Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

What are the optimal wind kamihimes for a burst team? Pulling Hanuman from premium ticket gacha (which I still have a hard time believing) and barely a week ago I've already pulled Hraesvelgr, I feel like the game is telling to start making a wind team pronto. The only wind SSR I have at the moment are Titania and Hastur.

So I just finished with skill leveling my main element grid (fire)... Which element should I work on next? The SSRs of the other elements I have are:
Thunder - Brahma AW
Wind - Cybele U
Water - None
Light - Metatron AW
Dark - None
I have no 100% eidos

Originally Posted by Rea

So I just finished with skill leveling my main element grid (fire)... Which element should I work on next? The SSRs of the other elements I have are:
Thunder - Brahma AW
Wind - Cybele U
Water - None
Light - Metatron AW
Dark - None
I have no 100% eidos

The SSRs you have are all pretty good, but by themselves is not nearly enough to rival a leveled up fire team (I assume you have some good SSRs on that team), so I would decide based on events.

Thunder would be the standard complement to cover fire's weakness to water, but the next water event is next week, and then not another one for a few months, so I would work on the wind grid, since you will need it for tower.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

That setup is a pretty good defensive build (-40% atk + BP equivalent + orb eat + heal.) If you can tank dmg just fine, you can always replace Hades with Berith, who hits much harder. You can also consider swapping Dark Amat for Amon U, which moves you from 45% to 50% def down (they changed Amon U from A to C frame, so it stacks with Satan now, but messed it up for ppl like me who was previously using Amon U with Thanatos.)

Wonderful...no wonder why I felt like my damage was lacking.

Amon U for Dark Amat seemed like the most logical move since Amon's rework, but I guess was too afraid of losing the debuffs Dark Amat gave.

The other major move I thought would be a swap of Hades or Osiris for Pluto, but is Berith better than Pluto in terms of damage output (Self Atk buff vs. all party attack buff?). And would Hades AW be a better option than either Pluto/Berith?

Just full disclosure, my Berith, Pluto and Osiris are all on different accounts, and I don't own any limited edition himes, so the following is based on theory rather than actual experience. People that run real dark teams should correct me if I am getting anything wrong.

Originally Posted by Skyryder

but I guess was too afraid of losing the debuffs Dark Amat gave.

You are losing 20% atk down and BP. Amon U covers 15% light atk down, has rage punishing skill and stun extension in exchange, so you may not be losing as much as you think, but that is dependent on what you are fighting.

Originally Posted by Skyryder

The other major move I thought would be a swap of Hades or Osiris for Pluto

I personally like Osiris for the team burst gen, but you can potentially access burst gen and/or DATA buffs from eidolons as well. Do note that if you don't run Andromeda as soul, dropping Osiris means full glass cannon, which is fine if you have high defender values.

Originally Posted by Skyryder

but is Berith better than Pluto in terms of damage output (Self Atk buff vs. all party attack buff?)

This is my AAB-bias creeping through. You are correct, if you are not on AAB, having Pluto's buffs up when you FB is definitely worth more than Berith's dmg potential.

Originally Posted by Skyryder

And would Hades AW be a better option than either Pluto/Berith?

It comes largely down to how much hp you have. Hades, especially AW is very good at limiting enemy dmg potential, but not good for dealing dmg.

Now that I have thought about this a little more, I would rank the swaps as follows from least to most aggressive:

1. Swap Dark Amat for Amon U sacrifices the least in defense for a 10% gain in dmg
2. Swap Osiris for Pluto or Berith. You lose heal for dmg cut or taunt/intercept combo, and lose burst gen for higher atk (ok, I know Osiris has other skills, too, but they are not as important imo.) Hard to say whether those are improvements or not without some testing on whatever you are fighting.
3. Swap Hades for Berith/Pluto - you will likely take a noticeable hit in how long your team can survive, especially if Hades is AW. You should see a noticeable increase in dmg as well though, at least while you are alive.

Originally Posted by ChaoticShinra

What are the optimal wind kamihimes for a burst team? Pulling Hanuman from premium ticket gacha (which I still have a hard time believing) and barely a week ago I've already pulled Hraesvelgr, I feel like the game is telling to start making a wind team pronto. The only wind SSR I have at the moment are Titania and Hastur.

Not sure where everyone is. I will take a stab at this as well since no one else commented.

Firstly, congrats on Hanuman! I wish I had that luck, too!

Are you asking for miracle ticket advice or trying to see if you can build a burst team with SR/R filling the gaps? If the latter, I think the answer is no, all the bursty himes that wind is famous for are all SSR. Titania is one of them actually, and Hastur has strong A frame def down, so you actually have a pretty good start to a wind team. The closest bursty SR/R I can think of are Sytry, an event specific hime that can boost everyone's burst, and Charis, who has a team-wide DATA buff. Neither are particularly strong at speeding up your team but they are actually pretty good for being an SR or R respectively.

I don't feel qualified to give mtix advice, well, not for wind at least. Someone should verify, but my understanding is that Cybele U is generally considered core for almost any wind build. She is probably the most consistent DATAer in the game with some helpful skills as well. Cybele plus Hastur plus Hraes will hit the def down cap. Cu Chulainn is probably also a priority if you want burst speed, and gets even faster with the upcoming awakening. Titania can be awakened as well and also becomes faster after doing so.

Lol Thanks. Low key wish it was another 100% Eido I don't have so I can have more teams with one since I've already pulled Hraesvelgr just last week too. And well more like what himes to be on the look out for as I pull more more till I'm fully finish with my first team, my fire team. So be on the lookout for at least those 2 himes, got it.

Is there any reason to reroll from nutaku to dmm eng?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is there any reason to reroll from nutaku to dmm eng?

No, unless the nutaku server close.
You won't be able to import your nutaku data anyway.

Originally Posted by Torkov

No, unless the nutaku server close.
You won't be able to import your nutaku data anyway.

I have only rank 40 acc on nutaku so it's not late to reroll. But I've got account arround id 1000000 on dmm en (which also has chinese/taiwanese etc), while on nutaku there is already 8kk accs so it gives me a feeling that dmm en is dead.