Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Another question(that i forgot to mention)

On a comparaison with eidolons, how big are the weapon skill levels(either character atk+ or HP) if all my weapons are fire(eidolon to compare would be the biggest of them all, Belial)

Like Let's say Weapon Fire HP Skill level 1, how much of a boost is Weapon Fire HP Skill level 2?

Because well ...(Despite that my weapons being of different elements ..... (Because the past events went generous to those ATK weapon (which i have only 2 or 3)

And now, for my (you guess it) next question(which is going to be extremely stupid to all of you.

All of your highest ATK weapon(but of different element) or all weapon of a single element(with are more lower than the first option)

I do think the hgiehst ATK weapons win by far, but damn, i feel like doing 200k at lvl 40 is NOTHING and i should do way more than that.

I'm a newbie enough player, so from newbie to newbie i should say following:
From the begining you should use higher attack weapon/sub eydolon. You need at least 1 copy of your soul's weapon for every soul you should use, stats doesn't matter - only type and element, soul's element is soul's weapon element(actualy does, but use any if you don't have something good). Choose your primal element ASAP and farm this elements weapons first. Do all 6 your dayly raids quests. Collect assault weapons, limitbreak them. If you will have more then one MLB copy - it's good. Level up skills of weapons you should use in your final setup (for example don't invest too much into lvl40 gacha weapons). Each skill is +0.5% attack/hp per lvl. If skill is with + (m assault) add 3% flat bonus, ++ (l assault) - add 6%. SR always have + skills, some SSR have ++. Pride is s assault on 100% hp, but greater bonus on low hp. It means that if you have low base value (from weapons/eydolons), you will get low reward from skill lvl. Do events for MLB SR assault/SSR weapons/SSR eydos even if they're off-element. Someday you may want to make another element's team.
For example, Barong's gun from current event is about 2.4k attack, and it's a lot, so you may (must) use it before you fill grid with your element weapons.
Comparing to Belial's 100% it's not so big bonus, but if you will make grid, full of s assault l20 weapons - it's 100% character damage, and it's not added but multiplied with element modifier from eydolons.
If you want more complex answer - tell, what is your soul/hime/eydolon setup.

Originally Posted by PervertFrVN

I think we need your list of kami, elodon and soul

You mean, my whole list? or the one that i'm using only?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You mean, my whole list? or the one that i'm using only?

A whole list is a bit more information than required, and is a huuuuuge clutter. Would recommend you tag a separate document if you wanna share your info such as the one is this thread https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-p...-template.html (pardon the shameless plug)

That said, most people generally just look for the best himes you have of each element, as well as your tier 3 (and sometimes maybe tier 2) souls. As far as eidolons go, I'm pretty sure the only ones people give 2 shits about are the 100% atk ones.

People do care about other eidolons. Only giving shits about 100% eidolon only applies to rerolling.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

People do care about other eidolons. Only giving shits about 100% eidolon only applies to rerolling.

They do indeed, but there's not really a single category I can classify them under, so I relied on pretty much the most powerful options. A compromise of recommendation would be to simply to list down all the SSR eidolons then I guess.

To be fair that isn't totally true.
For example in my case yes 100% Eidolons are the the top priority but since there's such a low chance of encountering them (even among the higher Rank players) the second priority comes into play fast which is Elemental Attack increase Eidolons and I think it's the same for all +Rank80'ish players

Now if you have a Character Attack Eidolon chances are a competitive player won't pick it (even if Gacha ex: Fenrir) but newbies will; regardless of that since the dialy coin reward is so low (I've gotten 3000-5000 in a good day) do you even care or worry about this Eidolon recommended system?

Originally Posted by Marigold

To be fair that isn't totally true.
For example in my case yes 100% Eidolons are the the top priority but since there's such a low chance of encountering them (even among the higher Rank players) the second priority comes into play fast which is Elemental Attack increase Eidolons and I think it's the same for all +Rank80'ish players

Now if you have a Character Attack Eidolon chances are a competitive player won't pick it (even if Gacha ex: Fenrir) but newbies will; regardless of that since the dialy coin reward is so low (I've gotten 3000-5000 in a good day) do you even care or worry about this Eidolon recommended system?

I would argue that eidolons that provide elemental, as opposed to character attack, matters more, unless either there is an extra effect too good to pass up (e.g. Sleipnir), or the summon effect is just too good to pass up (umm... can't think of any off the top of my head). If 100% eidolons aren't an option, event stuff like Reiki, Baron, Jack Frost etc (with 25-45/20-40% elemental) are what I generally look for next. Elemental attack eidos are the last on the list, because well, it's been established a lot in this forum that they're the least applicable of all.

I don't follow on daily coin... players should be able to farm normal quests for SR eidolons from shop if worst comes to worst, why would they need to rely on gacha R eidos?

Most people wont do the math cause lazy, but just for the record, with elemental adv a lot of times a character prem eido will give you more damage than an elemental one (doesnt apply to 100%, those are always stronger), reason being the formula behind it, the more you are into the assault side, the more you want elemental dmg and vicebersa.

Originally Posted by Ikki

Most people wont do the math cause lazy, but just for the record, with elemental adv a lot of times a character prem eido will give you more damage than an elemental one (doesnt apply to 100%, those are always stronger), reason being the formula behind it, the more you are into the assault side, the more you want elemental dmg and vicebersa.

I'm not sure if true on gacha SSRs, but 40% Char 20% HP Eidolons are very, very close to 45% Elemental Eidolons. WITH elemental advantage only.

Since most gacha SSRs with Char atk have a secondary which is garbage like +ability or +burst, I'd probably rather pick a 40% Char 20% HP Eidolon over a 60% Char Azathoth for example if I was looking to absolute min-max.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I'm not sure if true on gacha SSRs, but 40% Char 20% HP Eidolons are very, very close to 45% Elemental Eidolons. WITH elemental advantage only.

Since most gacha SSRs with Char atk have a secondary which is garbage like +ability or +burst, I'd probably rather pick a 40% Char 20% HP Eidolon over a 60% Char Azathoth for example if I was looking to absolute min-max.

Yep, this only applies with elemental adv, without elemental adv they are basically trash, you can try yourself using a mlb ifrit or something, with and without elemental adv and the dmg difference is retarded (also you run char + elemental, double character most of the time will mean less damage).