Thread: Re-balance Feedbacks

First of all, I'll start with the in-game Economy, since I think it suffered the most.

One of the biggest issues for me is the sharp drop in the items' value when you try to sell it. I was kind of annoyed with the 'sell-value' at first, when it was 50%. But reducing it to something lesser than 20% is just insane. With an inventory containing countless items(equipment), do you image what kind of a loss I experienced? At the same time, the equipment pieces are even more expensive than they were before. As for this new change about not looting items from these, "Trolls", I guess, I think I'm okay with that, considering the heavily modified value of an item.

The other big issue, is the requirements needed for an "upgrade" of a girl. I mean, okay, it is a 4th and 5th affection scene, but don't you think that the 6-digit number, you want for an upgrade from 4 to 5 stars, is a bit much. It literally needs less than a half of a hundred thousand bucks to become a 7-digit number. I also noticed something, and here is Question #1: Why are the Affection values for the same affection scene(in order) different for different girls and also why did I give a certain amount of Affection for a 4-star Scene, and need to give about 20% higher than this certain amount, in order to get a 2-star Affection scene? I literally dropped from 24.6 Million to under 20 Million money in ONE day. Sorry, but I'm not sure if you allow me to use the accurate examples(related to non-private information), so I'll go with that.

Even if it doesn't affect me, I'm still going to ask you a Question #2: What was you motive to raise the "Re-stock" option's price?

Since you want feedbacks, I'm going to share with you, that I'm very displeased with the fact the my ~235k Exp, turned to a value, that's only enough to start from the begging of level 40. Also, I appreciate the change of (+4) Strength at level 40, thanks for that.

On the other hand, I want to express my gratitude, for rewarding me 25 Kobans for finishing today's missions. If you keep that up(which I'm sure you won't) the "present" for finishing all missions could serve as a counterweight, to everything else since that's just massive.

In conclusion, I think the new update was kind of a let down, but I still like it, well, kind of, because I got to see Bunny shine once again, and can't wait to see Juliette. Still, I won't stop the game just yet, to be honest, the first time I played this was exactly on the 1st day of you first Halloween Event, and I've been playing since. But you doing very good, at least in my eyes, since most other games would've lost me by now. Now that's I remember my past with this game, I remembered that one time, after midnight, when I forgot to click on the button to start the 14th event mission(my last chance for...Cupid-chan?, because, you know, life kept me busy for the first 2 days) and lost the event girl. And I was feeling like a retard the next day. K, the last one was needn't but still, keep up the good work!

At least you got you kobans for finishing missions. I have done them early in the morning before update so no kobans for me.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Thats probably close to like 50-100 millions of cash basically lost for older players.

I had my stats capped and lost over 100 million to the change, but it could be worse.

Maxing single stat costed close to 40 millions. So around 119 millions total for all 3 stats. Assuming new upgrade cost increase is something along the way of just 2 each upgrade, we would had like 780 upgrades per stat with average price of around 800, which is less than 2 millions total, so my estimate that we lost close to 100+ millions (before I changed comment to 50-100 millions) was actually accurate cause it seems we actually lost close to 117 millions.

And they ask like millions now for 5th star affection upgrade per girl? Lol. Wonder whats the cost to get 5th star if you have like only 10 girls not close to 60.

EDIT:

My first observation is that the crit % dropped down cause it no longer counts stats on items other than crit % bonuses they have. The old 0,005% crit per single stat point thou seems to still be accurate. Question is if the old cap of 25% crit still stands.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Maxing single stat costed close to 40 millions. So around 119 millions total for all 3 stats. Assuming new upgrade cost increase is something along the way of just 2 each upgrade, we would had like 780 upgrades per stat with average price of around 800, which is less than 2 millions total, so my estimate that we lost close to 100+ millions (before I changed comment to 50-100 millions) was actually accurate cause it seems we actually lost close to 117 millions.

And they ask like millions now for 5th star affection upgrade per girl? Lol. Wonder whats the cost to get 5th star if you have like only 10 girls not close to 60.

Affection scene cost for the 4th and 5th star seems to be the same if you have 20+ girls... Which makes the costs even worse, because without 50+ girls it's quite hard to afford the prices. Though I'm basing that on third party info, not something I confirmed for myself.

I would argue that even with 50+ girls its to damn expensive if all you get back is around 200 more coins/h. You are basically investing for months for just upgrade scene and a new pose, where I personally use nearly always only first or second poses - as a leg guy who loves over-the-knee socks I hate most later poses as they lose the socks/pantyhose ;]

EDIT:

With help of few white items that boost crit and a crit booster food I confirm that crit still caps at 25%, thou I don't know if its just visual cap, or actual numbers cap too. Thou frankly speaking if that cap is numbers cap too, its retarded, with 360 more levels, and shit tone of stats upgrades added, you will be able to reach the damn cap with just stats upgrades alone, why then sell the food for kobans now (they were for cash before IIRC) and have so much crit buffing items? Just for people with lower levels?

Just for sake of math clarity - all you need to get to 25% crit from stats alone is 5k combined stats. So 1667 each and you are done. Thou just your base upgraded stats not stats from items cause like I mentioned in previous post - those don't count towards crit anymore (probably to offset leveled items with higher stats).

I'm wondering did something break with gifts? I don't remember exactly how much affection they gave before but it seems really low now. Like I need more than 30 rare underwear to upgrade my girl. Or did they lower the affection given by everything but forget to lower the requirements for some of them?

The affection given by items gone down hard. I mean cheapest one gives like 3... They did decrease required affection per stage, but I don't know how much. Something tells me that requirement dropped less than what items give, with the mentioned items price going up hard, the overall cost of upgrading affection of girls gone up even harder...

Purchase prices have gone through the roof, selling prices are 10% rather than 50% before the update, cash/hr is down some 30% for most girls I have access to (Bunny is up about 100%, and Red Battler, Juliette, and Ankyo are up roughly the same amount), item yields look to be lower than the equivalent decrease in required affection/experience.

Not sure if it's just me, but my ego dropped from 9500~ to 4000~ overnight and I can't actually see why. It's the only combat value that I noticed had changed.

It is not an update that feels particularly friendly to the player.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

The affection given by items gone down hard. I mean cheapest one gives like 3... They did decrease required affection per stage, but I don't know how much. Something tells me that requirement dropped less than what items give, with the mentioned items price going up hard, the overall cost of upgrading affection of girls gone up even harder...

For lower amounts of girls, it seems to be easier to increase affection (in terms of items needed), and if you have more girls then you need to use more items than before.