Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

I don't think I was aggressive at all, it just made me laugh how he quoted somethings from a comment, disregarding parts of it and also the interaction with the OP, as well as bringing up things from the second comment without regarding anything about it for the sake of doing it

Sol is indeed a really useful SSR as most should be in their main attribute, it just depends on what you currently have going for and as I said there Thunder gets a lot of problems and Sol is a magnet of triple hit kills (trust me I left my first account which had Sol+Amon, I know how she works) in out of attribute teams the thing that could remotely save her from a one shot is she being light, whatsoever about the buffs, yes she's a healer, that's a plus, but most attributes have good healers, except Dark and Thunder, yet again, her dispel fires hack on zombify or remember Yatagarasu? She couldn't heal at all there, is useful yes, situational, yes as most skills are, then the frame a debuff is good as well but yet again if you as he said are going for a balanced team in your main team you're most likely gonna roll with the team covering everything and going with a Soul like Arthur, Siegfried or Joan with Black Propaganda EX (The latter having the same A Frame Attack Debuff without having to waste a Hime slot for it)
Yet for the third time, if your team is balanced from the get-go you won't need Sol's self destructive ''utility'' since your team might have already covered what she offers, currently in the JP meta the higher ranks aren't doing dual color teams or sticking Sol there, if anything some do that for the Subs cause they lack nice back-up, yet again that would imply reading what I said, and it is cause they go for balanced teams that cover every hole thought they might have (debuffers x2 (most of the time), healer, buffer and a useful soul with EX Black Propaganda)

If I'm not mistaken I read somewhere that there won't be an apocalypse rematch and phoenix will come again until mid year, that indeed sucks, re-rolling might be viable again with New Year's Amaterasu if you want to try and work Dark out for fun, currently yes, it isn't worth it for the OP since he stated his account was higher rank, but then, that's ignoring the interaction I had with him before in this same thread and just going by my answer to sanah

Originally Posted by Pareidolia

-- then the frame a debuff is good as well but -- or Joan with Black Propaganda EX (The latter having the same A Frame Attack Debuff without having to waste a Hime slot for it)--

A large part of what makes Sol so OP is that the debuff is frame C. C, NOT A. You can stack -60% Atk with Sol, something you can't (realistically) do otherwise. Zephyrus has -15% C too, but she's dead weight unlike Sol.

And yeah, you're really comparing what people on DMM do 11 months ahead of us? Yeah, it doesn't surprise me - recently they've started to flood the game with C frame atk and def debuffs. Even Rs are getting them now. But you know what? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if many are running out-of-element Sol for guild quests. Because her usefulness is directly linked to how challenging the content is, and she's just so damn good when it comes to keeping you alive.

Originally Posted by Slashley

A large part of what makes Sol so OP is that the debuff is frame C. C, NOT A. You can stack -60% Atk with Sol, something you can't (realistically) do otherwise. Zephyrus has -15% C too, but she's dead weight unlike Sol.

And yeah, you're really comparing what people on DMM do 11 months ahead of us? Yeah, it doesn't surprise me - recently they've started to flood the game with C frame atk and def debuffs. Even Rs are getting them now. But you know what? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if many are running out-of-element Sol for guild quests. Because her usefulness is directly linked to how challenging the content is, and she's just so damn good when it comes to keeping you alive.

going off the DMM side, a well organized water team(aka Ryu-Oh, Snow White Raphael, Cthulhu, Nike [Magical release], Shiva) is just as OP and make souls more of a situational thing since all bases are covered except a B frame ATK down which can be easily fill in by Sniper Snot or Mordred's Outrage.

Originally Posted by Slashley

A large part of what makes Sol so OP is that the debuff is frame C. C, NOT A. You can stack -60% Atk with Sol, something you can't (realistically) do otherwise. Zephyrus has -15% C too, but she's dead weight unlike Sol.

And yeah, you're really comparing what people on DMM do 11 months ahead of us? Yeah, it doesn't surprise me - recently they've started to flood the game with C frame atk and def debuffs. Even Rs are getting them now. But you know what? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if many are running out-of-element Sol for guild quests. Because her usefulness is directly linked to how challenging the content is, and she's just so damn good when it comes to keeping you alive.

You can stack ATK down to -70% with an eidolon, and there's a huge difference between -60% and -70%. Moreover, if you're Water element, you can do this on turn 1.

In a few months the debuff cap will be instituted, and then type C debuffs will become less valuable. But then again, after 4 Miracle tickets what does it matter what you started with? The point is that Sol is useful in any team, and therefore she'll fit into whatever group the Gatcha gives you. And you don't need to reroll until the end of days to get her. Most players don't want to spend weeks rerolling when they don't even know if they'll like the game! You have to give people a reasonable goal to aim for, or they'll either give up or never be satisfied.

Just spend money on ssr ticket or roll rng ..

3000 guarantees you an SR atleast but most of the times it is an Eidolon

Originally Posted by Pareidolia

3000 guarantees you an SR atleast but most of the times it is an Eidolon

There are 27 SR eidolons and 51 SR weapons in gacha (as of typing this). I disagree.

weekened is finallt here so could have my free time to record and upload the encounter episodes of cthulhu, cthugha and azathoth
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Has someone mentioned on here about the dreadful healing in the game?

(Don't fancy pouring through over 100 pages, I don't have the patience or concentration for that kind of thing >.<)

Seriously, when your characters have over 6k health, healing 700-800 odd HP is kinda pointless, especially when you'll generally only get to use it once per fight.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Has someone mentioned on here about the dreadful healing in the game?

(Don't fancy pouring through over 100 pages, I don't have the patience or concentration for that kind of thing >.<)

Seriously, when your characters have over 6k health, healing 700-800 odd HP is kinda pointless, especially when you'll generally only get to use it once per fight.

healing ranges from around 500-1800 (more if using healing bonus), nike unleashed being the best healer we have so far, she heals 1800 every like 6-8 turns or something.. which isn't actually bad. if you're in a long battle and not sure you can survive, just use andromeda and whatever other healer you have for that specific element.
someone like zephyrus who heals 500 isn't that useful but still can keep someone alive for an extra turn and that extra turn may be enough to finish an enemy off.
next month we'll have the awakening feature, and next year we can awaken Sol, she'll then heal 1800 too, an you can use her in any element as she has no weakness...
in a lot of battles with 3 or more stages you sometimes get potion drops anyway that heal more than heal abilities.
super potions too, and in raids that heal more than 3K
there is also regeneration which heals a smaller amount than normal heal ability but for a period of 2 or more turns which can be useful...
the healing in the game isn't bad, you probably just don't have the better healing kami yet. just be patient, you'll appreciate your healers some day XD
another thing, when it comes to raids/union you have others in battle, and if they're using andromeda, you heal from their ability...
at this stage of the game a lot of people don't even need healers to win a battle..
just depends on what battle you're in, whether it's a long one like ragnarok is when they can be most useful..
if it's SR nike you're talking about being a dreadful healer, she's a starter kami so what do you expect?
she can still be helpful, but you can replace her in the future for a better water healer like aphrodite who heals 1500 or SSR nike who as I said heals 1800