Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

Hmmm.. I.. don't know though. I mean I'd like to get her, but if I recall correctly someone said here that she would return but she wouldn't be included in the jewel gacha by that time? Or am I mistaken?
(I'm still unsure about rolling non-guaranteed gachas that require real money to pay since I've experienced a lot of pain with those in past games, but if I am indeed wrong and she would still be in the jewel gacha then I wouldn't mind)

and I can actually see why Berith and Chernobog are important now and why you said Hades is okay to be replaced in the future.. good synergy indeed with Pluto, Berith will be the one taunting and tanking the attacks, while Chernobog would be whamming the boss hard, and if its an AoE overdrive, then it would be Pluto's turn to shine with her damage cut (and jeanne if the situation needs it)
well that's how I mostly imagined it would go anyway

It was with star coins. That's why I said "if you can".
I don't know how Nutaku will handle it but it's your choice.

Dark Ama would allow you to use a team like this for defense:
- Shingen with Attack down A-Frame or Jeanne with PF but you will need to run Osiris, to play save.
- Satan AW/Amon (in your case)
- Pluto
- Berith (for tanking) or Chernobog (has 100% def) or Osiris (if you want heal)
- Dark Ama --> Snipper + BP

Berith and Chernobog are strong Dark Himes. They both hit very hard, more than Satan AW, Hades AW and Susano AW.
"Important", well if you really main dark then you should Miracle at least Berith if you don't have one of those two power packs until the 4th Miracle Ticket.
Otherwise if you don't main dark, your team is good enough.
Chernobog is still a bit tricky, Berith is overall the better choice because she dosen't run out of her damage after Burst like Chernobog with her "One-Man-Army"-Skill.

Don't forget both have a good synergy with Osiris too!
Like I said before:
Chernobog = One-Man-Army Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
Why? Because with 100% ascension she will get more healing, but her assist skill is just for herself not party.
Basically Berith won't get 1.100HP from Osiris but a lot more...

That's why I am saying you should keep your eyes to get one of those two.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It was with star coins. That's why I said "if you can".
I don't know how Nutaku will handle it but it's your choice.

Dark Ama would allow you to use a team like this for defense:
- Shingen with Attack down A-Frame or Jeanne with PF but you will need to run Osiris, to play save.
- Satan AW/Amon (in your case)
- Pluto
- Berith (for tanking) or Chernobog (has 100% def) or Osiris (if you want heal)
- Dark Ama --> Snipper + BP

Berith and Chernobog are strong Dark Himes. They both hit very hard, more than Satan AW, Hades AW and Susano AW.
"Important", well if you really main dark then you should Miracle at least Berith if you don't have one of those two power packs until the 4th Miracle Ticket.
Otherwise if you don't main dark, your team is good enough.
Chernobog is still a bit tricky, Berith is overall the better choice because she dosen't run out of her damage after Burst like Chernobog with her "One-Man-Army"-Skill.

Don't forget both have a good synergy with Osiris too!
Like I said before:
Chernobog = One-Man-Army Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
Why? Because with 100% ascension she will get more healing, but her assist skill is just for herself not party.
Basically Berith won't get 1.100HP from Osiris but a lot more...

That's why I am saying you should keep your eyes to get one of those two.

yeah I'm kinda leaning towards Berith more because of her tank role, and that alone would actually help increase survival for the other himes..
and like you said, Chernobog is good at what she does, but she's not without her flaws

But yeah since it's still gonna be awhile till they come here, I can actually consider one of them for the 4th miracle ticket. Thanks again for your opinion btw

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

yeah I'm kinda leaning towards Berith more because of her tank role, and that alone would actually help increase survival for the other himes..
and like you said, Chernobog is good at what she does, but she's not without her flaws

But yeah since it's still gonna be awhile till they come here, I can actually consider one of them for the 4th miracle ticket. Thanks again for your opinion btw

She isn't only your tank. She is more of a offensive tanker, I would say.
She does more damage than the awakened Dark Himes and she will burst fast, if she gets attacked because of her "intercept" skill.
She will dodge the enemies attack and attack back = 10BG more.

And she is cute too. ww.w.神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?ベリト

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Is there concrete math behind the "higher odds" or are they just BS'ing us? I guarantee if I got an ssr pull from that gacha, it'd be a non-boosted rate Eidolon.

I am under the impression that Japanese law requires companies to tell the odds, which is why we know them... in the DMM version. Eidolon boosted rate there is 2.5x. So, if we assume that normally a P2W Eidolon will cost you 10k bucks, then with this gacha it'd be a meager 4k bucks each. It could be higher boost since there's four of them, but since we don't know how the P2W Eidolons are weighted down, it's difficult to tell for sure.

Here, we don't know the boosted odds. For all we know, it's possible that Nutaku has gone full greed and lowered Hime boost to 1.5x even though DMM started with 5x and was at 15x at this point (currently 20x). We just don't know. Massive whales might know, but even if they compile their data, they often don't like sharing.

I'm mostly puzzled about it because I remember that a long time ago, Nutaku did a "OMG FOUR TIMES THE BOOST" premium gacha. Or was it two times? Either way, considering how the boost modifier was supposed to be FIVE times... ... that made me raise an eyebrow. If it was four times the modifier of five, why wouldn't they advertise it as "4*5 OMG 20 TIMES THE ODDS!"?

tl;dr; the boost rate is probably a thing, but we don't know how much of a thing.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

I can agree with some of your arguments. Yes, i am not planing to use mainly Darty next months, at least before i will get relic gun. My main souls should be Mordred and Cassy for a long time, and then Gryla will be released someday. AQ5... lol, i've seen them on youtube so i already understand that i will never do them with FTP group and i don't care about it at all. 'd'... yes, i understand that chance to get Mammon is very low, but still will try to get her. Friends with PTW eydos not that impornant? seriously? It's one of the main reasons, maybe even main for me to switch to Kirin because chance to see non-friend 100% is very very low - maybe 1-2 every day. And when you have 5-6 friends with needed 100%, you will get her in more then half battles (exclude for example 30 min gem grind) so you may hope to get her for important battles (AQ, ulti/ragnarok raids etc). And there is only 1 way to get all those friends - provide them with your own 100%. The only thing that i can't understand what account has more potential strength for FTP - blank Kirin one Vs Ctulhu+Belphy/Michael+Eros/Mars one. Maybe i will continue rerolls for Rudra/Belial.

I didn't say ptw eidolons aren't important, I'm saying your 'b' isn't much of a factor, this being because you can use any 100% eidolon you see when selecting a support eidolon, even if they're not on your friend list, you will still get their effect. The thing is, you seriously don't need 2 100% eidolons at all times. Don't get me wrong, having 2 can very much help, but that amount of power is generally overkill for most regular content. It'll make already easy content easier. Having double 100% eidolons only becomes really important for the more difficult content, they very same content that you won't be able to do without the proper himes to begin with. These important battles are usually limited, adding onto my reasoning that you don't need them at all times. Then there's the fact that you can reroll for an alt account and friend them with your main, always having access to a 100%, if it really matters.

As for your last question, if you were someone who spent money on this game, having a 100% eidolon is undoubtedly better in the long run because it would be guaranteed potential to grow. Without being willing to spend any money, it becomes nothing but a gamble. Me for example, despite having played from launch and even spending some money, I do not have a single SSR wind or water hime.

If you really want a free to play team, then stick with Hraesvelger as wind teams are much more viable as a completely free player.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As for your last question, if you were someone who spent money on this game, having a 100% eidolon is undoubtedly better in the long run because it would be guaranteed potential to grow. Without being willing to spend any money, it becomes nothing but a gamble. Me for example, despite having played from launch and even spending some money, I do not have a single SSR wind or water hime.

If you really want a free to play team, then stick with Hraesvelger as wind teams are much more viable as a completely free player.

I am not discussing the wind acc because it is and will be my main. I want to select a secondary one because kamihime punishes hard for been new player so i want to start it fast. At least i will complete daylies/weeklies/events with it for a while. And difference between 145 and 200% is can i kill advent ragnarok or not, can i kill AQ3 with no elemental advantage or not, can i get MVP/viceMVP on raid or not and so on, and all this with not so good hime setup.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

She isn't only your tank. She is more of a offensive tanker, I would say.
She does more damage than the awakened Dark Himes and she will burst fast, if she gets attacked because of her "intercept" skill.
She will dodge the enemies attack and attack back = 10BG more.

And she is cute too. ww.w.神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?ベリト

that's actually true..
besides berith, cherno, and the other ones you said, are there any other dark himes i should keep an eye out for? or is there none as of yet?

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

that's actually true..
besides berith, cherno, and the other ones you said, are there any other dark himes i should keep an eye out for? or is there none as of yet?

true, that she is cute?

There is one but it's still one year away until you will get her.
She is OP and will make your team OP but ONLY against Light Enemies! (She has a skill that will make your entire party extremly stronger and they will do a lot more damage)
She is pretty much useless for off-element though.
I wouldn't miracle her but if you ever get her, I would use her for light fights. --> ww.w.神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?アガリアレプト

Otherwise Berith and Chernobog are the better option.
Well, I still hope that Osiris gets an awakening...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

true, that she is cute?

There is one but it's still one year away until you will get her.
She is OP and will make your team OP but ONLY against Light Enemies! (She has a skill that will make your entire party extremly stronger and they will do a lot more damage)
She is pretty much useless for off-element though.
I wouldn't miracle her but if you ever get her, I would use her for light fights. --> ww.w.神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?アガリアレプト

Otherwise Berith and Chernobog are the better option.
Well, I still hope that Osiris gets an awakening...

Well I suppose lol

I'll take note of that, but since I still often use my dark team against all elements, then I'd likely go for Berith more in the long run
I strongly believe she will have one.. I'm hoping this month but who knows..
best girl deserves it

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

Well I suppose lol

I'll take note of that, but since I still often use my dark team against all elements, then I'd likely go for Berith more in the long run
I strongly believe she will have one.. I'm hoping this month but who knows..
best girl deserves it

As I can see, you main Dark. Then of course you should Miracle Berith if you don't get her or Chernobog before.
And I hope you can get Satan without Miracle. Otherwise you will use Amon/Samael (if you get her).

However we got off the actual subject a bit, I guess.
Well, hopefully I was able to help you.