Thread: new player needs help (DMM version)

In term of passive you can replace Canna with Himeyuri and Oshiroibana.
You don't need to stick on type when you building your team.
But it's your team, so your choice.

Also you want to do like this in option menu to fix your assitant problem.

Originally Posted by twilightdream

In term of passive you can replace Canna with Himeyuri and Oshiroibana.
You don't need to stick on type when you building your team.
But it's your team, so your choice.

Also you want to do like this in option menu to fix your assitant problem.

Thanks to everybody, problem with assistant solved. I know about sticking girl's type, but i needed someone else blunt to spent blue manyus after Heather will be lvl 70, so i began to do this permanent event.

Your storage is unlimited.
You can stock everything in there as much as you want.

For me, the best event girl over all the others is clearly Mountain Lily. Her +20% ATK turn one is unique and better than any gacha gold similar ability and once she is bloomed she is a strong counter girl, better than most of gacha counter girls without equipslot unlocked).
Behind her, Echeveria is really good too for similar reasons but her permanant reissue will happen in a looong time so, she can't be an option.

And then, girls like Hypericum, Mirabilis or Geranium are good choice to start and can be helpful girls for a long time.

It seems most of what needed to be said was already mentioned.

From my side I would recommend going for the 30 FG gacha as a F2P player myself, at least as a start.
Once you get an army of 5*, I'd switch to the 50 FG ones.
Don't be too worried about 6* at the start, I've got my first one at 1+ year of playing.

Blooming and promotion should be left for when you're actually feeling wealthy enough to tackle it.
Promotion needs a lot of currency that you don't get quite often, so I'd stick with your favorite girl for this one.
As for blooming, some girls get quite a boost with their third ability, so you might want to concentrate on those, though in the end you don't lose much by just picking your favorite.

I don't know how far Nutaku has gotten with their updates, but I have a "good practice" concerning equipment seeds.
I amass them until an event with additional upgrade exp appears - then I use them all at once.
Last time I checked you can't get forge spirits out of the equipment gacha in Nutaku. Here you can.
I don't use any equipment as fuel for leveling other equipment pieces - in DMM you get enough forge spirits for all your leveling needs.
All the leftover equipment you won't be using can be reforged into bond crystals, which in turn can be used to buy commander medals, which then can be used to buy 5*+ gacha tickets.
Using those, you start gathering rainbow medals. 300 medals and you get a rainbow unit of your choice.
I would avoid using bond crystals/commander medals for anything else, unless you have a surplus of the first - you can get some 5* girls (not in the gacha, though weak) to fill up the team or anything else you need from that specific store.
The mentioned 5* girls can be fed equipment and skill blooms you get by using the special plant pots in your garden (the golden ones).

I'll add you as an ally in a moment.

Originally Posted by Volarmis

It seems most of what needed to be said was already mentioned.

From my side I would recommend going for the 30 FG gacha as a F2P player myself, at least as a start.
Once you get an army of 5*, I'd switch to the 50 FG ones.
Don't be too worried about 6* at the start, I've got my first one at 1+ year of playing.

Blooming and promotion should be left for when you're actually feeling wealthy enough to tackle it.
Promotion needs a lot of currency that you don't get quite often, so I'd stick with your favorite girl for this one.
As for blooming, some girls get quite a boost with their third ability, so you might want to concentrate on those, though in the end you don't lose much by just picking your favorite.

I don't know how far Nutaku has gotten with their updates, but I have a "good practice" concerning equipment seeds.
I amass them until an event with additional upgrade exp appears - then I use them all at once.
Last time I checked you can't get forge spirits out of the equipment gacha in Nutaku. Here you can.
I don't use any equipment as fuel for leveling other equipment pieces - in DMM you get enough forge spirits for all your leveling needs.
All the leftover equipment you won't be using can be reforged into bond crystals, which in turn can be used to buy commander medals, which then can be used to buy 5*+ gacha tickets.
Using those, you start gathering rainbow medals. 300 medals and you get a rainbow unit of your choice.
I would avoid using bond crystals/commander medals for anything else, unless you have a surplus of the first - you can get some 5* girls (not in the gacha, though weak) to fill up the team or anything else you need from that specific store.
The mentioned 5* girls can be fed equipment and skill blooms you get by using the special plant pots in your garden (the golden ones).

I'll add you as an ally in a moment.

Thank you and other people, who gave me a lot of usefull advices and added me as friend. So now i have some compilation about the account progress in dmm (maybe it shall be usefull to someone else).

1) about shop - life crystals - spend to 6* skills somedays. If i shall rarity up 5* , their skill will be redused to 1 anyway so i will need 2k LC for each one. I don't know if 30rarity up crystals discount worth 250 LC spent to 5* skillbloom, maybe no. I dislike ampies per 100 LC, bloom petals - i don't know what is better - LC vs 100k coins (no 100k option on nutaku unfortunately)
bond crystals - girls per 18k are too expencive to me so only options are cheap D medals and cheap 2-nd aff gifts, maybe expencive D medals if i have extra ones.
rainbow medals.... 100 d medals->5* guaranteed ticket-> repeat 300 times... it will take years to have a single 6*, so i'm gonna just forget about it. I guess that more productive way is play 30 FG gacha, add some d medals to have enough crystals, upgrade someone realy good, like Waterlilly or Anemone miko to 6*, max her skill for 2k LC, PROFIT.
d medals - guaranted 5* tickets with low chance for 6*, rarity up crystals, ampies
sun medals - before i could have at least 600k whale group only, option is bloom birds (on dmm i have 6k medals from the begining instead of nutaku, where i just started whale missions with 520k team, so i'm only planning to bloom first girl there - Primrose ), maybe some ampies/dragons if i will realy miss them. Then second aff heart (no need to buy them with LC). Accesoires are expencive so it's not for the beginners.
coins (only DMM) - 150k per 4* girl is useless, bloom petal per 100k is an option
2) exchange - almost non-existing on nutaku: exchange 3x5 lvl manyus to 20 lvl... how i miss it on nutaku when i'm forced to sell 5 lvl yellow/blue manyus from current event because the upgrade price at 30+lvl becomes too painfull, maybe copper forge spirits to silver/gold to save money.
accessoires seeds - play 100x gacha, keep +10 medium ones, exchange rest to bond crystals. What is item with anvil icon, exchangable with forge spirits?
3) FG - character/accessoires capacity if needed, spend rest to 30 fg gacha. Maybe after about 30-40 5* girls switch to 50 FG ones, cross fingers and pray for 6*.

About girls progression:
Level up at least 1 5* girl to lvl 70 evolved ASAP (80 bloomed later) - your helper squad max lvl is your girl max lvl.
Next goal - level up 20 5* girls (maybe with couple 4* if needed) to lvl 60, then evolve some of them untill you will have full group of 20 evolved 70 girls, during this process bloom 1 to lvl 80.
After that you may think about theme parties - like dodge/attack down/skill chance/crit and begin to bloom others.
First bloomed girl in my case will be Anemone miko - skill chance up, attack up, evasion seems to be fantastic abilities set.
Permanent event girls - Mountain Lilly is good, Edelweiss and Lavender both have good stats but terrible abilities. BTW, Edelweiss missions are very, very easy, even top ones, so every 1 week old account easy can have her. Geranium with skill up ability seems to be ok too. But in general they're much weaker then gacha 5* girls.
I found another interesting permanent event girl - Monotropastrum. Attack up, dodge, crit up - seems nice even unbloomed (i think that permanent event girls are too weak for bloom), but again she is pierce type like Mountain Lilly.

And for lvl up exp event - am i right that it is right now and will be finished 4.2.18 so i must upgrade everyone theese days?
About flower pots at my garden - is there any difference between different flower pots - 150k ones are for skillblooms for girls, buyable with bound stones , but what about others? BTW, there are 5 150k pots and 4 girls, what is 5-th for?
Wutan said that i must keep at least 10 keys from manyu mission. Is there some special missions for multiple keys? i have 120 of them and i don't know how.

In general, DMM is much more newbie friendly then nutaku - besides japaneese language.

About LC: buy only Gold and Rainbow skill bloom, the few Dress Bloom (becareful, they are limited and never refilled) and the 5*6* ticket (never refilled too). All the other stuff don't worth theses LC at all. Silver skillbloom could be useful to reach skill lvl5 on a 4* you REALLY want for Rainbow promotion.

About Bond Crystal and D-medals: Don't buy the girls with D-medals. D-medals are too rare. Use them for tickets or Rainbow shards if you really need them. Use Bond Crystal to buy theses girls, if you want them. You can get a lot of Bond Crystal through many ways (equipement reforging, selling/using as upgrade material 3* to 6* girls, daily quests, on certains events and through some campaigns).

About Keys and how to select the stages:

1. First click on the marked icon:



2. On the second screen you can select the Manyu Type you want.



3. On the third screen you can select how many keys you want to spend. The more keys you spend (max is 10) the more Manyus you will get.
If you are lucky you will get 20 Lvl.100 Manyus and 30 Lvl.20 Manyus. In my case right here i have only got 10 Lvl. 100 Manyus.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you and other people, who gave me a lot of usefull advices and added me as friend. So now i have some compilation about the account progress in dmm (maybe it shall be usefull to someone else).

1) about shop - life crystals - spend to 6* skills somedays. If i shall rarity up 5* , their skill will be redused to 1 anyway so i will need 2k LC for each one. I don't know if 30rarity up crystals discount worth 250 LC spent to 5* skillbloom, maybe no. I dislike ampies per 100 LC, bloom petals - i don't know what is better - LC vs 100k coins (no 100k option on nutaku unfortunately)
bond crystals - girls per 18k are too expencive to me so only options are cheap D medals and cheap 2-nd aff gifts, maybe expencive D medals if i have extra ones.
rainbow medals.... 100 d medals->5* guaranteed ticket-> repeat 300 times... it will take years to have a single 6*, so i'm gonna just forget about it. I guess that more productive way is play 30 FG gacha, add some d medals to have enough crystals, upgrade someone realy good, like Waterlilly or Anemone miko to 6*, max her skill for 2k LC, PROFIT.
d medals - guaranted 5* tickets with low chance for 6*, rarity up crystals, ampies
sun medals - before i could have at least 600k whale group only, option is bloom birds (on dmm i have 6k medals from the begining instead of nutaku, where i just started whale missions with 520k team, so i'm only planning to bloom first girl there - Primrose ), maybe some ampies/dragons if i will realy miss them. Then second aff heart (no need to buy them with LC). Accesoires are expencive so it's not for the beginners.
coins (only DMM) - 150k per 4* girl is useless, bloom petal per 100k is an option
2) exchange - almost non-existing on nutaku: exchange 3x5 lvl manyus to 20 lvl... how i miss it on nutaku when i'm forced to sell 5 lvl yellow/blue manyus from current event because the upgrade price at 30+lvl becomes too painfull, maybe copper forge spirits to silver/gold to save money.
accessoires seeds - play 100x gacha, keep +10 medium ones, exchange rest to bond crystals. What is item with anvil icon, exchangable with forge spirits?
3) FG - character/accessoires capacity if needed, spend rest to 30 fg gacha. Maybe after about 30-40 5* girls switch to 50 FG ones, cross fingers and pray for 6*.

About girls progression:
Level up at least 1 5* girl to lvl 70 evolved ASAP (80 bloomed later) - your helper squad max lvl is your girl max lvl.
Next goal - level up 20 5* girls (maybe with couple 4* if needed) to lvl 60, then evolve some of them untill you will have full group of 20 evolved 70 girls, during this process bloom 1 to lvl 80.
After that you may think about theme parties - like dodge/attack down/skill chance/crit and begin to bloom others.
First bloomed girl in my case will be Anemone miko - skill chance up, attack up, evasion seems to be fantastic abilities set.
Permanent event girls - Mountain Lilly is good, Edelweiss and Lavender both have good stats but terrible abilities. BTW, Edelweiss missions are very, very easy, even top ones, so every 1 week old account easy can have her. Geranium with skill up ability seems to be ok too. But in general they're much weaker then gacha 5* girls.
I found another interesting permanent event girl - Monotropastrum. Attack up, dodge, crit up - seems nice even unbloomed (i think that permanent event girls are too weak for bloom), but again she is pierce type like Mountain Lilly.

And for lvl up exp event - am i right that it is right now and will be finished 4.2.18 so i must upgrade everyone theese days?
About flower pots at my garden - is there any difference between different flower pots - 150k ones are for skillblooms for girls, buyable with bound stones , but what about others? BTW, there are 5 150k pots and 4 girls, what is 5-th for?
Wutan said that i must keep at least 10 keys from manyu mission. Is there some special missions for multiple keys? i have 120 of them and i don't know how.

In general, DMM is much more newbie friendly then nutaku - besides japaneese language.

life crystals: You won't be rarity-upping many of your 5*s, use golden skillblooms for useful golds instead of the discount. Ampies aren't worth it unless you're sitting on something like 10k LC after buying the recently added ticket and dressblooms. For petals, the first choice should be getting what you can from quests for completing lower level unique missions. 75 LC and 100k gold will both be manageable prices later on. LC also become much more plentiful when you can do the Ultimate missions which Nutaku refuses to add for no apparent reason.

bond crystals: With raid bosses giving 800+ seeds apiece, you should be able to forge enough crystals for all the D medals, cheap gifts and eventually save enough for the characters.

rainbow medals: I got 300 as a free player. Just keep buying those D tickets and rolling gacha.

d medals: If you're not a whale, you'll be choosing either tickets or rainbow crystals. You won't have enough for both, much less ampies.

sun medals: Before buying birds, again, see if you can get what you need from unique missions' quests.

gold: I had no issue with buying some 4*s for 150k before, but things might be different nowadays.

forge spirits: The anvil icon one is for character specific equipment. You can convert other types to that because the character stuff can be leveled to 50, upgraded, and leveled to 50 again. That'd be too much of a drain on earring forge spirits if they were still the only choice.

FG: Using the 30fg gacha until you have 30-40 5*s seems excessive. It'd probably be best to stop once you have four of one or both featured girls. There'll presumably be another 30fg/5* max gacha every other week as they add new rarity promotions for old 5*s.

other permanent events: Star Lily has high stats for an event girl, Guts and benefits more than most event girls from blooming with her +37% atk for two. Robinia is like Edelweiss with less atk, more def. Adonis is another one that ignores webs/whirlwinds. Rain Lily and Belladonna are there if you just need more atk debuff.

The bonus exp ends with the coming update but it's a small bonus and happens semi-regularly. No need to stress.

The fifth golden pot is for Azalea (Newcomer), obtainable from one of the Unique missions.

Using 10 manyu keys at once is a time saver. Nothing more, nothing less.