Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by nut

It's still "守護神" guardian, they even using the english word "guardian" for itAttachment 12315

Thanks.

Not really smart of them to use the same term in two places... although I guess 守護神 and 守護天使 isn't the EXACT same. Oh well.

Alright, my light team was able to demolish the rank 5 dark accessory quests! No losses at all, it actually felt easy... And to think that just two weeks ago I needed two elixirs to get through it. You guys' advice has been super helpful.

And that tip about letting the debuffs expire in the guild order worked out too, as I was able to complete both the Arthur and 3 SR-or-lower-hime missions in one go. The only one I didn't get done was 3 Attack type hime. I'm not sure how many of the new set of missions I'll be able to get done, though. They look harder overall. But I should be able to do the 2 healers one today, which will give me 10 points and a second orichalcon. I can use that to do my first-ever FBL! Only one I have ready right now is Brutal Lance Typhoeus, but that's fine since I should be working on my Fires anyway for the tower. My Phoenix Bow and Armageddon Lance might never be FBL'd though since I don't have enough event materials for them. Sigh.

Oh, and if I'm working on my Fires, what soul should I be using? I'm working on building up my Idea Regalia for a soul weapon. I'm assuming Herc. And what about Darks, do they want Shingen or Herc too?

Originally Posted by Argo

Alright, my light team was able to demolish the rank 5 dark accessory quests! No losses at all, it actually felt easy... And to think that just two weeks ago I needed two elixirs to get through it. You guys' advice has been super helpful.

And that tip about letting the debuffs expire in the guild order worked out too, as I was able to complete both the Arthur and 3 SR-or-lower-hime missions in one go. The only one I didn't get done was 3 Attack type hime. I'm not sure how many of the new set of missions I'll be able to get done, though. They look harder overall. But I should be able to do the 2 healers one today, which will give me 10 points and a second orichalcon. I can use that to do my first-ever FBL! Only one I have ready right now is Brutal Lance Typhoeus, but that's fine since I should be working on my Fires anyway for the tower. My Phoenix Bow and Armageddon Lance might never be FBL'd though since I don't have enough event materials for them. Sigh.

Oh, and if I'm working on my Fires, what soul should I be using? I'm working on building up my Idea Regalia for a soul weapon. I'm assuming Herc. And what about Darks, do they want Shingen or Herc too?

Dark should be Herc, Fire is depent on your comp and content, if your team fast af ( Uriel AW, Svarog AW+tiara, Ares AW+tiara, Acala AW+tiara,... you get my point) and the content is high debuff resist or it’s raid and everyone else will cover debuff for you, then go shingen. Everything else Herc is a no brainer

Originally Posted by Slashley

Thanks.

Not really smart of them to use the same term in two places... although I guess 守護神 and 守護天使 isn't the EXACT same. Oh well.

It's a bit different because the term 守護天使 means Guardian Angel and is basically, an angel. 守護神 on the other hand can imply different "meanings": Guardian Deity, Guardian Spirit(守護霊) or just Guardian and does not have a "fixed form".

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Dark should be Herc, Fire is depent on your comp and content, if your team fast af ( Uriel AW, Svarog AW+tiara, Ares AW+tiara, Acala AW+tiara,... you get my point) and the content is high debuff resist or it’s raid and everyone else will cover debuff for you, then go shingen. Everything else Herc is a no brainer

At the moment my team is Uriel Awakened, Hephaestus, Brynhildr, Mars, with Acala and Ares (both not awakened) as subs. Main Eidolon is Ifrit with 1 break.
Since I don't have Svarog and my Ares and Acala aren't awakened, I guess Herc then. If I get her axe I shouldn't need Sniper Shot anymore, so what would I stick there instead? Trial by Jury, Black Propaganda, or something else?


As for my Darks, I have Satan Awakened, Chernobog, Dark Amaterasu, and Osiris, with Samael and Kali as subs (I do also have Thanatos). Main Eidolon is Trivia.
Do I want to swap Trivia for the new no-star Azathoth I summoned the other day? It's 10% more Atk from the Eidolon effect, but loses the Double Atk rate up and her stats are much lower.
And between Satan and Amaterasu I'm already hitting -45% defense. If I work on getting Herc's axe, isn't that overkill?

Originally Posted by Argo

At the moment my team is Uriel Awakened, Hephaestus, Brynhildr, Mars, with Acala and Ares (both not awakened) as subs. Main Eidolon is Ifrit with 1 break.
Since I don't have Svarog and my Ares and Acala aren't awakened, I guess Herc then. If I get her axe I shouldn't need Sniper Shot anymore, so what would I stick there instead? Trial by Jury, Black Propaganda, or something else?


As for my Darks, I have Satan Awakened, Chernobog, Dark Amaterasu, and Osiris, with Samael and Kali as subs (I do also have Thanatos). Main Eidolon is Trivia.
Do I want to swap Trivia for the new no-star Azathoth I summoned the other day? It's 10% more Atk from the Eidolon effect, but loses the Double Atk rate up and her stats are much lower.
And between Satan and Amaterasu I'm already hitting -45% defense. If I work on getting Herc's axe, isn't that overkill?

For your fire, both TbJ or BP is find, go with what you like, but for content like GO, Sniper Shot is still a very strong skill because it’s AOE 20% atk/def debuff. For your dark, Herc is not only for the def debuff, she is also fast enough for dark, tanky and do good dmg. And null axe for dark is one of the easiest F2p null grid in the game (and strong too because Dark UE axe is FLB Pride Defender). So any dark team would like to stick with herc forever

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For your fire, both TbJ or BP is find, go with what you like, but for content like GO, Sniper Shot is still a very strong skill because it’s AOE 20% atk/def debuff. For your dark, Herc is not only for the def debuff, she is also fast enough for dark, tanky and do good dmg. And null axe for dark is one of the easiest F2p null grid in the game (and strong too because Dark UE axe is FLB Pride Defender). So any dark team would like to stick with herc forever

In my case I only got back in the game in time for the previous greed UE, so I only have ONE copy of the Pride Axe. To my knowledge there is only one more Greed UE, what would you say I do in this case for dark grid since I'm unlikely to get any more dark axes. And yes I do have the null axe which is why I'm wondering.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

-- And null axe for dark is one of the easiest F2p null grid in the game (and strong too because Dark UE axe is FLB Pride Defender). --

Sadly, only for veterans.

But the same Phantom Grid problem applies to all elements for non-veterans, so eh. The whole Phantom weapon idea is goddamn awful.

Originally Posted by kyc992

In my case I only got back in the game in time for the previous greed UE, so I only have ONE copy of the Pride Axe. To my knowledge there is only one more Greed UE, what would you say I do in this case for dark grid since I'm unlikely to get any more dark axes. And yes I do have the null axe which is why I'm wondering.

Null grid only good if you already have the weapon ready for it, it’s no good try to force it. Just make a simple math:
A=the atk stat when you run null grid
B=the atk stat when you not run null grid
C=the assault value when you not run null grid
D=the assault value when you run null grid

If (A-B)/B<(C-D)/D then it’s not worth to run null grid.
The main purpose of null grid is base stat, so it’s good to sacrifide as less assault as possible for it. It also a reason why null weapon with assault are good, and axe are not one of them

Originally Posted by kyc992

In my case I only got back in the game in time for the previous greed UE, so I only have ONE copy of the Pride Axe. To my knowledge there is only one more Greed UE, what would you say I do in this case for dark grid since I'm unlikely to get any more dark axes. And yes I do have the null axe which is why I'm wondering.

So I would never normally recommend this, as it's not the best use of Ori, BUT the Orichalcon shop has a Dark Axe that is Defender++/Assault+ at 1920 Assault. Not the best, but it's an Axe AND it has two skills Assault and Defender... And you can build a full Axe Grid for Dark...


Dejnov.