View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

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  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
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    5 41.67%
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    5 41.67%
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    (no idea why Ninjax is flipping everytime word Boost is used ? Is it a reference to something ? )
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    @Shad

    Rias would be proud

    Ok the Discussion about Chocolate Lily is now over.
    Results:
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    1xC

    She will end up in B-Tier


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    Ok i don't have Hyper Mace Loli on DMM. I only have her on Nutaku. So it's a paper only verdict.

    Stats:
    Her HP is really good. 20584 is on the higher end. In terms of good Stats that's about it. Her Atk is to low for an offensive Crit Girl. Her Defense is horrible. 2568 Def is definetely one of the worst defensive stats of all Rainbows.

    Grading: Her stats don't do it for me. Her Abilities scream "Offensive Crit Girl". Her Stats don't reflect that at all.
    C+

    Skill Activation and Skill Damage:
    28% (Lv1) → 38% (Lv5)
    Deals 5x~5.4x damage to 1 enemy based on one's current affection rating

    Amazing SingleTargetDamage and really good Skill Act.Rate

    Grading: Same grade as Mei/Sakura. A-Tier

    Abilities:
    Increases Attack for party members by 22%. A little bit above average. Solid Buff.
    Increases Defense for party members by 20%, increases damage reduction when defending by 3.7%, and allows oneself to resist fainting with 1 HP remaining up to 3 times per battle. Definetely her worst Ability in my opinion. That Ability is good for a Team based around Counter but for an offensive Crit Team it's of little value.
    Increases Critical Damage for party members by 30%. Really good Crit Buff. Not as amazing as 40% or even 50-55% (Mei and Cactus) but still really good.
    Increases Critical Activation Rate for party members by 15%. Slightly worse than average. It's not that difficult to cap at 80% Critical Hit cause you still have 4 more girls which can buff your Hit Rate.
    In a Boss fight, increases Attack for party members by 20%. Nice Buff especially for harder maps like Aqua Shadow etc.
    Increases Damage for party members against Bosses by 15%. Same as the former buff.

    Grading: I really like her Ability Set. Her defensive buff isn't that usefull in my opinion (Skill Act would have been better) but she has 5 other Abilities which are all really valuable for a Crit Nuker. A-

    Conclusion:
    First i would like to remind you guys that B-Tier is by no means bad. I mean there is a reason this Tier is called "Good Tier".
    Peach Blossom is a really good Crit Nuker. However lately we see Rarity Promotions (especially Plumeria and Rainbow Rose) outclassing her due to the fact that her stats are just not on par with some of the newer Girls and/or she doesn't have Skill Act. Also Mei and Cactus are just a little bit more Kickass than her in my opinion. For me she isn't a stable in the Crit Archetype. She is definetely worth using though.
    If she had Skill Act. instead of her Defense Ability or a better Atk. i would rate her A-Tier. For me she is a B-Tier girl.

    One of the best B-Tier Girls for sure.

    Final Grading:

    B+
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    *cough*

    To be honest, it was hard to ignore the reactions to our waifu's assessment that also indirectly referenced me, and naturally, I felt I had to respond. That, and my waifu called me about it, too.

    I tried my best to comply and hold back the ultimate fanboy/stan in me for that one, even though admittedly, it was rather difficult to do. Ninja pretty much got me covered on the waifu aspects though, which is why I didn't need to mention them in my post so that I wouldn't sound like a broken record. Still, everything else rounded up and taken into account and given my experience of her utility-wise, I strongly deem that she is deserving of S- (not that I find A+ bad; it's just... a bit lacking) while I did concede to Yamabuki's brokenness. Had she gotten a trivial ability e.g. Shine Crystal Up, then I'd have my reservations on giving her the S-tier. I am in solidarity with Ninja as far as our verdicts are concerned, thus...
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    If others feel differently, I am sorry you feel that way.
    Now that I got that off my chest, my work here is done, and I can sleep in peace. Carry on, gentlemen.

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    Hanamomo... The loli desu wa mace girl. If I remembered correctly many people seems to be annoyed by her stalked their pulls in Nutaku, but it seems like urban legend to me... Anyway paper only

    1. Raw stat: Her stat is... not so appealing for crit offensive. Slightly better than average HP, meh atk, and rock bottom def. Her speed is high but nothing unfixable. In case you wonder how I grade stat as high, average, or low. The threshold are 20k for hp, 8k for atk, and 3k for def. Spd is 480-620 as average that can be put in anywhere without disturbing helper team.
    Grading: C

    2. Skill: I think back them dev. try to made her skill a fun gimmick, but now you can say it just 5.4x with 38% top. So the same with Ume/Sakura.
    Grading: A

    3. Abilities: Her ability is hybrid of Ume and Sakura with both toned down a bit.
    -Atk+22% is standard, nothing to say.
    -15% crit rate and 30% crit damage is fine for crit team. 30% is not so overwhelming anymore with new 50-55% damage. Not bad by any means, however.
    -20% extra atk and 15% damage vs. boss is top class sync. The atk boost is not so much but damage boost definitely is and both goes well together. She can add extra spice in pure crit team if you decided to add her in the team as well.
    -20% def boost and 3.7% damage reduction when guard+guts is not really that useful for her however. Guts chance depends on def and Hanamomo's def is one of the worst for rainbow. She can add a bits for her teammate however. This one is ugly duckling in her otherwise awesome abilities set.
    Grading: A

    Final verdict: A with a drop towards A- however. Hanamomo has great abilities and skill that works well together. In exchange of that her stat is just so... disappointed. In a power creep meta there are more and more girls with broken abilities and high stat goes together. So Hanamomo seems a bit lacking, but in exchange she open boss killer/ crit hybrid as option for your team as well. So for me, she get round up to A.

    Extra: The desu wa girl who strives to be proper lady yet doesn't even know how to kiss... I guess Japanese like this trope so much.
    Her skill remind me of this however.
    HBC's FKG 6* Tier List-100t.jpeg
    Anyone here ever read/watch this masterpiece?

    Extra of extra: Somethings wrong here? #Kurenai
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    Quote Originally Posted by game2534 View Post
    Extra of extra: Somethings wrong here? #Kurenai
    Don't fret. I just wanted to make it clear to everyone that like Ninja, I didn't give my girl a certain grade for no apparent reason (I know I'm very late).

    Anything that concerns my girl, I will always have something to say.
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    It's Mace-Loli time! I really like the concept of a magical loli ith a cute crystal staff infused with GIANT SPICKED PINK MACE magic. That's so cool.
    Like almost everytime, I put the little PaperOnly tag.

    Stats:
    HP: Good ones. Closer to the top than the bottom. She has no actual defensive purpose but why not. A good stat is alwas good.
    ATK: That's under average. Not very good Mace Loli-chan. But at least,that's still better than some other unlucky 6* (Hi Red Ginger).
    DEF: Magical Mace Loli don't need DEF. She only need the Pink Magical Mace Power. Well. Her DEF is very low but she avoid top 10 from the bottom by one place. Good job. I guess.


    Skill
    x5~x5.4 Damages depending on affection and normal 38% skill act on max skill level. I don't know why she has damages depending on affection but that's not a big deal since she will be max affection anyway.
    That's a good skill, very classic. Perfect with most of her abilities.
    I'm not very sure but if i remember, she deals all the damages in one time like Kerria. It's a good way to judge her power, unlike girls dealing tons of little damages. Even if it's not important, I like it and I give her a bonus candy.

    Abilities
    Ok we will start with the UFO here:
    +20% DEF for all, defending bonus and Guts
    I don't know why she have it and it's not very useful on it. Depite her good HP, her def is too low. And she is not even a counter. Guts can be useful for her and let her deals more damages if she use her skill.
    However, she has a tiny little place in offensive Counter Teams with her DEF boost + Crit and Damages on Bosses.

    +22% ATK for all
    That's good and classic for the great part of 6*. Nothing much to say. Good for support, good for her.

    +20% ATK on boss fight
    That's not bad. It gives +42% ATK on bosses with her previous ability and that's good. It also make a good combo with her heavy damage skill.

    +15% Crit Rate / +30% Crit Damages
    Crit Rate buff is a bit low. If she want to be in a Crit Team, she will need strong allies. Crit Damage buff is good. She is not the best Crit girl but she still has a good potential.

    +15% Damages against bosses
    That's a good one. It gives her a place has boss killer or just a place in a Boss Killer Team. It's even better for this rôle with her +42% ATk, Crit buff and skill. Even if she can't be the heroine in the battle, she is still a strong support for the better girls.

    Team Build
    Like I don't remember who does, i'll add a Team Build part.
    Like i said earlier, she can be very solid in a Boss Killer Team. As support. Or, if she is supposed to be the best damage dealer, she will need heavy skill act. That's her greater lack here.
    She also remains in a classic Counter Team. She brings a good Crit Damage buff and very goods ATK+Damages on bosses boost. But, she has a low Crit Rate buff and she will need to be surrounded by girls with a really high Crit Rate if you want 80% Crit Rate. And a bit of Skill act too. Even if she don't fit the needed qualities here, Cactus can be a good friend for her.
    And she also have a little use in Counter Teams. Even if she is not defensive at all, she brings a nice offensive being. Her DEF buff help the Counter Girls and both Crit and Boss Damages affect Counter Damages. All her offensive support can be good with the few Couter+HP drain girls we had recently (i'm not sure if there is that much natural 6* with thoses assets).

    Conclusion
    Not the best by herself and not very good stats but she is still a good 6*. Her skill damages can change a battle if she wants (and if she has the right friends on her sides) and she carries a lot of useful abilities for various teams styles. Even unexepected one's.
    She may be not THE must have with higest priority but she is a solid and very flexible 6* with a place in a lot of teams (unlike some very good 6* with almost no options).

    Final verdict:
    I will give her a A Tier. I know it's a bit high and she is close enough from B Tier to scrap it with her mace but I still give her this one because she is easy to use and to insert in a good team. Even if she is not as good as Cactus, Sakura or the other A Tier, she can do a good job almost everywere, as main damage dealer or as supporter.


    game> yeah, I watch it... few years ago. Never read it however. It was funny to see that picture. Good memories
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    Ok Hanamomo Discussion is over.

    She'll be put in A-Tier.

    Next Girl:

    http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Anemone
    Deadline: 05.07.2018
    Last edited by Wutan; 06-30-2018 at 04:04 PM.

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