Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

Uggghhh sorry guys, I'll start participating now. But a disclaimer, I can't post essays like you guys, I'm not good enough (I'm not worthy!!) and lack of time, so for each I'll be short and to the point.

Ionocidium: I've had her for a while now. She is good overall, but as mentioned, I can't fit her in any one particular archetype, just an overall pretty decent character.

HP @ 20k, almost dropping down to 19's: lower half of bracket, actually never realized 'till now.
ATK @ 7,798, slotting in around half way, it's alright. I guess.
DEF: 3,,52: around top 30 placing, so yay. But she is not counter, so can't take full adv. of this.

She is evade character, so a plus. That 40% react is a bonus, and 1.2x skill act. is a nice padding to any teams needing some extra activation. +18% ATK is regrettably lower than most girls.

Still, I really like her (DERPY >_<); but I feel she needs a good buff to stay in the top pack. Personally, I don't think she is as low as C, so I give her B rating

I dont agree with the arguments for B. Especially when you compare her to other B grade girls who stomp her like a weed.
Guys please, dont be so generous.
Again this is the problem with having an S tier, people subconsciously compare everyone to Kerria and Saffron and then think of B as C and of C as D.
We should have skipped Kerria and Saffron completely just nodding that yes they are S, and move on coz its skewing the ratings a lot.

I am not chastising nor complaining. I do respect your vote. But it bothers me that there are clearly more powerful girls who are also B tier.
At this rate we will end up with all girls being A/B even though not all of them deserve to be, very few being C, and pretty much no girl or only 1-2 in D.

Well looks it was good i let the discussion stay open for a little longer this time. We have 4 votes now:
2x B-Tier
2x C-Tier

If you guys don't mind i will vote the last this time and close the discussion afterwards.

I have Iono myself. I used her for a while in my Evade Team until i decided not using an Evade Team anymore. It's just not my playstyle. So what do i think about Iono?

Stats:

HP:20034
Good.

Atk:7798
Mediocre

Defense: 3152
Not in Top 30. Still Very good.

Grading: Not amazing but still good and dandy. B-Tier

Skill Damage Type and Skill Activation Chance:
Deals 2.8x damage to all enemies 27% (Lv1) → 37% (Lv5)

Grading: Standard for so many AOE Girls. Nothing special still good. B-Tier

Abilities:

Increases Attack for party members by 18%.
Below Average. There are even 5* which are able to buff for 18%. That's a No NO. In my opinion a 6* should always excel better in all areas compared to 5*. Not a good start.

Increases Skill Activation Rate for party members up to 1.2x based on each member's affection.
Good. Nothing special though.

Increases Damage of Skills for party members by 10%.
Again below average. For the Skilldamage Archetype there are girls which are much better suited like: Maple, Anemone (Radiant Princess), Loquat and Aizoon for a Crit/Skilldamage Hybrid.

Evades enemy attacks 80% of the time for 2 turn(s), then 50% of the time afterwards.
Bread and Butter for Evasion Teams. Therefore good.

After attacking an enemy, there's a 40% chance to Act Again.
Well to be honest to me the 40% feels more like 25%. That's really a subjective feeling i know but for me she barely triggered her second Attack. Again she is outclassed by many other girls like Cactus, Rainbow Rose, Hare's Ear etc. I would either use Dendrobium (especially after they buffed her she is a Monster and we voting her A-Tier was the right choice) and only have one powerfull turn than relying on those 40%.

Grading: Well that is definetely her weakest section. She is outclassed by other Evasion Girls, Skilldamage Girls, Double Strike Girls and even the Group Atk buff doesn't reach Standard Levels. I am aware that Evasion and Double Strike is a good Combo cause it gives her more opportunities to trigger her second Attack but based on my own observations and experience she never impressed me and rarely was able to double strike for two consecutive turns. I would rather use someone like Royal Water Lily (June Bride) who guarantees me a Damage Boost than Iono who relies to much on RNG. 50% Double Strike is the threshold and those 10% make a huge difference based on my observations. C-Tier

Conclusion: Iono is a decent Rainbow. She doesn't excel in any field though. Overall there are other girls i prefer more. She can dish out fairly good damage in Evasion Teams if you are lucky enough that she consecutively hits her second Attacks. In my opinion 40% chance is just a little bit to low to be viable. I was torn between B- and C+ but in the end i went with C+. She just never impressed me in the time i have been using her.

Final Grading: C+

I will end the discussion shortly after my vote. We are way over the Deathline.

Ok the Iono Discussion has officaly ended.

She will end up in C-Tier

Next Girl:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Nerine
Deadline: 11.08.2018

Ok i might as well vote today so i don't vote last minute again.

I don't have Nerine so this is paper verdict only.

Stats:

HP: 18727
Absolutely atrocious. There are only three rainbows who have worse HP than her. That alone speaks glass canon but more on that later.

Atk: 8644
Same as Pink. The Highest Atk in the game currently. Really Really Awesome.

Defense: 3044
It's good enough.

Grading: Despite the fact she has the same Atk as Pink i can't give her the same grade as Pink (S-). Nerine has way lower HP and Defense compared to Pink. Her Atk barely managed to safe her from C-Tier here. I will be generous here and give her B-

Skill Damage Type and Skill Activation Chance:

Deals 2.9x damage to all enemies
24% (Lv1) → 34% (Lv5)

I would like the other version with more Skill Act. and a little less damage more on her to be honest. This is the weaker form of AOE Damage in my humble opinion.

Grading: B-

Abilities:

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Increases Attack for party members by 30%.
That's nice. 10% above average. Good job,Girl.

Increases Skill Activation Rate for party members by 1.28~1.36x based on one's own Skill Level (1~5).
By now you should now how much i love that ability. You almost get two girls in terms of Skill Act for one if you decide to invest Equipment Flowers.

Increases Damage of Skills for party members by 15%.
Good Ability. Not amazing on it's own but stacked with others really potent.

Increases Defense for party members by 30%, increases damage reduction when defending by 5.3%, and allows oneself to resist fainting with 1 HP remaining up to 3 times per battle.
That Ability somewhat negates her bad HP cause you have to possibility to resist fainting three times in one battle. That Ability is really good but to me it looks like Nerine has some sort of Identity Crisis. Does she want to be a Hard Hitting Glass Canon or a Bulky Defender Type of Character? Still that Ability is always good to have.

Ignores effects from Speed-altering panels in maps.

Except for that one Ability her Ability Package looks good.

Grading:
B

Team Building
The only archetype where she really shines and i would even say she is a stable is the Skill Damage Archetype. Her superior Skill Act. Ability and Her Skill Damage Ability make a nice combo. For all other Archetypes she just functions as a placeholder.

Conclusion:
Nice Girl for Skill Damage Teams (might even be a stable). For other Archetypes she just functions as a Placeholder Rainbow with nice Skill Act. Support.

Final Verdict:

If she is used in a dedicated Skill Damage Team: B
If she is used in any other archetype: C+

The B-Vote counts cause i always judge Girls based on their best performance in the Archetype they fit into the most.

Originally Posted by Myrdin

I dont agree with the arguments for B. Especially when you compare her to other B grade girls who stomp her like a weed.
Guys please, dont be so generous.
Again this is the problem with having an S tier, people subconsciously compare everyone to Kerria and Saffron and then think of B as C and of C as D.
We should have skipped Kerria and Saffron completely just nodding that yes they are S, and move on coz its skewing the ratings a lot.

I am not chastising nor complaining. I do respect your vote. But it bothers me that there are clearly more powerful girls who are also B tier.
At this rate we will end up with all girls being A/B even though not all of them deserve to be, very few being C, and pretty much no girl or only 1-2 in D.

Relax. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I myself was thinking of a higher C but ultimately, by my own judgment, thought it was fair enough to make her a low B. Sure, lots of other B girls are better. But that's my opinion. You may not agree with it. You may not like it. But at the end of the day, it's mine. But that is what voting is about as various people look at different aspects and judge based on their individual personality and perception. So if you personally don't agree with what some people grade, that's fine. But leave it at that. No need to call others out with it. In the end, this is all about fun with a game we all enjoy.

I might as well judge the next girl while I'm on here too. Nerine is another girl I have not had on either side of FKG, but I haven't really seen her as much in helper teams as I did Ino.


Analysis
Starting off with her stats, her HP is pretty disappointing. Having HP at 18700 is not really impressive considering she as an average DEF around 3K. Her highlight is having pretty impressive ATK at 8600 roughly. So while she is not a glass canon precisely, she approaches that level of fragility it seems to me. Her skill is an AOE which is nice considering she is a little better than other at 2.9X DMG.

Now looking at her abilities She has a decent increase ATK of 30% for the team. Increasing skill activation level based upon skill level along with a 15% boost to skill damage is a nice combination to support fully developed teams. She also does a good job for her team by increasing their DEF by 30%, DMG reduction by 5.3% and resist fainting up to 3 times. Not a bad ability there either. But the Achilles heel (ironic pun intended) is her ability to ignore speed altering panels. Which is basically rendered irrelevant come late came. So it is a wasted ability slot. When you look overall at her abilities, she doesn't appear to fit in any specific meta that is favored for team compositions. Her abilities are just common with no specific specialty like Crit or Debuff.

The shortness of the analysis sums up what I think. She doesn't have much going for her. Overall I would initially consider her barely hanging on to a B- on first glance, but those poor stats and wasted ability slot combined with a lack of specialty just brings her down hard to what I have to say makes her C Tier undoubtedly in my opinion.

Waifu judgment

Loli. Automatic F Tier!!!! Nope! Nada! Not gonna happen!