Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

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Originally Posted by Gludateton

there was person that reported results, that would suggest that Dark Rush 20 slvl gives about 4-5% DA increase).

This is a good find, but you can't just skim raw data. It has to be carefully analyzed.

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The combined data has problems because some characters have innate boosts to combo attack rate and there's no control without the weapon equipped. So instead, let's look at Osiris.
16/142 (11.3%)
Base double attack rate is presumably 8%, so this might indicate a boost of 3% with one Dark SLVL20 (small) weapon. That would correspond to ~1-1.5% damage increase, compared to ~4% for a comparable Assault weapon. Unfortunately, this estimate is +/- several percent, so there's no telling what the actual rate is. Also, we have no idea if the tester remembered to remove accessories.

I just get Ssr Frey and obiusly will max her and unlock her episodes. But how good is she in the battlefield?
Right now I have only Sol (aw) and Michael, and in the back almost every sr light kami to choice (except for Diana). Rey looks just too strike forward without any debuff or special skill. But is she really capable of doing great damage to put in the party above another kamis with better skills?

Just want to hear your opinions.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I just get Ssr Frey and obiusly will max her and unlock her episodes. But how good is she in the battlefield?
Right now I have only Sol (aw) and Michael, and in the back almost every sr light kami to choice (except for Diana). Rey looks just too strike forward without any debuff or special skill. But is she really capable of doing great damage to put in the party above another kamis with better skills?

Just want to hear your opinions.

She's capable of good damage, that's about it. She's very good against enemies with a rage bar, as she deals extra large amounts of damage to enemy when in raging state, and her assist also gives her 15% more ATK when enemy is in rage... that, AND she has 5T crit chance with just a 7T CD.
Burst gauge up 15% with her offense ability, so she is pretty much a rage/burst nuker... better than SRs in main team. I believe she gets a future buff? but i'm not sure.
But it is worth using her in your main team alongside Sol/Micheal and Diana. GZ on finding her, btw

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

This is a good find, but you can't just skim raw data. It has to be carefully analyzed.

The combined data has problems because some characters have innate boosts to combo attack rate and there's no control without the weapon equipped. So instead, let's look at Osiris.
16/142 (11.3%)
Base double attack rate is presumably 8%, so this might indicate a boost of 3% with one Dark SLVL20 (small) weapon. That would correspond to ~1-1.5% damage increase, compared to ~4% for a comparable Assault weapon. Unfortunately, this estimate is +/- several percent, so there's no telling what the actual rate is. Also, we have no idea if the tester remembered to remove accessories.

The problem here is actually low number of samples. Which of those Soul/Kamihime (Satan, Thanatos, Arthur) have innate combo rate up ? As far as I can see, both Thanatos and Satan have ATK up as assist.
My whole point here was to be careful about taking Rush/Barrage data from JP wiki as accurate, because there are some point that would suggest they are not. I certainly wasn't making point that S Rush is 4/5% at 20 slvl (because it's probably not).

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Which of those Soul/Kamihime (Satan, Thanatos, Arthur) have innate combo rate up ? As far as I can see, both Thanatos and Satan have ATK up as assist.

I could have sworn that combo attack rate up was one of the Master bonuses. Maybe not. Pluto definitely has bonuses. Awakened characters get bonuses also (if applicable; I didn't check the Awakening calendar and compare to the characters used and the date posted). Honestly I'm just skeptical overall without a control group. We assume that the base rate is 8% without this weapon, but there's a lot of variables that could be getting overlooked. For all we know, some characters have undocumented custom rates.

Honestly the game needs to display these modifiers so players don't have to guess.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Honestly the game needs to display these modifiers so players don't have to guess.

Actually, that's kind of what these kinds of games try to do. They don't feed all the info so they try to have players figure it out.

Hence why so many skills and weapons have +, ++, and ++++. The only thing we really can know at a first glance is that the more +, the better.

Yet something with + can be 10% and a different skill can also have + yet be 15%. This game is honestly vague as hell and if it wasn't for datamining, then the content likely would have been at a lower skill ceiling given there'd be less optimizations...

It's just MMO 101... the more mechanics get abused, the more dev's throw stuff to counter or fit that

(Hell, I have to rebalance the game I'm making due to beta demo feedback and it's not even an mmo. Someone that LPed it even datamined it themselves...)

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I could have sworn that combo attack rate up was one of the Master bonuses. Maybe not. Pluto definitely has bonuses. Awakened characters get bonuses also (if applicable; I didn't check the Awakening calendar and compare to the characters used and the date posted). Honestly I'm just skeptical overall without a control group. We assume that the base rate is 8% without this weapon, but there's a lot of variables that could be getting overlooked. For all we know, some characters have undocumented custom rates.

Honestly the game needs to display these modifiers so players don't have to guess.

I wanted to include notice about master skills but the date of post is 2017/05/27 which means no master skills and no Satan AW, also Pluto has combo rate up only with block buff (ironically Pluto was excluded from calculations because of low DATA occurence, which I think is wrong move).
As I have said earlier: too low number of samples, so at most you can make assumption that S Rush 20 slvl is higher than 1% and even that is quite farfetched.

I'll do my own tests someday and when they're done (or at least partly done), I'll post them here. Stay tuned (or not).

Originally Posted by Gludateton

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I'll do my own tests someday and when they're done (or at least partly done), I'll post them here. Stay tuned (or not).

I at least am certainly very interested in both base and how the skill levels work.

And there's zero chance of me bothering to do it myself, so.

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