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    People do care about other eidolons. Only giving shits about 100% eidolon only applies to rerolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    People do care about other eidolons. Only giving shits about 100% eidolon only applies to rerolling.
    They do indeed, but there's not really a single category I can classify them under, so I relied on pretty much the most powerful options. A compromise of recommendation would be to simply to list down all the SSR eidolons then I guess.

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    To be fair that isn't totally true.
    For example in my case yes 100% Eidolons are the the top priority but since there's such a low chance of encountering them (even among the higher Rank players) the second priority comes into play fast which is Elemental Attack increase Eidolons and I think it's the same for all +Rank80'ish players

    Now if you have a Character Attack Eidolon chances are a competitive player won't pick it (even if Gacha ex: Fenrir) but newbies will; regardless of that since the dialy coin reward is so low (I've gotten 3000-5000 in a good day) do you even care or worry about this Eidolon recommended system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marigold View Post
    To be fair that isn't totally true.
    For example in my case yes 100% Eidolons are the the top priority but since there's such a low chance of encountering them (even among the higher Rank players) the second priority comes into play fast which is Elemental Attack increase Eidolons and I think it's the same for all +Rank80'ish players

    Now if you have a Character Attack Eidolon chances are a competitive player won't pick it (even if Gacha ex: Fenrir) but newbies will; regardless of that since the dialy coin reward is so low (I've gotten 3000-5000 in a good day) do you even care or worry about this Eidolon recommended system?
    I would argue that eidolons that provide elemental, as opposed to character attack, matters more, unless either there is an extra effect too good to pass up (e.g. Sleipnir), or the summon effect is just too good to pass up (umm... can't think of any off the top of my head). If 100% eidolons aren't an option, event stuff like Reiki, Baron, Jack Frost etc (with 25-45/20-40% elemental) are what I generally look for next. Elemental attack eidos are the last on the list, because well, it's been established a lot in this forum that they're the least applicable of all.

    I don't follow on daily coin... players should be able to farm normal quests for SR eidolons from shop if worst comes to worst, why would they need to rely on gacha R eidos?

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    Most people wont do the math cause lazy, but just for the record, with elemental adv a lot of times a character prem eido will give you more damage than an elemental one (doesnt apply to 100%, those are always stronger), reason being the formula behind it, the more you are into the assault side, the more you want elemental dmg and vicebersa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikki View Post
    Most people wont do the math cause lazy, but just for the record, with elemental adv a lot of times a character prem eido will give you more damage than an elemental one (doesnt apply to 100%, those are always stronger), reason being the formula behind it, the more you are into the assault side, the more you want elemental dmg and vicebersa.
    I'm not sure if true on gacha SSRs, but 40% Char 20% HP Eidolons are very, very close to 45% Elemental Eidolons. WITH elemental advantage only.

    Since most gacha SSRs with Char atk have a secondary which is garbage like +ability or +burst, I'd probably rather pick a 40% Char 20% HP Eidolon over a 60% Char Azathoth for example if I was looking to absolute min-max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    I'm not sure if true on gacha SSRs, but 40% Char 20% HP Eidolons are very, very close to 45% Elemental Eidolons. WITH elemental advantage only.

    Since most gacha SSRs with Char atk have a secondary which is garbage like +ability or +burst, I'd probably rather pick a 40% Char 20% HP Eidolon over a 60% Char Azathoth for example if I was looking to absolute min-max.
    Yep, this only applies with elemental adv, without elemental adv they are basically trash, you can try yourself using a mlb ifrit or something, with and without elemental adv and the dmg difference is retarded (also you run char + elemental, double character most of the time will mean less damage).
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    I saw some mistake in the google documents

    Souls v1: Asmund is not present.
    R Kamihime v3: Typo: Aspara(Should be Apsara)
    Eidolons v1: Typo: Baron(Should be Barong)

    Now, something that i'm wondering...

    In Team Builder v2 on Kamihime Team... do i input the BASE HP that is shown on the character screen(Party) or the HP that is shown on that specific character screen?

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    i will share the missing information into the template thread(which would be more helpful there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Will fix the name issues, thanks

    Skill base refers to a weapon skill's base stat buffer. For example, a light weapon with "light assault" means the skill base is S (small), "shining" referring to M (medium) and "luminous" L (large). Alternatively, you can link the rarity of the weapon to the skill base (R weapons only have S skills for example), but the trap is that due to dual skills being a thing, an SSR weapon won't always have an L skill, it may have dual M skills.

    The team builder HP is the party character page. The character specific screen isn't necessary as the base HP is pretty much the same for all himes, using stats from the party screen can account for eidolon, weapon and accessory stat mods.
    (This quote was taken from the Template threadm, but decided to ask it here, since it fit better.

    oof, is there a place to "decipher" the base skill for the other element?

    What i mean by that is what is the Medium and Large prefix for all the elements(Minus Light since it was mentioned in the quote)

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