Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Well, after 20 prem tickets and a 3k jewel pull and no SSR, I might as well buy some coins since I'm statistically guaranteed an SSR #Kappa

Originally Posted by KyGuy24

Noob player here, couple of questions. How often do Union events generally pop up?

Second, is there a list of definitions with all the terms you guys use? (Like MLB and DATA for example)

Thanks.

Union events? Indeterminate. They pop up as often as the game developers decide, there's no fixed date. You can find the list of predicted events based on the DMM version here tho https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1090858479

Terms wise... I'll list all I have off the top of my head.

(number)-LB: Number of limit breaks. Number = number of stars you see.
MLB/FLB: Max/ Full limit break. Note that some of the people here like to use FLB for the 4th limit break of SSR weapons, which hasn't been implemented in Nutaku yet.
DATA: Double attack triple attack. Listed as combo+/- in game.
AB: Auto battle (green)
AAB: Auto ability battle (red)
Dispel: Removes enemy buffs
Cleanse: Removes your debuffs

... And I dunno what else you don't know, so someone else might have to fill in the gap for me, or you can continue asking.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

nobody did answer this but...

who do I use for water teams given I got the following:

R-Undine, Rusalka, Kushinada, Aspara, Circe, Oto-hime, Dagon, Ganges, Abzu
SR- Nike (obviously), Belphegor, Gabriel, Oceanus, Triton, Kikuri-hime, Nodens, Cupid, Enkidu, Atalanta
SSR- Snow Raphael, Aphrodite, Sarasvati

Also has all weapon types except lance, arcane, and gun for water... along with every soul except shingen (about 250 holy soul points total). Also has an MLB tiamat and jack frost so that helps

Well, this event basically gave us one thing that water doesn't need, but sure as hell made it better: Atalanta. As a free fucking raid hime. I'm sure I don't have to go into what she brings to the table. cough cough free discount Cthulhu

Ok, but the team I might go for with water... Snow Raphy Triton Atalanta Aphrodite/ Sol/ Kikuri Gabriel(?)/ Saraswati(?). Backup can be Belphegor and Oceanus(?). The (?) himes might be swappable, depending.

I don't think Snow Raphy, Atalanta or Triton needs any explanation. Aphro is basically your water heal, Sol is your C frame atk down should you find yourself needing more damage cut (and complete cuteness. Yes I'm still not over it crucify me will ya), and Kikuri exists to give you your early burst, if you so orient yourself towards that build. Gabriel I'm not so certain, she completes the A frame part of def break but doesn't really push it to the cap (you get 39% with Gabriel), as is with Oceanus/ Saraswati, given that you basically need to run Ambush with the latter, although you get way better damage.

Soul wise... It depends on how you're running things most likely. I like to play my safest option with Mordred (because VoF), but it might be different for you. As far as EX skills go, you can run BP for the Gabriel in front setup if you're not using Mordred, and you can run Ambush for the Oceanus/ Saras in front setup.

Edit: If you find Raphy's debuffs not working for you (either because they're single target or you need extra 5%), there's always sniper shot EX too. This one works well for me in AQs.

Are the SR Eidolon that decrease elemental damage worth keeping?

It kind seems like -25% damage (at MLB) is really good. Is it a TRUE -25% or is it some kind of silly math?

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Are the SR Eidolon that decrease elemental damage worth keeping?

It kind seems like -25% damage (at MLB) is really good. Is it a TRUE -25% or is it some kind of silly math?

It should be a flat damage decrease. it's good for defensive setups, but you're losing a lot of offense potential using those. You're probably better off using anything else (possibly even the lilims but i wouldn't recommend those as main/friend eidolons) as a lead opposed to the damage cut eidolons...

only exception is eidolons like barong, jack frost, and amphisbaena (if you happen to have them or see them on friend slots) cause they increase your offense and defense (technically kyuki, and rahab due to their summon effects, but they're kinda meh). Should also mention that Reiki acts like jack frost in this case but you need to summon reiki for the damage reduction (and it's not permament like jack frost, but you got slightly more damage output to make up for it)

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Union events? Indeterminate. They pop up as often as the game developers decide, there's no fixed date. You can find the list of predicted events based on the DMM version here tho https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1090858479

Terms wise... I'll list all I have off the top of my head.

(number)-LB: Number of limit breaks. Number = number of stars you see.
MLB/FLB: Max/ Full limit break. Note that some of the people here like to use FLB for the 4th limit break of SSR weapons, which hasn't been implemented in Nutaku yet.
DATA: Double attack triple attack. Listed as combo+/- in game.
AB: Auto battle (green)
AAB: Auto ability battle (red)
Dispel: Removes enemy buffs
Cleanse: Removes your debuffs

... And I dunno what else you don't know, so someone else might have to fill in the gap for me, or you can continue asking.



Well, this event basically gave us one thing that water doesn't need, but sure as hell made it better: Atalanta. As a free fucking raid hime. I'm sure I don't have to go into what she brings to the table. cough cough free discount Cthulhu

Ok, but the team I might go for with water... Snow Raphy Triton Atalanta Aphrodite/ Sol/ Kikuri Gabriel(?)/ Saraswati(?). Backup can be Belphegor and Oceanus(?). The (?) himes might be swappable, depending.

I don't think Snow Raphy, Atalanta or Triton needs any explanation. Aphro is basically your water heal, Sol is your C frame atk down should you find yourself needing more damage cut (and complete cuteness. Yes I'm still not over it crucify me will ya), and Kikuri exists to give you your early burst, if you so orient yourself towards that build. Gabriel I'm not so certain, she completes the A frame part of def break but doesn't really push it to the cap (you get 39% with Gabriel), as is with Oceanus/ Saraswati, given that you basically need to run Ambush with the latter, although you get way better damage.

Soul wise... It depends on how you're running things most likely. I like to play my safest option with Mordred (because VoF), but it might be different for you. As far as EX skills go, you can run BP for the Gabriel in front setup if you're not using Mordred, and you can run Ambush for the Oceanus/ Saras in front setup.

Edit: If you find Raphy's debuffs not working for you (either because they're single target or you need extra 5%), there's always sniper shot EX too. This one works well for me in AQs.

Also wanna add to that terms list that we have (++) in weapon skills mentioned as Large and (+) as medium. otherwise it's small. And so far we only have Assault, Defender, and Pride but we might come into some new ones soon.


As for the water teams, Aphrodite can cover the healing aspect in fights like against Amaru where i need cleanse. if i truly do need more damage reduction, then awakened Sol should do more than get the job done. otherwise that 4th spot will go to gabriel since she's leveled and the better of the buffers.

Also underestimated Triton... I should have put more faith in her but thankfully my water hime are more or less leveled up. I also like using mordred a lot so she'll probably be the soul I settle on after i test things out a bit (i do have to level up that water grid as i got some decent assault weapons for it thanks to a few events).

Last question for tonight, who's gonna be my next MLB Hime? I've already got max Sol (saving for her awakening)

So now it's a choice between: Satan, Cthulhu, Shamash, Athena, Brahma, Gaia, and Poseidon.

My weapons are primarily light, thunder, and water focused.

I included pics of my Eidolon in case that affects my choice.

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Last question for tonight, who's gonna be my next MLB Hime? I've already got max Sol (saving for her awakening)

So now it's a choice between: Satan, Cthulhu, Shamash, Athena, Brahma, Gaia, and Poseidon.

My weapons are primarily light, thunder, and water focused.

I included pics of my Eidolon in case that affects my choice. images

Cthulhu. Free.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

SR- Nike (obviously), Belphegor, Gabriel, Oceanus, Triton, Kikuri-hime, Nodens, Cupid, Enkidu, Atalanta
SSR- Snow Raphael, Aphrodite, Sarasvati

Through process of elimination:
Heals: Aphrodite
Debuffs: Snow Raphael, Atalanta, Triton
Remainers: Saravati/Belphegor (or Cobble's suggestion of Sol, would lower your damage output a lot, but give a ton of survival for your group).
Soul: Until Herc weapons are a thing, Mordred is your go to soul. Bring Ambush.
Total: -47% Def, -30% Atk.

If you have a decent grid, should be a strong team.

Originally Posted by KyGuy24

Noob player here, couple of questions. How often do Union events generally pop up?

Usually once a month, but we're about to enter a phase where it is one almost every second week (out of the next six events, three are Union events). If you want Dragon Eyes, I recommend you find yourself the strongest Union you can find. That's going to be tough for a new player though.

Cobble already linked this, but the encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming events.

Originally Posted by KyGuy24

Second, is there a list of definitions with all the terms you guys use? (Like MLB and DATA for example)

Two tabs before the encyclopedia is the "encyclopedia legend" which has terminology for Hime skills. MLB isn't there though, but it's Max Limit Break, something used for items/Eidolons once they're at full stars. Honestly, you can use those three letters in any combination you want - Limit Break Max, Max Break Limit, Break Max Limit, people will understand it

Anyway, I personally dislike the DATA acronym. "Data" is already a word in the English language with a different meaning, plus it goes against the ingame terminology.

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Are the SR Eidolon that decrease elemental damage worth keeping?

It kind seems like -25% damage (at MLB) is really good. Is it a TRUE -25% or is it some kind of silly math?

That's a very good question towards which I have no answer. I don't think anyone has ever needed to test. There's also a R version which should be far easier to LMB though.
Do note that using a R/SR will seriously cut into your damage output. Using two would cut even more horrendously.

Originally Posted by Laventale

There are a couple SR that are way too good to be just SR himes, Oberon and Heph being living proofs of that point.

Can you give more examples of "too good" SR's?

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Well, after 20 prem tickets and a 3k jewel pull and no SSR, I might as well buy some coins since I'm statistically guaranteed an SSR #Kappa

20 tickets and 3k jewels? lol, you're a lucky guy. I ws aiming for Seth several months, got 21.6k jewels, 4 kamihime tickets, 70 premium tickets and what i've got?
Jewels : no single SSR, SR: Belphy, Bastet and Belobog.
Hime tickets: nothing, all 4 rare duplicates
Premium tickets: 2 more Belphy weapons, Iblis, Kingu. At last 5 tickets i've got ssr, but it's not Seth - Sol. I even don't have Eniil.

I failed with Cybele ( almost 15k jewels, about 50 tickets), i failed with Seth. I'm so depressed, gonna drink this everning.
So now in next year i will need no single new wind hime. They all are garbage or require specific setup like archer.

Oberon, Hephaestus, Brynhild, Beelzebub, Diana, Belphegor, maybe Atalanta (has to test her still)...I would say Belobog too, but I don't know if other will agree.

Edit: In response of ·SR himes that may seem SSR·.