Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

Nerine. I don't have her or her bride version. I don't love her, I don't hate her. Totally neutral paper rating this time.

Stats:
HP: she has the 3rd worst HP from natural rainbow (4th if I counter Alstroemaria but I don't count her obviously). That's not a good thing. Even if she is not a defensive girl.
ATK: Highest ATK of the game with Pink. Good point.
DEF: Her def is okay. Average DEF but enough for me.
That girl knows how to go from an extreme to another. Hopefully, she did it right but her low HP is still a problem, espacially with all thoses super strong pests.

Skill
2.9x damages all, 34% skill rate. Sorry Nerine but it's the same than the other girls. 2.8x dmg, 37% skill is better. But it's still good and classic for a rainbow. Nothing much to say here.

Abilities
Ignores effects from Speed-altering panels in maps.
Useless now. And I wonder if it was usefull at any moment of the game. Lila is enough for it, Dipladenia is good too. And no rainbow should have this kind of ability. Sorry Nerine and Christmas Rose.

+30% ATK for all
It's above the usual buff for all. Not thebest but really nice. Good point for her.

1.36x skill activation
Another good ability. Very appreciable and still rare in the game.

+15% skill damages
I guess it's good? I really don't know how to rate this. On the paper it's not bad but I don't really know if there is any skill damage steam archetype and if it's viable or not. But it goes well with her skill rate buff so, why not.

+30% DEF for all and guts
Not bad because of Guts but not good because it's not usefull. She is not a counter girl or a really defensive girl and it looks just like a bonus ability. Nice to have but not needed.

She has some good assets with her ATK buff and her skil act buff but that's almost all. Nothing really exciting here.

Team Build
Nerine is very flexible and can go everywhere in almost every team... if you don't have better girl. She don't bring really good things aside her skill rate. She can't fit in every (or almost every) serious archetype and there will always be gorls better than her. And I know I should not compare girls but there is also Christmas Rose in the game, very similar with speed panel thing and skill rate... with a way better utility for Crit Team.
Sorry Nerine. You're not bad on the paper and can be great as placeholder but you suffer too much from concurrency.

Conclusion
Extreme stats, good skill and a lot of useless or not usefull abilities. Good everywhere, exeptionnal nowhere. Nerine is not bad but it' hard to find HER place. She can do a lot of jobs (even in some offensive version of Counter Teams) but there is always better girls to replace her.
Like I said, the only team type made for her could be Skill damage team (and I'm not even sure of it) but I'm not even sure it's a real team archetype.

Final verdict:
C Tier because you don't actually need her. It's good if you found her in gacha but there is so much other better girls to choose if you want to build a solid team.
Maybe you will be better in the future Nerine. If devs want it.

With everything everyone's already said, while a really high ATK is nice, but for many players, building a team around a arhtype is arguably more important than raw stat power.

Given her abilities, it's already been stated she does not fit into any one particular typing; with exception of speed negation, all her other abilities can be useful in some situation, especially that 1.36x skill act. She also have DEF boost, but no counter, which makes her like a half-finished project...So she can fit in any team, boosting its existing skillsets, but she won't be a "make-it-or-break" team member because of her lack of specialization.

On a side note, many loli-fans seem to like her design. So while she is general enough to fit in many teams, she has a lack of specialized skillset to distinguish herself amongst today's power-creep, she might be fading if she does not get buffed. Her 1.36x skill act. is nothing to scoff at, but it's about the only feature I can give points on. So C TIER is my vote.

Ok the Nerine Discussion is over.

C-Tier it is.

Btw. guys since nobody except game gave me an answer about adding +/- to to our Tierlist and his answer was positive i will add the suffix + and - to our ruleset. I will also add +/- to our older votes if necessary. I do this to differentiate between the girls even more.

Next Girl:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Water_Lily
Deadline: 16.08.2018

Sorry, I didn't see that. But I'm okay. That' a good idea.

I'll rate Royal Water Lily a bit later because I just did Nerine few hours ago.

Ok here is my Ōonibasu Vote. I don't have her so it's a Paper Verdict only.

Stats:

HP:19544
Definetely on the lower side of the spectrum.

Atk:8012
Good.

Defense:2976
Mediocre

Grading: Her Stats are pretty mediocre overall. Not horrbile but also nothing to write home about. If she just had a litte bit more Atk i would have given her B here but as it stands it's only: B-

Skill Damage Type and Skill Activation Chance:
Deals 2.9x damage to all enemies 24% (Lv1) → 34% (Lv5)

Grading: The slightly weaker form of the AOE-Family. Therefore B-

Abilities:

Increases Damage of Skills for party members by 12%.
It's below average. The Standard Group buff in terms of increased Skill Damage is 15%. So it's not a good start.

After being attacked, increases Skill Activation Rate for party members by 2x on the next turn.
It's a nice Ability if you know how to use it. This Skill only really shines if you use it combined with Debuff Support. Only a few Girls have that Skill. I will call it Rage Ability from now on.

Increases Attack for party members by 33%.
Good and Solid Atk Buff.

Increases Defense for party members by 25%, increases damage reduction when defending by 4.5%, and allows oneself to resist fainting with 1 HP remaining up to 3 times per battle.
Again the Defense Buff is below average. It should be 30% or more.

Grading:
She has a Skill which is rare and makes an interesting option for Debuff Teams. Her other 3 Skills are just not that impressive to me though. I don't know i would like to see the devs give her at least a fifth Ability. As it is right now she lacks that certain something.
C

Teambuilding:
I talked briefly about this but the only team where i can see her shine is as a Provoke Unit in a 65%-70% Debuff Squad. There are many other good Alternatives for that Archetype in terms of Damage Dealing options though. Kerria, Streptocarpus or Sleepy-chan for example.

Conclusion:
In a Debuff Squad she can be good but you could also use Streptocarpus there instead. She has the same Rage Ability just like Royal Water Lily but is a better unit in my opinion cause she also can give the Debuff Team a nice form of Crit Support and help creating a Debuff/Crit Hybrid Team. Overall i think Royal Water Lily is a decent unit but she is outclassed by other girls in the Debuff Archetype.

Final Verdict: C

Royal Paper Lily, Water only rating. Or something like that.

Stats:
HP: They're close to my needed 20k but still under. Not really good in my opinion.
ATK: Just over 8k. She is on the good side of the fence but she is still far from the top.
DEF: Under 3k. Same comment than HP stat.
Her stats are a bit too meh for me. Too close for the minimum needed but two of them are close from the wrong side.

Skill
2.9x damages to all, 34% skill rate.
Same comment than Nerine. I think 2.8x, 34% is better. But it's not bad. Nothing much to say here. It's a pretty classic 6* skill like almost every 6*.

Abilities
+33% ATK for all
That's good and over the average. It's a nice buff for everything and everyone.

After being attacked, increases Skill Activation Rate for party members by 2x on the next turn.
I don't know if it's a good ability or not. On the paper it's a good thing but with her low HP and DEF... I wonder how much attack she can take. I will put it in the "really nice but not reliable at all" category.

+12% skill damages for all
Good but under the average. It should be at least +15%

+25% DEF for all and Guts
Still under the average. It should be +30%. But anyway, she is not even a counter. The good side of it is Guts. It pair really well with her special x2 skill rate after being attacked. Not that bad, even if it's not really good.

Team Build
Bench?
Seriously, she is like many girls we rated recently. she can be in every team because she is not that bad but she don't have a specific job. She just tries to do a bit of everything. She can't even be in a counter team for her DEF buff because almost all the others 6* brings more DEF buff.

Conclusion
She is another rainbow, lost in the rainbow pool. Not bad but not good. She stands outa bit with her special skill rate ability but it's not good enough to make her better than the other. it seems she get a buff last week but she will need another (or more than one other) to really shines.
And her Bride Version is better with Evade ability.

Final verdict:
For me she is C- Tier. For her too under averages stats and abilities, for her lack of specialization and her better Bride Version.
To me, her best point is her Artist. Even if she is not good, she is made by my favorite FKG Artist so, I still like her.

Ms. Yandere goddess turn? For Nazuna's sake she must be the most dangerous woman in this game. Let's talk about this prospect of her in extra as usual, for now let's go with paper only grading.

1. Raw stat: Her stat is not really that good. It's mediocre in almost every way. She has high speed though. 500 short of HP, bits over 8000 atk, and a little shy from 3000 def. Yep, mediocre. A little more atk would help her sweep or higher def would sync with her ability.
Grading: C+

2. Skill: Like Nerine I would like it better with 2.8x and 37% act chance. In Ōonibasu case it's worse than Nerine though since her atk is much lower so her efficiency as sweeper is lower too.
Grading: C+

3. Abilities: Her abilities are almost all under average. Her atk+33% for all is higher than average though.
Increases Damage of Skills for party members by 12% we have 15% for almost every girls, so this one is kinda pale compare to others.
After being attacked, increases Skill Activation Rate for party members by 2x on the next turn I don't have detective-chan to compare like wutan so I don't really know. But in my case I have Stock with 35% damage boost after being attacked. In Stock case it's very reliable since Stock has higher def(3282) combined with her 30% def boost, 5.3% damage reduction and guts so she can last quite long especially in debuff team. Ōonibasu has lower def and her def boost skill is lower with 25% boost and 4.5% reduction and guts combo. So for me, she won't last as long and thus made this skill not very reliable in the long run.
Grading: C-

Final Verdict: She is not that good rainbow especially with her bride counterpart is much better in bait and counter strategy. I guess she's in C-tier. C- even. There's much better than her in almost every position you want to fit her in, whether as sweeper, or bait, or supporter.

Extra: Ōonibasu aka. Ms. Yandere. We have couples of Yandere characters here like Suzuran, Lavender, or questionable one like Dipladenia. Ōonibasu however, must be the most dangerous because she doesn't care jack about you as yourself. She care for one thing about you though. That is your body. She finds your body (Knight Commander) beautiful and want to keep it for herself. You can die for all she cares but your body must be intact so she can 'love' it for eternity. Compares to Suzuran which is possessive type, or Lavender who is jealousy type. Ōonibasu is very dangerous. Dipladenia seems like someone who wish for person who accept her as she is and not use her as a tool however. So rather than Yandere, she seems like a delinquent girl who finally find a teacher who understand and accept her as she is. So she sticks to you and will listen to everything you told her.

In short, Ōonibasu is the worst case of Yandere for me. Not worst in a bad meaning, but worst in 'worst kind you want to interact with'

Royal Water Lily is another rainbow I have not experienced having either on Nutaku or DMM. However, I do remember her being very popular and visible on the Nutaku side. Not so much on the DMM side though.

Analysis

RWL's HP below 20K is a bit disappointing but it is not out of the ordinary for Slice types to have a little lower HP it seems. Her ATK is not the best in the game but it is still impressive at over 8K. So she'll hit hard when she does. Her DEF is also disappointing being below 3K. It's not a crushingly low DEF, but still hurts to see. So she is pretty just below average in stats in my opinion. She does have a good AOE at the slightly higher 2.9x. So the few turns she survives, RWL has the potential at least to do some decent damage to all pests on the screen.

Now for her abilities. Well it seems even more disappointment awaits. The one good skill I see from her is that she buffs the skill activation rate by 2x for her team the next turn after she is attacked. Now if she could potentially survive quite a few turns, this would allow her team to become late game changers and hit their skills more frequently in longer lasting battles like RB. But that is a big question on how many hits she can take. Her DEF skill for party members is nice, but it isn't the best version of this skill. So average at best. And otherwise she increases the damage of the skills of her team by 12% and increases overall ATK to by 33%. While these are not bad in themselves, this rounds her out to a ability set that doesn't let her fit well in much any scheme from what I can tell. This can hurt team building potential.

So all in all, she is a pretty decent rainbow. Her lackluster stats and the wasted potential of her ability set hampering her from fitting into many end game strategies make me have to give her a grade of: C Tier

Waifu judgment

Don't get me wrong, Royal Water Lily is a beautiful woman!...….. But she's crazy! Never stick your mighty Danchou into crazy fellas! She's wielding an axe as a giant sign that is blinking in bright neon "WILL CHOP YOUR PRIDE OFF!" So RWL is hot, but bitch be crazy. So hell no! D Tier