Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

Hmm... Sakura? That Ara Ara Nee-san type? Not owned, again. *paper only*

Sakura must be one of the easiest to talk about for me because she and Ume almost the same exact copy aside from abilities and speed. She was also one of the very popular girl back then in Nutaku, like for every 3 helpers one must have her. Not so much in DMM but she still there especially when new broken stage introduced. Let's go with it.

1. Raw stat: Just copy-paste what I said about Ume and there you go. Oh, but her speed can be a hindrance when trying to form specific team in specific stage. So a little lower score than her best friend.
Grading: B+

2. Skill: Now just copy-paste with slight difference, Sakura kills magic-weak pests.
Grading: A

3. Abilities: The first two are nothing to talk much. Solid but not impressive.
-Increase 35% atk when facing boss is great however, as the only problem you will face in this game is boss. I mean, Kodaibana stages are the only place where fodder pests can hit you like 5 trucks run over but other than that? They really are just fodder. This skill makes your party go with 57% atk. Very high value for party buff that few girls can surpass this even with power creep nature recently.

-Increase damage when facing boss by 12%. It has low percentage considered there are 'Increase damage for party when attacked by 35%' or 'Increase damage from skill by 18%' But I suspected that all 3 are calculated separately rather than just flat addition. How is it calculated? No one knows or at least we just not really that devoted into this game like some players out there. Anyway considered that this skill boost 15% top, 12% is far from bad and will help Sakura punishes any boss especially magic-weak one.
Grading: A

Final verdict: Just like Ume, she got A. While her abilities set is not as universally useful like Ume's crit set(which got buff yet again), there are too few normal pests that gonna give you trouble. And just like Saboten, she need supporter or at least, those with damage boost to sync with her high atk boost. She's a great unit as boss killer and will does her job splendidly.

Extra: Sakura, when compared to Ume, is much more light-hearted. She is the famous 'ara ara maa maa' type Onee-san who is like super human that can does everything perfectly on first try and will either spoil you rotten or has fun teasing you endlessly, only to turn out that she too has zero experience in romance. Oh what an irony. This type of character not really clicked with me due to I being the youngest in my family. My older cousins, while friendly and I do love them, are not really reliable unlike what you see in manga/anime. So you can say it's the delusional case like who has younger sister IRL won't find imouto trope charming... like at all.
Her attack animation is epic though, it's like Sora's warp snipe from KH2. Move quicker than eye can see and fire bullets vs. Teleport before enemy's bullet and kick it back to them.

The Tier List Discussion about Sakura has ended.

Not many of us have participated this time. Only 3 votes.

Results:

2x A-Vote
1x B-Vote

A-Tier it is. I hope there will be more participants in the next round.

Next Girl:

Deadline: 23.06.18

I have Choco Lily on my DMM Account as well as my Nutaku Account. What do i think about this Shinigami???
Lets find out.

Stats:
Her HP are horrible. 18076 is really low for a Rainbow. Her HP is even lower than Cattleya's HP. Her Attack Stat is amazing, Her Defense is average.
Considering her HP is even lower than Cattleyas i don't think that her high Atk. Stat and mediocre defense can quite compensate that. I'll give C-Tier here.

Skill Activation and Skill Damage:

She deals x2,9 and has a Skill Activation of 34 % on Skill Level 5 (24 % on Skill Level 1). Since a lot of girls got Skill Act. and Skill Damage Buffs i think the Skill Damage/Skill Act. Combination she shares with other Rainbows is the weakest one. Other Sweeper Rainbows have x2,8 Multiplier and 37 % Skill Activation on Level 5 (27 % on Skill Level 1). I personally prefer more Skill Act. compared to a little bit more Skill Damage (it's only x0,1 anyway).

Grading:
B-

Abilities:

Increases Attack for party members by 20%. Average Atk Buff for the group. Solid, nothing special.

Increases Attack for oneself by 16% each time a party member uses a Skill (Up to 96%).
On paper this Ability looks amazing. However there is a problem with it . Damage is calculated at the start of each round. That basically means even if all other Girls in her Squad activate their Skills Choco Lily won't benefit from her improved attack until the next turn. On harder maps that could be a problem considering her paper thin HP. Often times highly offensive Crit Girls die rather quickly and she could die before she even benefits from her boosts. For that reason i would pair her with a girl like Wolf Berry cause she can give Choco Lily much needed protection (Shield).

Increases Critical Activation Rate for party members by 30%. Nice Critical Hit Buff. It's 10 % more Critical Activation than average.

Increases Skill Activation Rate for party members up to 1.2x based on each member's affection. Solid Buff. Always nice to see it. Fairly Standard.

In a Boss fight, increases Attack for party members by 30%. She got buffed recently. Her newest Ability. And a good one. Really helpfull on harder maps.

Grading:
This section is good, not amazing though. B

Team Building:
The problem is that you want your first turn squad to gather as much of an atk buff for Choco Lily for turn 2 as possible but since Lily can't use her buffed Atk until turn 2 the first turn girl in her Squad becomes weaker (it's not the job of a first turn squad to wait for the second turn to dish out damage like Choco Lily does). For First Turn Squads there are better Damage Dealers out there who doesn't have to wait until turn 2 to dish out good damage. Someone could argue that Choco Lily is better suited for Universal Skill Act. Teams. Universal Skill Act. Teams have more Skill Act. on all other turns but turn 1. Problem here is that Universal Skill Act. Teams often times can't gather the Atk. Boost for Choco Lily fast enough. Like i said for Crit Teams i would highly advise to pair her with someone like Wolf Berry who has the Shield Ability.

Grading: Building a Team around Choco Lily isn't easy. It's not impossible but the setups where she really shines are limited.
C-Tier

Conclusion:
Choco Lily is a Glass Canon with very low HP. She needs a little bit of preperation time before she can shine. I would highly advise to pair her with someone like Wolf Berry to give her a little bit of Protection. Not a staple for Crit Teams but good in the right team. She can dish out good Damage and in the right setup she will serve you well. Because her Abilities are so contradicting her Teambuilding options are quite limited. Therefore she is one of the weaker B-Tiers for me. Still a B-Tier though.

Final Verdict: B-

Yeah I am kinda burning out on this thread as well. When it was one girl per week I felt its fun to post, but now when its one every 3 days it feels more like a chore and I cant seem to find enough time and as such motivation to sit down and write about them.
Had a thought or two about Sakura, but we are going a bit to fast, and I just feel like not wanting to post into this thread anymore even though I have the girl and want to share a thought or two about her.

I originally stepped up the voting pace cause some of you guys told me if we only rate one girl per week we would never catch up.
There is some truth in it. I can also understand that some of you aren't that motivated to write about a certain girl after a hard job day.

I don't know what to do honestly but i can't please everyone.

Any suggestions?

Should we vote about the voting schedule?

A compromise between the two variants would be a voting schedule of 5 days for each girl.
We would vote 6 Girls with that method each month.

The original variant (1 girl each week) leads to 4 voted girls each month.

The current variant leads to 10 voted girls each month.

In my opinion the 5 day variant is the best. It's not so short that people lose interest and motivation in voting but it's also not so stretched out that we won't make any progress.

What do you think about that,guys?

Originally Posted by Wutan

A compromise between the two variants would be a voting schedule of 5 days for each girl.
We would vote 6 Girls with that method each month.

The original variant (1 girl each week) leads to 4 voted girls each month.

The current variant leads to 10 voted girls each month.

In my opinion the 5 day variant is the best. It's not so short that people lose interest and motivation in voting but it's also not so stretched out that we won't make any progress.

What do you think about that,guys?

Sounds good.

I`ll try to bash up a quick Sakura post as well today

Ok so about Sakura

Most of the things have been said.
The thing I want to focus on is the BOSS FIGHT and VS BOSS damage amplifiers.

Wutan rated this B, because of in his words those stats are to small.

I have done pretty deep research into all girls who have this skill (before last update, thus the newest one are not included), so let me share some stats with you:

Sakura adds 35% for Boss fights > meaning this affects all enemy units in that Boss fight. So yeas those pesky little minions that hang around the big guys ? They get their fair share of damage buffed up ass kickery.
Next she adds 12% Against the boss itself.

Now this is where I need to point out for the skill that is written as "Against BOSSES" (thus not the Boss fights) 12% is pretty standard deal.
The girl with the lowest stat in this skill I found was Peach Blossom (A.K.A. Mace Loli chan), who has Boss Fight 15% and Boss ONLY 8%.

There are some girls like Pumpkin and Serisa who have 20% and 30% on this skill, but then on the other side, lack the Boss FIGHT skill, which means their extra damage applies ONLY to the Boss monster itself, not the minions.

Then there are some exceptions for girls (mostly Promoted ones) who have higher % of this skill, but:
Either apply it only to limited number of party member (example: Blood Iris 35% but only herself and +2 more knights)
or
Have it much higher, but apply it ONLY to themselves, (Example Cyclamen Radiant, who applies 20% vs Boss to self, and then additional 18 vs Boss to the party, and she has Boss fight skill as well).

Then the remaining majority has around 15% for Boss only.

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What I am trying to say with all of this is - while 12% isnt that impressive, you need to account for both of those skills and the fact that the "higher standard" is 15% but there out of those girls who have 15%, only small portion of them also has Boss FIGHT as well as VS Boss. Which admittedly is not as good. The 12% is the basic, and only time it deviates is due to different skil setup combination on the girls herself.

Now it makes sense you bring a boss killer to kill .... Bosses. You wont bring a Solar Blast / Evasion girl if you need to nuke the boss hard. Thus arguing that Sakura is worse then other girls because she has only one role she fits in is kinda stupid.
Loquat is an amazing Crit girl, but all her skill revolve around that, sure you can put her in other teams and she will work there fine, just like Sakura, but her main strengths are shown when used correctly.

As such I would say Sakura is a A Tier girl. Her stats are solid, her skill setup is well tailored for what she needs to accomplish. Her speed leaves something to be desired but occasionally its good to have a girl like that, if you need to tone down super fast teams like Rabbit chan and Red Ginger.

Now about the usual stuff: Aesthetics.
Sakura is like a balm on a soar wound. Her artwork is highly detailed, and finely drawn. She is by far one of the best drawn girls out there due to the shee amount of details that are present in her artwork.
Her ultimate, being one of the earliest in the game, even to this day looks absolutely amazing > I mean you cant go wrong with a gun shooting a giant KAME-HAME-HAAAAA beam
She is also one of the very few girls who have a separate basic attack and basic attack crit. animations. Might even be the only one, but I doubt that. Still that makes her a bit more unique.
Her dual colored irises are a bit off putting but I guess the artist really tried to push the chyunibuu edgyness hard, so... eh ? *Shrug :-)

As for personality, Sakura is a proper Kudere. She is nice and warm and fluffy, and her Ara Araaa ~ is just adorable. She doesnt mind a bit of teasing, but its all in good fun.
Also she has nice long hair and her pony tail is alive (refer to her ingame Sprite) which is much adorbs.

Overall Sakura is a very solid A tier girl, that can work in any team thanks to her skill act and damage buffs, but really shines when put into the role of a Finisher and Boss killer. Not mandatory, but definitely nice to have. (If she had Crit as well i would gladly take her instead of Rainbow Rose for my second Crit/Boss killer team.).
"Ara araa ~ Maybe I should train a little bit with Mei chan then, what do you think Danchou san ?"
"S-Sakura ?! Wha.. What are you doing here ?"
"I baked you a pie and when I came to bring it to you I noticed you are talking about me ufufufu ~"
*Yes Sakura has a nice Waifu mode skin : Waifu Baker Sakura, which is always nice to have !*
"Ah, yes well I was just talking about how good of a girl you are and..."
" Ara Araa ! Danchou san is so sweet, ufufuf ~ Let me give you a little reward .... Dan-chou-san ~ Chuu ~"
"No thats not neces.. mmmm !....mmm....mmmmm ~~~"
*Sakuras arms wrap around you as she kisses you deeply pushing her weight onto you, both of you slowly sink behind the writing table as the screen fades to black*
"Ara Araa ~ ufufufu ~"

Yeah you are right. I misread it. I admit i am more of a Crit guy. Never dived into that whole boss damage stuff to much.

I am not stupid though

My argument about her low speed still applies though.

That's one of the main reason i don't like her as a unit as much as other Boss Killers. I hate it if i have to readjust my overall speed because one unit is so slow. It forces me to build the team a certain way. Might not be a problem for others. For me it is a problem. I also talked about that in my Red Ginger Review.

But yeah i think you have her on Nutaku and have experience with her. Therefore you can judge her way better than me.

I mean i also have her on Nutaku but i don't play that version anymore.

Originally Posted by Wutan

I am not stupid though
But yeah i think you have her on Nutaku and have experience with her. Therefore you can judge her way better than me.

I would never dare to suggest that you are friend
*unless of course we were drunk, standing on the side road pissing, and being drunk, you would suggest that we should try piss into the wind to show it who`s the boss here... that would be one of those cases where I would say that

Yep I have her on Nutaku and she has been serving me well.
*I have noted your request for the Sig update. Since I have to buld it from a scratch I`ll try to get it done during the weekend.