Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Ikki

Im hitting over 900k with ares on AQ (uriel hitting cap cause uriel), so it will get easier, just get everything you can power wise and you will hit it easily.

Ares has her own in-built Belial and 50% Assault...

Even then, the same as before + Ares buffs + Svarog buffs and that's... 800k-ish? You didn't have Belial, did you? So how...?

Originally Posted by Slashley

Ares has her own in-built Belial and 50% Assault...

Even then, the same as before + Ares buffs + Svarog buffs and that's... 800k-ish? You didn't have Belial, did you? So how...?

Pride, grid, mars buff, belial buff, most of my +99 on fire, not really hard for ares XD

Originally Posted by Slashley

... how? The damage cap is pretty stupendously high. Hitting it against Ult Disasters (8 Def)? Sure. Hitting it against Union Demons? Sure. Outside of that? ... how?

50% Def Down + 180% Assault + double P2W Eidolon + offensive Relic weapon + elemental advantage + Provisional Forest... all of that isn't anywhere near enough. You'd need 65k base Atk to hit burst cap (currently, hitting 50k is rough for non-whales - 55k with a full FLB grid?). And that's not "easy" since we're talking owning a P2W Eidolon.

... Exceed weapons? All Union events do provide everyone with such. Those give 40% extra, but that's just burst modifier, which is already at 700%. And those also increase the cap by 30%, so you'd need to hit 1.3m damage... I don't see the cap happening.

So, how exactly is it easy to hit burst damage cap for average players later on?

The cap is only 1m. There are already a number of barely 50k attack players on your side who are bursting close to that with an Adramelech/Tiamat main and event weapon grid. Surely you aren't trying to tell me that a properly invested SSR grid with FLB event weapons (barring Exceed) running PF and some good hime buffs is gonna have trouble hitting that mere 1m cap later on (in less than a few months)?


This is my Dark grid just a bit after the first Dark UE hammer was available, which is around February this year. Team attack power was just around 50k plus/minus. Everything except the 0LB Berith gun and himeless bow are event weapons. You might as well replace that himeless with a proper event assault L as I'm only using it for extra TA. Not too hard to achieve for average player. With the exception of Satan I'm hitting for 1.5M cap each with my team on AQ5. Why am I using 0LB Berith gun? It's because my team is already hitting way above cap so I need to sacrifice a bit of stat to increase cap for more effective dmg.

Here's another one:


Far before Vlad event was even out, makes a better point though since Uriel AW or UE Exceed wasn't even a thing at the time. Still able to do 800~900k burst at the time and one shot Quetz in GO. I didn't have any crit buff or Stinger on my grid. Hell I hadn't even gotten my free Fire Kaiser copy at that time.


So my question to you. How are you not able to do what others are already doing? Stop looking at your feelies/maths and look at reality here.

I doubt any 'average' player playing the nutaku version would call your dmm team 'average'. I think you're expecting too much from western players, especially when it comes to adult browser games.

Originally Posted by Bear

-- There are already a number of barely 50k attack players on your side who are bursting close to that with an Adramelech/Tiamat main and event weapon grid. --

Who? How? Screenshots? Videos? Please?

Originally Posted by Bear

Surely you aren't trying to tell me that a properly invested SSR grid with FLB event weapons (barring Exceed) running PF and some good hime buffs is gonna have trouble hitting that mere 1m cap later on (in less than a few months)?

Well, yes. That is exactly what I am saying. Because...

Originally Posted by Bear

This is my Dark grid just a bit after the first Dark UE hammer was available, which is around February this year. Team attack power was just around 50k plus/minus. -- Not too hard to achieve for average player. With the exception of Satan I'm hitting for 1.5M cap each with my team on AQ5.

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I mean, I'm not even far from that - my grids slightly lower on the base Atk side (10%-ish loss), and that grid is like... 144% Assault (counting Prides as 6%)? While mine are like 120-130% (so another ~10% loss). So, I should be doing 20-21% less damage - yet, I'm NOWHERE near those numbers. I'm nowhere near 1m, much less 1.5m. So, how?

Originally Posted by Bear

So my question to you. How are you not able to do what others are already doing? Stop looking at your feelies/maths and look at reality here.

So, explain to me how they're doing it. I mean, as far as event items go, I'm really high up there. Yet, I don't get ANYWHERE near these numbers. At all.

I can't help but to wonder if these people who are doing these numbers are doing them against Ult Disasters. Because hey, I can hit those for like 5m+ Full Bursts, which is... what, 600k per Hime? I think a lucky Crit streak from Asherah and I might hit 6m. But that's still not even close to 1m per Hime, and this is about enemies that take significantly more damage than others.

And for the record, my Grids are public in my damage calc so you can't just say "your Grid sucks." Because they're done. I mean, nothing is ever DONE done, but they're all slvl20 and purely Assault weapons.

This is not mine obv, need to do this week AQ wind so i can take a proper pic, but there are people getting retarded numbers already, ill let you figure this one out



This wasnt on UE so you can count that out.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I mean, I'm not even far from that - my grids slightly lower on the base Atk side (10%-ish loss), and that grid is like... 144% Assault (counting Prides as 6%)? While mine are like 120-130% (so another ~10% loss). So, I should be doing 20-21% less damage - yet, I'm NOWHERE near those numbers. I'm nowhere near 1m, much less 1.5m.

Umm.. idk how calculations go in your head, I usually count pride weps with their base and I got:
Trivia bow - 13% assault
2x FLB Apo lance - 2x21% assault
3x FLB UE axe - 3x15% assault
FLB UE hammer - 21% assault
Bunny girl gun - 13% assault
Himeless bow - 16% assault

That seems 150% assault to me. But since you got "120-130%" by your statement, I doubt you calculate the same way as I do.

Originally Posted by Ikki

This is not mine obv, need to do this week AQ wind so i can take a proper pic, but there are people getting retarded numbers already, ill let you figure this one out



This wasnt on UE so you can count that out.

The current burst cap is 8,625m, so yes, that does raise some questions
I mean, considering how there's zero Exceeds in the game so far - at least if you play legit - that means he needed to do 1.2m burst per Hime. Out of which 200k is above the cap, so he was doing 2m over the 1m cap. 3m burst per Hime.

I don't suppose he has hacked himself an Exceed weapon?


The other alternative is a Hime who can go beyond the cap, but... hmm. Did we have any of those yet? Metatron Awakening? Not here. Uriel Awakening? Not here.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

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That seems 150% assault to me. But since you got "120-130%" by your statement, I doubt you calculate the same way as I do.

I said "mine", there. 120-130% are my grids, depending on element.

Originally Posted by Slashley

The current burst cap is 8,625m, so yes, that does raise some questions
I mean, considering how there's zero Exceeds in the game so far - at least if you play legit - that means he needed to do 1.2m burst per Hime. Out of which 200k is above the cap, so he was doing 2m over the 1m cap. 3m burst per Hime.

I don't suppose he has hacked himself an Exceed weapon?


The other alternative is a Hime who can go beyond the cap, but... hmm. Did we have any of those yet? Metatron Awakening? Not here. Uriel Awakening? Not here.

Its a water team burst.

Asherah+crit+ buff(probably)+fenrir(probably) with 100% support?

Also you wont get those numbers from expert disaster because they just dont have that much hp.