemies - I am not sure though if this buff is applied BEFORE the attacks, or AFTER, and also if its only 1turn effect.
If its BEFORE and lasts the whole combat, we are looking at 35% extra damage on top of everything else the team has going on, compensating a lot for the weak offensive of this team due to its defensive nature. And if it lasts until the end of the combat even better.
Granted its weaker against 2 enemies (and you very seldom face just a single MAP BOSS with no adds in place).

Nightmaher, Freesia, Iono, Red Spider Lily, Saffron ?
might be interesting...

Something to think about would be
Nightmaher, Iono, Freesia, Saffron, Yandere

Not sure how combination of Saffron with Taunt and Yandere chan would work out. AoE would still hit all thus giving you the buffs.
In this case I can see Perslane taking place instead of Iono, or Freesia (3 slash 2 pierce is a no no though). Uff yeah it seems weird but would be rather tought to crack and pretty painful due to all the Counters and 2x act buffs after being hit.

Twillight - thats because its a discussion thread for tactics, and tactics always take lot of space

I have Red Spider Lily. Let me test it real quick. There are so many buffs in rainbow teams so they are tough to track

Edit: The Buff is applied before the combat begins. And the buff stays until combat is over.

Awesome idea Myrdin!

Of course it is mofu :3 and its all mine hueheheh ! >:3 *evil mofu laughter*

Nah, this was Wutans and Games idea. They discussed it in the Chit-Chat yesterday.
I just offered to open the thread and put some basic organization forms and maybe by using my team as an example, create a pseudo template to make it easier for future discussions, since I am good with that kind of stuff and enjoy it.
(Plus I really wanted to use the word "Tactica" for the name of the thread. Everything sounds much cooler if Tactica is added to it.... Combat formations tactica, Mofufu Tactica !, Weedng your Garden Tactica ! Watching Por... errr right ! You know what I mean... Tactica ! )

Wutan thanks for checking Foxy chan for me. Yeah in that case, the buff is pretty damn cool.

Originally Posted by Myrdin

Of course it is mofu :3 and its all mine hueheheh ! >:3 *evil mofu laughter*

Nah, this was Wutans and Games idea. They discussed it in the Chit-Chat yesterday.
I just offered to open the thread and put some basic organization forms and maybe by using my team as an example, create a pseudo template to make it easier for future discussions, since I am good with that kind of stuff and enjoy it.
(Plus I really wanted to use the word "Tactica" for the name of the thread. Everything sounds much cooler if Tactica is added to it.... Combat formations tactica, Mofufu Tactica !, Weedng your Garden Tactica ! Watching Por... errr right ! You know what I mean... Tactica ! )

Wutan thanks for checking Foxy chan for me. Yeah in that case, the buff is pretty damn cool.

Do you remember the old Team Tactics we had a year ago? I thought it would be cool to have something similar in the DMM Thread since DMM is our true love. Let's be honest guys

And i think here are more people interested in Tactica (good name, i like it ) compared to Nutaku.

You are much better writing thread introductions than me so i am glad you made this thread

Yeah Red Spider Lily could be a solid option for your Team.

Lol Mydrin, no sir, all credit goes to you xD Tactica is pretty cool sounding not gonna lie.
Your dream team, that's why you saving all your FGs? Hehehe...

And Yandere-chan June Bride, her 35% next turn bonus does not stack turn over turn Too bad. But I guess that'd be way to OP anyways now thinking about it haha!

Now, with the resources I have, focused on building a somewhat viable skill act. team. 'Cuz I'm sick and tired of my team's abilities not activating, while watching my helper's team go bananas with like all their girls getting their skills off, arg.

Lycoris Shrine Maiden, Yandere Victoria Bride Chan, Apple, Ionocidium(coming soon) will get me 1.8x static boost. For the last one, should I add Safforn Chrismas for 2.0x, OR keep my Night Phlox and keep the skill act. at 1.8x, but she has Evade and HP absorb...? Hmm...

Ideally, for this team, I eventually want Dusty Miller Chrismas for Overall Team static boost 1.8, and 1st turn 1.65x.

Hehe, nope, my dream team was to build a crazy Crit Team, with Aizoon :3 That dream has already happened. Now I made a new goal for myself and that is a Evade/Counter team, so I can tackle those stupid crazy maps, where you need the enemy to kill itself on you, because they usually wipe you off the screen in two turns (thats what happens to my DPS theme Crit team).


Now I kinda mentioned it in the OP, and have talked extensively with Wutan about it on Discord but let me try to give you a tip or two about thsi as well Ghost - Dont use the "Skill act." as your main point.
At least not as the only single point around which you are building.
Why ?
Because a HUUUGE number of girls, has this ability once bloomed, so where you would normally be limited by XY of girls having the skill you are looking for, with Skill activation beeing so widespread across the whole sprectrum of girls, you have absurd number of combinations. You can literally make any type of Team and still make sure most if not all of the girls in it have skill act.

As such I would strongly recommend to think about what other thing do you want your girls to do, and build the team around that, - and making sure that every single one of them has (or at least 4 of them) has the Skill act. as one of her listed abilities.

Let me use the template as an example:

So you want to have Skill act. Thats cool make that a N1 Point, but make sure all the girls follow N2 point as well to get as good of a synergy as possible.

N1 - All girls have Skill activation, of one type or the other
N2 - All girls have Reneact (thats how I call the ability that gives them a chance to attack one more time each turn).

N3 - Try to get 1 girl of each type to have someone to deal weakness damage against all enemy types
N4 - Would be nice if there was someone in the team to add Skill damage.

With this you already set up few check points to make sure you get the maximum mileage out of your composition.
This will also help you with deciding which girls to focus on, since there is such a huge number of them, normally it would be very hard to determine whom you want and who you dont, just based on one single factor, since most of the girls tend to have 4 different passives.
This way you already reduced the huge amount to much more managable one, as you go through the list of girls, you wil note the ones with Reneact + Skill act. combo and put them to the side.
I recommend making a list, just how like I did with ALL the Evade girls.

Now with this list in hand, you can choose the best ones, or the ones you like the most, or the waifus, etc etc. Build the team, and post it, as well as the whole list itself up here for discussion, maybe some of us will be able to point out something you overlooked, or maybe you get inspired by the comments and fine tune the team, etc etc.

Thats what I did, and it made the whole thing both much faster and easier to read through, as well as it was kinda fun, like searching for puzzle pieces and putting them togather mofu :3

Originally Posted by Ghostmon

Lol Mydrin, no sir, all credit goes to you xD Tactica is pretty cool sounding not gonna lie.
Your dream team, that's why you saving all your FGs? Hehehe...

And Yandere-chan June Bride, her 35% next turn bonus does not stack turn over turn Too bad. But I guess that'd be way to OP anyways now thinking about it haha!

Now, with the resources I have, focused on building a somewhat viable skill act. team. 'Cuz I'm sick and tired of my team's abilities not activating, while watching my helper's team go bananas with like all their girls getting their skills off, arg.

Lycoris Shrine Maiden, Yandere Victoria Bride Chan, Apple, Ionocidium(coming soon) will get me 1.8x static boost. For the last one, should I add Safforn Chrismas for 2.0x, OR keep my Night Phlox and keep the skill act. at 1.8x, but she has Evade and HP absorb...? Hmm...

Ideally, for this team, I eventually want Dusty Miller Chrismas for Overall Team static boost 1.8, and 1st turn 1.65x.

Note that skill activation boost team can be divided into 2 sub categories.

1. Nuke type: This one include all that have super powerful boost like x1.65 skill on first turn, 2x on self with 100% double act, 35% damage boost on first turn etc. This set up gives powerful one-off attack. But if by whatever the reason you can't take out powerful enemies in single turn. (Ume and Sakura with their damage reduction comes to mind) The team value will be reduced immensely. Just like nuke, you can't spam it after all.

Noteworthy girls: Dendrobium, Sensitive Plants (She pretty much makes sure all attack from everyone will hit weak points), Water Lily (June Bride), Cattleya (Radiant Princess), and Shiro-chan (Christmas) for example.

2. Skill activation that goes beyond 1.2x: This one included girls with 'skill activation rates of party members by 1.28~1.36x based on her skill level (1~5)' in the team' Breakthrough the 2x wall that comes naturally with full skill activation team. The rest of set up follow Mydrin's wise guide.
Noteworthy (Or rather, only these two have this skill as I know) girls: Nerine, and Christmas Rose So you have both magic and blunt, pierce and slash is easy to find and too many options to actually scope down.