Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

Cactus is a rainbow I have not had on either Nutaku nor DMM. So this will be interesting.

Initial grading

Stats
Looking at her stats is kind of surprising. Her defense is really awesome. Talk about a wall of a flower knight girl. Unfortunately through, her HP makes that wall not so thick. And her attack is not really bad, but not really great either. That is really disappointing. Why give someone so much defense if they can't do anything with it? I've experience with this on League of Legends as Leona. She can be the tank the drives fear into the other team but she does very little in the form of actual damage. What makes her stand out is her abilities to stun enemies with her abilities. So with disappointing stats, let's look on if Cactus can make it up with her abilities like Leona does.

Abilities
Increasing Attack power for team is noting new or special. Even with the revamping of the Solar Blast, I still do not give it much weight unless you really build a powerful solar team for that sole purpose. But since I am at the stage whether I either annihilate enemies too quick to really consider using it or the enemies are so tough that it doesn't do anything much in the fight. So, unless you are a new player that needs solar blast, abilities like crystal drop are pretty much worthless in my opinion. Critical activation rate is nice ability and the critical damage 40% makes it even better. What really stands out is her 60% chance to act again after attacking. Considering her high trigger rate for her ORAORAORA skill, this can be devastating. So her abilities really do help her out with her lackluster stats.

Against normal enemies, Cactus is going to wreck. Against much stronger that will take more than a couple rounds like Nidhogg battles, she isn't going to last very long at all because of her stats. Unlike a rainbow like Red Ginger who can fit well with just about any team combo, Cactus in my opinion forces you to develop the team around her to make her the most effective; hopefully you have the right girls to do so. A powerful canon yes, but a glass canon that may only survive a couple rounds in higher tier play. Final verdict: B+

Waifu judgment
You don't have a whole lot of green haired beauties in this game, but Cactus is certainly one of them! Physical attributes speaking, I kinda wish her hair was a bit longer and breasts a bit bigger but those are just my preferences. She certainly is a fine looking woman who is also a snazzy dresser. Her outfits in her artwork certainly are colorful and classy. I certainly wouldn't having her as a waifu either. Final waifu verdict: A

Let's go.
I have her for a while last year whlie I stealing borrow my friend account.
As a spoiler Saboten is the first knight I give S rank.
Why....?

She's quick. Very quick with 695 speed.

She has very low HP and can't recover herself, but she doesn't need it.
Because she can deal 5x double damage in every turn... at least almost.

The 60% re-act is very high in my real battle.
I saw her do double action in most of the fight.
Don't need to tell that if she active her skill what will happen.

She also has critical dmg & rate boost passive, in right place she will produce tons of damage.
And with a lot of adjustment now, it not that difficult to build around her at all compare to Red Ginger speed buff.

Her only down side in passive is the crystal drop passive that seem to be useless nowadays.
But with only 3 passive she already a monster.

Again she's S class knight.

I`ll make this quick.
Cattleya still a C for me, just as we spoke on Discord Wut.

Cactus - everything has been said already. Neutral A tier for me.

It seems like some people are considering A tier to be .... weak ? Guys S tier is BROKEN only girls. Its a tier reserved for bullshit characters like Kerria and Saffron (and a very few, select additional ones).
A tier is the HIGHEST tier as far as balance, design and overall performance go. Any girl who can be A tier is amongst the strongest girls available.
There is no shame in being very strong, but not broken. Thats the point > Broken is not a positive meaning, and is only viewed positive since its a game where you as a player get your hands on the broken stuff. In most other games its usually you facing the Broken not having it.

The crystal drop kills her S tier potential completely, just like it does with my strongly anticipated Waifu Mei.

Thus the reason I am saving myself the time not repeating what has been said. You bet your shiny breaches, I`ll go full writer mode on her once we get to Mei, seeing as she was my very first Waifu in FKG and the very first girl I spend money to get.

To be honest everything from S-Tier to B-Tier is a win in my book.

What's more important than the strength of one girl is the overall synergy of the squad in my opinion.

About Cattleya:

I know we talked about it. Still unsure though.

It's tough. She still only has three usefull Abilities to be honest (Solar Gauge and all that stuff "sigh") but she came very very close to the power of BB and BB has barely managed to become a B-Tier Girl. Cattleya is more consistent in her Atk-Buff but has one less usefull Ability.

I still need time for that decision. BB is B- for me. Don't know about Cattleya yet. Either C+ or B-.

They are both Sweeper Rainbows with high Atk. Buffs for the whole group just like Maple.

Both of them get heavily outclassed by Maple in my opinion.

Maple has the better version of Skill.Act, consistent Atk-Buff (50% for the whole party without a condition like BB), 45 % Skill Damage for herself (which makes her hit three enemies for x4,06 Damage) and she has 45% Atk Buff for herself in addition to the other three Abilities.

Maple is in my opinion either one of the strongest B-Tiers (B+) or one of the weaker A-Tiers (A-). Also still unsure about that.

I often times question myself if i made the right decisions in my votes

It's hard

This thread is for discussion individual vision on individual Knight right?
So someone broken knight may not be other broken knight.

Now we start to add Waifu Ability or How cute they are to judge knight tier.
So meaning of Broken may go wider too.

More important, this is all for fun.
In the end even I know there're tons of strong girls out there, but I still have to stick with girls I own.

Originally Posted by Wutan

It's hard

No its not

Fuck that tsundere wannabe. C+ is good enough for her.

Also twilight is right in that factoring in the "waifu-ism" (so no S tier Red Ginger I am sorry lads) messes up the overall relatively unbiased evaluation.

Thus if its a Waifu for the person, you should always do split score. If its not a waifu thus your review is not skewed towards higher tier because of personal likes you dont need to include it.
Power/Balance Score: X
Waifu Score: S++++++ because Helenium, and and because Mei and and because Victoria, a-and Aizoon of course !!! And, and,and..... you get what I mean

And yea, this is still mostly for the fun. If we for some miraculous reason get an influx of new DMM FKG players, they can refer to this and the Tactica thread, since we do all the "research" in here, thus its a lot of valuable info accessible by anyone, anytime all the time, but ultimately it is mainly for fun so in short > Dont sweat it *thumbsup*

Best case scenario would be if we had a whale like Allocer here of course.

A guy who has all Rainbows maxed out and available. Comparisons would be so much easier

About Waifu traits in this thread:

Well i wrote in the rules all voters should eliminate as much bias as possible.

Either if they like the girl, are indifferent to or dislike the girl.

I accept eliminating all bias is impossible cause it's human. Therefore i won't forbid others to write about waifuism if they want to. As long as it won't become repetetive where someone says in every other vote:

"Rhubarb Barbara is the best Waifu cause she makes the best Rhubarb Cakes south of the Mississippi " i don't have much of a problem with it (Waifuism shouldn't influence the overall voting to much of course).

I just hope all votes are reasonable and fair

Personally i won't speak about any waifu qualities here cause my posts are quite long and i try to seperate as much as possible between Unit and Girl.

Originally Posted by Wutan

Personally i won't speak about any waifu qualities here cause my posts are quite long and i try to seperate as much as possible between Unit and Girl.

Hearing those cold words from the one she loved the most, her head lowered ever so slightly. While still trying to keep up a brave front, she felt a little sting of pain in her chest. Turning her face to escape his sight...
Mapple cried...
just a little...
inside her heart

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Bad Wutan mofu >:3 making waifus cry fufu ! >:3