View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

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  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
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    5 41.67%
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    Finally some free time after a long crapsack day, now time to throw some opinions for this twin-tailed girl.

    Dendrobium... she's the old goddess of nuke in FKG back then and now she still one of the best sweeper in the game. Although she's not so unique anymore, she still one of very popular choice in my ally list. Now let's get started

    1. Raw stat: Her stat are pretty low except HP which exceed 20k. Her atk, which is the most important for her character, is surprisingly low with 7500 only. Def is also low with 2800ish. Spd is okay with 530, easy to fit in any team without breaking composition or setup.
    Grading: C
    2. Skill: Slightly better than any average AOE type with 2.4x, the chance is 24-34% as usual. Potent power for sweeper.
    Grading: B+
    3. Abilities: She boost 22% atk on party and total 32% on self. Not too shabby but I do want some more for nuker like her. Her true worth shines in her skill activation combo however. The 100% to react on first turn and 2x chance to use skill made her spot as vanguard who clears all small flies first before any single target nuker can land attack on boss or stronger remaining enemy. But just like any nuke girls, her value decline sharply if cannot defeat enemy in single turn. It's a normal trade-off, not exactly a flaw or bad point. Fit her with correct composition and she will blow trough enemy's rank cleanly with potentially 4.8x on first turn.
    Grading: A (If stand as team vanguard, otherwise just B)

    Final verdict: Somewhere between B+ and A- It just kinda hanging around there. Her raw stat hold back so much of the potential she possesses. If only it reach at least 7800atk or her abilities boost damage from skill or even sharply increase atk like BB. Then solid A is a given. In a new, broken map it's become more common that Dendrobium cannot clear even fodder pests so some powerful boss killer skill might wasted on them rather than actal big prey. Maybe after she got rebuff she will reach pinnacle of A proudly. For now it just A from round up.

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    So, it's time for Dendrobium.


    Stats:
    My dears friends already said it, her stats are low. She only has good HP but it's not that usefull on her. Nothing much to say.

    Skill
    A solid and powerful all target skill. It's a perfect skill for her role.

    Abilities
    The most interesting... and disapointing part.
    Skill Activation Rate for oneself by 2x on turn 1 + 100% chance to Act Again on turn 1 is the key of all her power. THIS will just destroy every pests too weak to survive. Add someone like Cymbidium in her team and she will sweep every small pathetic insetcs in her way.
    +22% ATK for member is nice and welcome.
    +10% ATK for herself is... bad. Sorry. A long time ago, when she ruled among the most powerful rainbows, it was cool but now with all the newcomer, +10% for herself it not enough at all. She need to be buffed a bit on this point.

    Despite that tiny black point, her abilities combo is great and make her what she is.

    Conclusion
    She was an awesome 6* in the past but she is outclassed by some new 6* now. She is still truely powerful with a high destruction power but she shines brighter than the sun only on 1st turn. After this short moment of glory, she is just a 6* with low stats and mediocre ATK boost.
    Despite this, she remains a solid unit for a great part of the game or all really short battles scenario (like helper teams for Nidhogg phase 1). But with the lastest broken maps and boss who needs more than 1 turn, she is outclassed by many better girls.
    To conclude the conclusion, she is still as good as she was on her good days but the game changed and she remains almost the same. She suffer a lot of her old age, like many firsts girls.

    Final verdict:
    One year ago, I could rank her as S-tier but due to the game evolution and her lack of buff to folow the new rainbow tendancy, I will just give her a A-tier, for her sweep power on a great part of the game.
    She deserves more a A- but it's still a A.


    Just to be clear, I like her. For her design, and combat style and all the other stuff. But she is still not as good as she was in the past
    Last edited by maotd; 05-30-2018 at 02:02 PM.

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    So pretty much all has been said about the abilities and the ranking.
    I too rank her former S, current A.
    Nothing to add about the abilities, stats or ult.

    Design and artwork
    But since I am a rebel like that HBC's FKG 6* Tier List-maxresdefault.jpg I am gonna comment on it, even if its not allowed !
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlujizeNNQM

    Her basic art is extremely boring. Like really boring.
    It gets more endearing with her Evo artwork. Her Bloom art is actually decently cute and unlike some girls it holds still in the theme with her overall style.
    The voice over is nice, and while I can imagine the voice on other girls as well, its not horribly out of place and doesnt grind ones ears.
    The effect of the ultimate is pretty cool and gives of that Avatar LA feel.

    I can see two skills that she could profit from as a form of buff - Pure damage increase and Counter. There arent many good Blue counter girls, and just by giving her Counter this would kick up to S tier once more as she could fill that gap for people like me who want to build teams with all colors included but due to limited selection in certain colors types its a rather problematic. Pure damage buff, increased to from 10% to lets say 35% for self is self explanatory.
    A possible Skill damage buff on this girl would be devastating even if it was the usual 15%

    Yes Denbro is still a solid girl, and if you like yourself some battle maids she is still a solid pick, especially if you want a team with 4 single target nukers and need one sweeper to open up on the adds to clear the field.
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    I would buff Dendrobium's Selfbuff to 30-40% i think.

    Btw. guys did you notice that the devs always buff the Skillset only? I think they didn't change the stats of any girl so far.

    I still question some of there buff decisions.
    For example: They buffed Anemone through the roof. She is now a really really good Counter/Crit Hybrid.
    I mean 30 % Crit Chance and 40 % Crit Damage on top of her Counter Ability? That's insane.

    Same with Acacia. Her buff was also really n1. Maple got buffed twice and now she has one of the highest if not the highest Group Atk Buff in the whole game. Helenium also got buffed multiple times in a row (she will recive another buff in the near future).

    Then we have girls like Iono and BB which only got the standard Skill Damage boost. I don't know i am at that point where it bothers me to see the unoriginal "15 % Skill Damage to the whole group" on every other buffed Girl.

    I mean i dig the buffs my Waifu, Helenium etc. got but i feel like some girls were left behind a little bit in terms of buffing.

    At this point we can clearly see some form of power creep due to Rarity Growth (girls have more synergetic Skillsets, higher stats etc.) and if some girls won't get buffed more they could slip down to C-Tier.

    Dendrobium was strong enough to stay in A-Tier but for other girls it don't look so good.

    I am happy there is no PVP. Wouldn't be pleasant i imagine

    @Myrdin

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    Of course you are allowed to write about design etc. It shouldn't influence the final decision to much though. That's all

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    @Wutan Once we clear all native rainbow out, then why not? We still need something to talk, even if it just few of us here anyway. But talking about powercreeped can be hard...

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    Since promoted girls tend to be more powerful than regular rainbows, we could just do a promoted 6* tiering, different than the natural 6* tiering.
    We could even do the same for 5* but it will be much harder.

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    If we decide to make a seperate thread for promoted 6* Girls we should make that thread in the relatively near future before we fall to far behind and the promoted girls pile up like crazy.

    We are at Event 87 atm. If we continue to rate two natural 6* a week we'll need 60+ weeks or so before we catch up. I think we should prevent that from happening with the promoted girls. It could be stressfull to vote all these girls however...

    5* however are an enormous act. I don't think that's possible. There are way to many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maotd View Post
    Since promoted girls tend to be more powerful than regular rainbows, we could just do a promoted 6* tiering, different than the natural 6* tiering.
    We could even do the same for 5* but it will be much harder.
    I agree with maotd. I would suggest a separate thread for promoted only characters. But both me and game mentioned in chitchat, lets do it after we are done with natural 6*, since it would be a bit to much doing it alongside this thread as well. Not sure about you guys, but I dont always have the energy/hype, time and will to write long comments, checking up wiki, etc etc. In short, its to avoid burning out on the topic and not careing/wanting to post anymore coz you are fed up with it.
    No need to hurry

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