View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

    0 0%
  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
  • B-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • C-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • D-Tier

    1 8.33%
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  1. #1

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    Voting score can be differ from 2 reasons as I see in the forum here.

    1. Waifuism and thus biased. It's unavoidable but at least don't make it super obvious.
    2. You have/don't have the girl. When you have the girl and use her all the time in various build up you can see potential or weakness much clearer than one who doesn't have her. That's why I always mark 'paper only' to indicate that my rambling come from text and data only. Never use the girl myself or at least rarely use via helper team. I also separate extra section as I note, a more subjective view that could do or have nothing to do with waifu factor. Just whatever things that first come to mind when talking about her.

    Whatever it is, just chill and go with what you think. Grading like this can plus or minus one without problem. It's not like someone just barge in and said 'Kerria suck and deserve rank D/E because I said so' If the dissonance become severe like that, then we can talk later.

    PS: Finally decided to give Cattleya a B It's somewhere around C+ and B- but since I don't have her I will give her credit by rounding up rather than down.

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    From now on I'll use your "paper only" mark as well in the future if you don't mind ;D

    I wish Helper Squads would have more meaning in late game. They are really helpfull if you are a new player or for Whaleships. But that's about it.

    Sadly you can't bring Helper Squads to the hardest maps cause often times they are just forbidden there.

    Also on normal story maps or Event maps we can't test the real strength of someones Helper Squad (or a specific Rainbow) cause the pests are way to weak there...
    Last edited by Wutan; 06-13-2018 at 10:51 AM.

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    Just to be clear, that is why I brought it up in my initial post and after seeing what Wutan responded with, I agreed to keep the 2 values as separate as possible. So I do still stand by my S- vote of Red Ginger as you can see that I based my judgment off my experience with her and her stats/abilities. In the end, I admitted myself that I was strongly leaning on the "A" tier side but was just slightly convinced enough that she was "S-", in an unbiased analysis with no waifu influences. Then of course I naturally went on to gush over her on my waifu feelings. Same with Cactus, I gave a strictly unbiased analysis before waifu judging. So I have been doing my best to respect Wutan's rules and have fun with it. If others feel differently, I am sorry you feel that way. So I'll keep going forward being as honest and unbiased as possible with my official scoring before a separate fanboying vote that Wutan already knows doesn't count for anything.
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    No worries, Shad. I am personally fine with all the votes so far. I didn't see an overly biased or ridiculous vote so far. A little bit of waifuism/favouritism is always present. Besides that it would be really boring if everyone has the same opinion.

    I would only intervene in the following cases:

    1. Someone downvotes a good Unit without explanation to C/D-Tier even if there is evidence that said unit is actually really good.
    2. Someone upvotes a mediocre/weaker Rainbow to ridiculous levels (without explanation). In general upvoting a C/D-Tier Rainbow to S-Tier or something similar.
    3. Someone insults another person or trashtalks about another persons waifu.
    4. Someone constantly refers to an already voted Rainbow in every new upcoming vote and repeats how awesome the already voted Rainbow is.

    I didn't see anyone break the rules so far. And i doubt anyone will break those rules in the future. It's all good
    Last edited by Wutan; 06-13-2018 at 06:11 PM.

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    Guys guys, you are OVERTHINKING it.
    Chill, dont worry, all is good. We are just a small community of fellas here, and by this point we pretty much know each other enough to understand how the people here think (write), react, and overall present themselves. And so far other than some occasional newcomers who were not able to integrate and eventually left (or were kicked out), I think we have a pretty good small community here going
    So dont sweat the small stuff when its all good.

    Here, take this beatiful picture of Bloomed chestnut to calm and relax yourself
    HBC's FKG 6* Tier List-34790146_10209421831021493_4501032108805849088_n.jpg

    *Also - applying pseudo mofu admin bat fu ~ This awfully smells like Chit Chat to me, and we all know where that belongs dont we ?
    >:3

    (Admittedly I am also guilty this time, thus even more reason for me to rein it in)


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    So next in line should be Mei. If count correctly we should start with her today, but If I can ask you to postpone her by 1 day until tomorrow, I would be grateful.
    Last edited by Myrdin; 06-14-2018 at 12:20 AM.

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    Today is the last day of the Cactus Discussion (her Discussion started on the 12th of June). Mei's Discussion starts tomorrow
    15.06.18 - 17.06.18

    The schedule works out in your favour,bud
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    Ok i still have to vote if Cattleya should stay in C-Tier or not. It was not easy to decide it but here we go:
    I will compare her to BB cause they have a similar purpose. Group Atk-Buffing Sweepers.

    Reasons for Cattleya to stay in C-Tier:
    -She only has three usefull Abilities.
    -Her TP is considerably lower compared to BB

    Reasons for Cattleya to climb:
    -Her Group Atk Buff is more consistent than BB.

    I know 48% Atk for the whole Group is a lot (second highest Atk-Buff) but she has only three good Abilities and her HP is extremely low for a Rainbow. Yes her Atk-Buff is more consistent but BB buffs for more if there are three enemies on the field (On most maps that's the case).
    I wouldn't use either of them on harder maps if i don't have to and have other Rainbows available. Therefore on normal Event Maps and Story Maps BB is more usefull in my opinion.

    IF she just had another Ability (even a gimmick one) or more HP i would give her B-Tier as well but in the end i will stick with my original vote.
    Like game said she is somewhere between B- and C+. For me she is a tiny bit more of a C+ than a B-.

    My vote: C+
    Last edited by Wutan; 06-14-2018 at 04:00 PM.

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