Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

So you did pick Sol. I approve huehuehue.

I've come to the conclusion that Sol is bae :v

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

I've come to the conclusion that Sol is bae :v

I've at least yet to see someone regret miracle ticketing for Sol at least...

On hindsight, me miracle ticketing for Sol cause she's cute probably was a serious gamble of 50 bucks... but hey it worked out well

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

I've at least yet to see someone regret miracle ticketing for Sol at least...

On hindsight, me miracle ticketing for Sol cause she's cute probably was a serious gamble of 50 bucks... but hey it worked out well

Sometimes barely legal anime thighs that squeeze in the first scene are worth the risk.

I have acc with water (Ctulhu, Belphy, Nike sr,Anahit) and light (Michael, Eros, Jihuti, Nike ) teams + i've got Mars too. Grid -Tiamat event stuff (all MLB+ extra LB2 Tiamat)+ LB2Sphynx, LB1 Vritra/Sphynx SSR. Now i rerolled into PTW eydo..... but it's Kirin+ couple offelement r, so they doesn't matter. I'm an FTP player and i'm confused. If i would have Belial/Rudra, i would switch withount any doubt, but with Kirin things ar not so uniquely. Some my statements about thunder my be wrong, fix me plz if i'm not correct.
1) Thunder has no heal at all (Gryla is dec ) and using off-element, like Nike means painfull damage loss with 100% eydo
2) Thunder has almost no def skills
3)Thunder has almost no debuffs (yes, Mammon, i know), but it's fixed with Darty with relic gun+ambush, so it' only matter of grind, not luck.
4) all this things means that only strategy for thunder is kill fast or die fast. I don't know, is it aquireble with 0 or almost 0 ssr.

From the other side we have a)PTW eydo is still PTW eydo.
b)PTW eydo means a lot of friends with PTW eydo so it's 200% element bonus
c)Next event is Thunder raid (Amaru). I don't need Eydo (only as sub), but weapons are very good boost to my grid, even MLB defenders with slv1 (if gacha will be nice to me).
d) Mammon is in a month and if i will play now, i should have 9k jevels (12k is too optimistic i think)+ about 25 premium tickets, so chance to get at least Azrael is high enough and maybe Mammon, but it's a matter of luck. Before it i will use Nike, Baal and 2 r from gem gacha.
e)dec will come and i will have thunder heal (she is event hime so i can't miss her if i will play that event).
So as i said i'm confused and don't know what to do. If I should play Kirin acc, I must start this weekend to prepare for Amaru event. I want to listen advices/ideas from as many people as possible.
Edit: spaces and paragraphes as Cobblemaniac wants

Originally Posted by Mraktar

I have acc with water (Ctulhu, Belphy, Nike sr,Anahit) and light (Michael, Eros, Jihuti, Nike ) teams + i've got Mars too. Grid -Tiamat event stuff (all MLB+ extra LB2 Tiamat)+ LB2Sphynx, LB1 Vritra/Sphynx SSR. Now i rerolled into PTW eydo..... but it's Kirin+ couple offelement r, so they doesn't matter. I'm an FTP player and i'm confused. If i would have Belial/Rudra, i would switch withount any doubt, but with Kirin things ar not so uniquely. Some my statements about thunder my be wrong, fix me plz if i'm not correct. 1) Thunder has no heal at all (Gryla is dec ) and using off-element, like Nike means painfull damage loss with 100% eydo 2) Thunder has almost no def skills 3)Thunder has almost no debuffs (yes, Mammon, i know), but it's fixed with Darty with relic gun+ambush, so it' only matter of grind, not luck. 4) all this things means that only strategy for thunder is kill fast or die fast. I don't know, is it aquireble with 0 or almost 0 ssr.
From the other side we have a)PTW eydo is still PTW eydo. b)PTW eydo means a lot of friends with PTW eydo so it's 200% element bonus
c)Next event is Thunder raid (Amaru). I don't need Eydo (only as sub), but weapons are very good boost to my grid, even MLB defenders with slv1 (if gacha will be nice to me). d) Mammon is in a month and if i will play now, i should have 9k jevels (12k is too optimistic i think)+ about 25 premium tickets, so chance to get at least Azrael is high enough and maybe Mammon, but it's a matter of luck. Before it i will use Nike, Baal and 2 r from gem gacha. e)dec will come and i will have thunder heal (she is event hime so i can't miss her if i will play that event).
So as i said i'm confused and don't know what to do. If I should play Kirin acc, I must start this weekend to prepare for Amaru event. I want to listen advices/ideas from as many people as possible.

Jesus, spacing and paragraphing would help.

IMO it's a tie between water and the Kirin account, although I'd say the Kirin account has an edge over the water simply for having the 100% eidolon, since the himes are probability-wise a bit easier to get.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

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As long as you put the effort into leveling your weapon grids, you can often just power through regular content enough to complete events, especially with a 100% eidolon. The only times you really need to worry about thunder's lack of healer weakness is in prolonged higher difficulty type battles, which in our current case is something like the Ragnarok raids, accessory quests and maybe high level union bosses, with 2 of these not even requiring to be solo.

In those cases of not having healers, you can always use a healer soul. D'art with her gun is a great soul for thunder teams but if you can clear a certain stage using a healer soul with regular sniper shot, then there's no reason not too. There's no need to tunnel yourself into thinking you can only use D'art. Although don't expect to complete future content like rank 5 accessory quests with a budget team like you can most of our current content. For the more difficult content, various specific himes are likely required and for thunder, many of them are SSRs, which makes thunder rather 'expensive' and not recommended for free players.

As for your points:
'b' isn't that important since you can just use someone who isn't a friend.

For 'd', trying to get Mammon with jewels and tickets, unless you're willing to put in 50 USDs for a miracle ticket, it shouldn't be a factor. Especially since you said you're a free player. There is no telling what you will get and in the case you don't get her or any essential thunder himes for the matter, this change would have been meaningless.

'e' seems to be the only redeeming factor in all this, as a free player. While a single SR thunder healer raid hime doesn't mean you should just down right swap over to a newly rerolled account with Kirin that has nothing else of value, the SR thunder healer hime is at least guaranteed and a good unit.

Originally Posted by Bear

Da heck you talking about. She gets a flat 30 burst from Abi1 right off the bat and gives herself a strong DATA buff with Abi2... And both skills only have 5CD and then she's up again. If anything she gains burst faster than she drains, fast enough that you can still FB with her fairly consistently without any help at all. And how is she 'only good with advantage'? She doesn't need crit to do 30~40% more dmg than the rest of your team via normal and burst.

Thank you Bear!

Originally Posted by Slashley

I never said anything about an offensive build.
However, an offensive build can still make use out of Hades. Once Awakened, she will hurt on Burst turns, plus she'll be amazing at keeping your party alive. A dead party doesn't deal any damage, after all.If you put it that way, then everything is situational... like Chemo is situational. She, after all, is mostly dependant on elemental advantage.
Again, I didn't say anything other than NOT selling combo- short.All of this is not available on turn1~
Or I guess technically it is, if you're going to use Chemo mode for one or two turns.If by "depend" you mean "absolutely never have a Hime killed" then yes, I depend on it.

Dude, I already explained how her skills work and you still didn't understand it.
Chernobog, Pluto & Berith will easily outperform Hades AW.
They will do more damage per hit and more Burst Damage.
If you don't have one of those Himes then use Hades. Otherwise no please use a fucking damage dealer. Susano AW would be also a good choice.

Keeping your party alive? Man... What are you talking about?
That'll be Plutos job with her damage cut and party RST...
Most of the "core" Himes have a skill to survive.

Satan AW = energy drain, 15BG to herself and Orb eater --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

Osiris = 2T no damage and 1.100 party heal +15 party BG

Chernobog = One-Man-Party Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
She is your tank and has similar skills like Shamash but does way more damage.

Can't you understand that there is a fucking synergy with those Dark Himes? That's one more reason you shouldn't use Hades in a damage build... She isn't a core anymore.

And no, non of them is situational. You can also use them for off-elememt.
I would at least try to get either Chernobog or Berith for your damage build.

Again for defensive I would still go with Joan instead of Hades.

PS: Blaze if you can try to get Dark Amaterasu next year, I hope you have luck.
You can build a better defensive build with her and she is very versatile.
She is still amazing. Not for a damage build, but for defensive and some hard contents.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

PS: Blaze if you can try to get Dark Amaterasu next year, I hope you have luck.
You can build a better defensive build with her and she is very versatile.
She is still amazing. Not for a damage build, but for defensive and some hard contents.

Hmmm.. I.. don't know though. I mean I'd like to get her, but if I recall correctly someone said here that she would return but she wouldn't be included in the jewel gacha by that time? Or am I mistaken?
(I'm still unsure about rolling non-guaranteed gachas that require real money to pay since I've experienced a lot of pain with those in past games, but if I am indeed wrong and she would still be in the jewel gacha then I wouldn't mind)

and I can actually see why Berith and Chernobog are important now and why you said Hades is okay to be replaced in the future.. good synergy indeed with Pluto, Berith will be the one taunting and tanking the attacks, while Chernobog would be whamming the boss hard, and if its an AoE overdrive, then it would be Pluto's turn to shine with her damage cut (and jeanne if the situation needs it)
well that's how I mostly imagined it would go anyway

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As long as you put the effort into leveling your weapon grids, you can often just power through regular content enough to complete events, especially with a 100% eidolon. The only times you really need to worry about thunder's lack of healer weakness is in prolonged higher difficulty type battles, which in our current case is something like the Ragnarok raids, accessory quests and maybe high level union bosses, with 2 of these not even requiring to be solo.

In those cases of not having healers, you can always use a healer soul. D'art with her gun is a great soul for thunder teams but if you can clear a certain stage using a healer soul with regular sniper shot, then there's no reason not too. There's no need to tunnel yourself into thinking you can only use D'art. Although don't expect to complete future content like rank 5 accessory quests with a budget team like you can most of our current content. For the more difficult content, various specific himes are likely required and for thunder, many of them are SSRs, which makes thunder rather 'expensive' and not recommended for free players.

As for your points:
'b' isn't that important since you can just use someone who isn't a friend.

For 'd', trying to get Mammon with jewels and tickets, unless you're willing to put in 50 USDs for a miracle ticket, it shouldn't be a factor. Especially since you said you're a free player. There is no telling what you will get and in the case you don't get her or any essential thunder himes for the matter, this change would have been meaningless.

'e' seems to be the only redeeming factor in all this, as a free player. While a single SR thunder healer raid hime doesn't mean you should just down right swap over to a newly rerolled account with Kirin that has nothing else of value, the SR thunder healer hime is at least guaranteed and a good unit.

I can agree with some of your arguments. Yes, i am not planing to use mainly Darty next months, at least before i will get relic gun. My main souls should be Mordred and Cassy for a long time, and then Gryla will be released someday. AQ5... lol, i've seen them on youtube so i already understand that i will never do them with FTP group and i don't care about it at all. 'd'... yes, i understand that chance to get Mammon is very low, but still will try to get her. Friends with PTW eydos not that impornant? seriously? It's one of the main reasons, maybe even main for me to switch to Kirin because chance to see non-friend 100% is very very low - maybe 1-2 every day. And when you have 5-6 friends with needed 100%, you will get her in more then half battles (exclude for example 30 min gem grind) so you may hope to get her for important battles (AQ, ulti/ragnarok raids etc). And there is only 1 way to get all those friends - provide them with your own 100%. The only thing that i can't understand what account has more potential strength for FTP - blank Kirin one Vs Ctulhu+Belphy/Michael+Eros/Mars one. Maybe i will continue rerolls for Rudra/Belial.