Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Agreed on replacing Manes with Lu Bu. I've been running her and that 10 turn cool down is forever.

I'll be going for a dark pick on my next miracle ticket. Sanhatlig's guide suggests either Hades, Amon, or Satan. Would you recommend Thanatos over them.

If I do go with Thanatos, Osiris, Lu Bu, and Nyarl, should I still go with Hercules and eventually Provisional Forest or just stick with Hercules and her Axe?

The picking up of Thanatos leads to a team of Thanatos, Osiris, Hades, and Lu Bu next...


DEJNOV.



P.S. Thanks for the advice; will keep working on the Dark team till the next miracle ticket.

I dont recommend mtix on hades, shes not core honestly. I would go with Pluto or Satan.

Grab Thanatos if you're planning to use Shingen, otherwise you can grab anyone if you're gonna use Hercules as you can reach the def cap using Nyar, Lu Bu and Hercules's max break limit ax. If you plan to get Thanatos, there's no need for Hercules as you can reach def cap without her, meaning you'd be better off with Shingen. Regardless, I'm sure you can clear the current content with either souls and whomever you get as long as you level up your grids.

Though I don't recommend tickets on Hades or Amon. I personally only use Hades for her atk down and Amon's only use is her -25% def down, which in that case you'd be better off just getting Satan for her -15% def down and -10% dark res which is basically the same.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Grab Thanatos if you're planning to use Shingen, otherwise you can grab anyone if you're gonna use Hercules as you can reach the def cap using Nyar, Lu Bu and Hercules's max break limit ax. If you plan to get Thanatos, there's no need for Hercules as you can reach def cap without her, meaning you'd be better off with Shingen. Regardless, I'm sure you can clear the current content with either souls and whomever you get as long as you level up your grids.

Though I don't recommend tickets on Hades or Amon. I personally only use Hades for her atk down and Amon's only use is her -25% def down, which in that case you'd be better off just getting Satan for her -15% def down and -10% dark res which is basically the same.

If not Amon, Hades, or Satan what would be a good Hime to get for Dark? Hercules is in about two to three weeks... Shingen needs Holy Soul Points which will take time (but I have no issue with that route either).

I'll stay of spending for Hercules axe for now also.


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

If not Amon, Hades, or Satan what would be a good Hime to get for Dark? Hercules is in about two to three weeks... Shingen needs Holy Soul Points which will take time (but I have no issue with that route either).

I'll stay of spending for Hercules axe for now also.


Dejnov.

Thanatos or Satan would be my suggestions. Then Pluto. Maybe Chernobog after but I haven't ever used her, though I hear she's rather strong. Samuel will be out mid-December but I don't think she'll be available in the upcoming miracle ticket, I could be wrong.

If you don't plan to use Hercules' ax, you may as well not use her at all then. That's really her only use if you don't even have Shingen unlocked to use PF as an ex skill. Hercules can hit hard I guess but that's about it. You may as well stick with Mordred for Black Propaganda and a free ex skill slot in that case.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Grab Thanatos if you're planning to use Shingen, otherwise you can grab anyone if you're gonna use Hercules as you can reach the def cap using Nyar, Lu Bu and Hercules's max break limit ax. If you plan to get Thanatos, there's no need for Hercules as you can reach def cap without her, meaning you'd be better off with Shingen. Regardless, I'm sure you can clear the current content with either souls and whomever you get as long as you level up your grids.

Do remember that getting Thanatos/Lu Bu/Nyar means He has to throw either Osiris or Susanoo from party (as Susanoo is probably not AW then it's not that big, but if she's AW then it'll be quite some damage loss).

Originally Posted by Aidoru

If you don't plan to use Hercules' ax, you may as well not use her at all then. That's really her only use if you don't even have Shingen unlocked to use PF as an ex skill. Hercules can hit hard I guess but that's about it. You may as well stick with Mordred for Black Propaganda and a free ex skill slot in that case.

This is... just wow.
It's like people see in Hercules just her DEF down and nuke. While I do agree that not using her Axe is basically not using her to full potential, I feel the need to remind people about her other aspects:
Ability 2: +30% ATK, +20% double attack rate, +15% triple attack rate, +30% burst gauge gained to self for 5 turns (7 turns cooldown for Herc)
Ability 3: +30% DEF, 30% reflect, some affliction resist, 300 regen every turn to self for 5 turns (7 turns cooldown for Herc)
Assist 1: Some ATK up (probably something like 5% or 8%, nothing really important)
Assist 2: -1 turn cooldown for abilities (including EX ability)

What do we make of it ?
First: she's fast. Not Shingen fast, but fast nevertheless. With team with Thanatos and Osiris you'll need some faster Soul (Shingen, Morgan, Herc or Arthur), if you don't want to end in situation when team is ready for Full Burst, but Soul still is sitting at 70 or 80 BG.
Second: She's tanky. When under buffs from third ability, she recieves about 45-46% less damage than other unbuffed Souls (depends on how much Master DEF bonus you have), also makes stacking damage cuts on her easier. When light rag starts deleting party members, there's a much higher chance that Herc will live when hit (at least through one nuke).
Third: Her second is helpful in some situations (having 5 turns cooldown for Sniper Shot instead of 6 turns makes GO run more smoothly for me) and has some rather niche, but powerful uses (3 turns cooldown for cleanse instead of 4, 4 turns cooldown for dispell instead of 5)

I mean, yeah, 25% DEF down at burst with her weapons is her biggest selling point, but saying it's really only good thing about her is like saying, thay Mordred is only good for Black Propaganda and forgetting about 10% ATK/DEF debuff, blind, dizziness and affliction resist down.

Hey quick question, is there an effective way to farm eidolon orbs? I've been slowly getting them by selling the raid battle eidos, but I was wondering if there was a better way to farm them.

Originally Posted by Xenos

Hey quick question, is there an effective way to farm eidolon orbs? I've been slowly getting them by selling the raid battle eidos, but I was wondering if there was a better way to farm them.

Selling R eidolons from gem gatcha, selling not useful event eidolons. In general getting eidolon orbs is a long term process.

this is a grindfest game, so get used... most of ppl were stockpiling eidos for some month tho
UE will fetch u a number of Lilims to sell

Odd question but does using provisional forest at under 50 burst reduce the effect? I've noticed using it from 20-50 burst still gives your team a burst bonus, and was wondering if there was any reason not to use it at 20 or 30 burst if you have a 4-man burst lined up. Normally I know you should never do this and only wait for full burst, but I'm messing around with using Arthur to insta-burst then get burst up for a 4-man burst with PV to kill lilim 1-2 turns quicker than normal xD.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

This is... just wow.
It's like people see in Hercules just her DEF down and nuke. While I do agree that not using her Axe is basically not using her to full potential, I feel the need to remind people about her other aspects:
Ability 2: +30% ATK, +20% double attack rate, +15% triple attack rate, +30% burst gauge gained to self for 5 turns (7 turns cooldown for Herc)
Ability 3: +30% DEF, 30% reflect, some affliction resist, 300 regen every turn to self for 5 turns (7 turns cooldown for Herc)
Assist 1: Some ATK up (probably something like 5% or 8%, nothing really important)
Assist 2: -1 turn cooldown for abilities (including EX ability)

What do we make of it ?
First: she's fast. Not Shingen fast, but fast nevertheless. With team with Thanatos and Osiris you'll need some faster Soul (Shingen, Morgan, Herc or Arthur), if you don't want to end in situation when team is ready for Full Burst, but Soul still is sitting at 70 or 80 BG.
Second: She's tanky. When under buffs from third ability, she recieves about 45-46% less damage than other unbuffed Souls (depends on how much Master DEF bonus you have), also makes stacking damage cuts on her easier. When light rag starts deleting party members, there's a much higher chance that Herc will live when hit (at least through one nuke).
Third: Her second is helpful in some situations (having 5 turns cooldown for Sniper Shot instead of 6 turns makes GO run more smoothly for me) and has some rather niche, but powerful uses (3 turns cooldown for cleanse instead of 4, 4 turns cooldown for dispell instead of 5)

I mean, yeah, 25% DEF down at burst with her weapons is her biggest selling point, but saying it's really only good thing about her is like saying, thay Mordred is only good for Black Propaganda and forgetting about 10% ATK/DEF debuff, blind, dizziness and affliction resist down.

Yes, you add all those abilities up without her ax and it can be summed up as "she hits hard" like I said. I mean I could point out good aspects of Solomon too but are you going to tell people to main her, probably not right? There's a reason why I said he may as well stick with Mordred instead of just using Hercules with Black Propaganda. I'm fully aware of how useful each soul can be.