Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Did you read this? I really don't think that you should be beelining for Hercules. Mordred and Dartagnan are a pitstops you should visit first.

By the time that you get strong, we might be in age of Shingen too, so uh, hard to say.

Need help with DMM wind team. Current team is Mordred (Arthur's buff), Frigg (not implemented on Nutaku, heal with - wind resist debuff), Iblis, wind Rami, Arianrod. I've got Herc with no axe (i'm saving mats for Shingen's weapon), can buy any non - HS soul, no Shingen for now. Today i've got Aether. Question - who should I replace with her? Rami or Iblis? And is there a good reason to swap soul to Herc (bp as ex?) and buy an axe. Grid is mediocre - i even have 5 sr bows + lb0 shadow one, no single flb weapons.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Did you read this? I really don't think that you should be beelining for Hercules. Mordred and Dartagnan are a pitstops you should visit first.

By the time that you get strong, we might be in age of Shingen too, so uh, hard to say.

I did read it and I saw a lot of bolded hercules, lol, "If in doubt, go with Hercules." But yeah, I'll try getting mordred and dart first. But still, do I save my soul weapon materials for now? Like if shingen is gonna be the go to but takes 6 or more months to get am I gonna be saving for 6 months until I get shingen, or do I just spend them for my most used souls?

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Personally I would take Shingen+SS with this setup, you'll have debuffs pretty much covered and team has pretty good pace (Baal U, Brahma have good combo rate, Marduk has instant burst).



That's interesting, while I do get why you'd prefer Mammon (easier to hit dmg cap on skills, higher attack power), giving Baal U treatment of debuff slave is quite not right. She has pretty potent DATA self-buff (+30% DA, +20% TA according to JP wiki) with really good up-time (6/8) and damage of her first skill is not that bad either (600k cap, but it may not be that easy to hit).

Thank you Gludateton and Kitty. Any other thoughts on best thunder team (esp with new water UE coming up)?

Dart vs Herc vs Shingen
Mammon vs BaalU

Can someone explain why all talk about debuffs only? Buffs oriented team much worse, isn't it?

Also any thoughts about Arianrod and water Osiris?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can someone explain why all talk about debuffs only? Buffs oriented team much worse, isn't it?

Also any thoughts about Arianrod and water Osiris?

You mean why I shit on debuffs over buffs now? I'll just compress it for you:

Future bosses have a lot of anti debuff shit. Hrags? High debuff res. Tower 15F? High debuff res. Icarus GO? High debuff res. Barong GO? Punishes blue skills with wanpan without a limit on the trigger (which are basically debuff skills). Raid bosses? Some also punish blue skills.

Basically, there will come a point with higher level content where builds solely centered on debuff won't work anymore. Buffs wise, for early himes yeah, they're pretty shit no lie. But the further the game goes, you start getting pretty borken shit on the buffs department.

Arian is worth keeping in your team simply because +100 burst is never a bad thing. As for her other skillsets... it's decent. Nothing to sneeze at, but also nothing to really wow at, as compared to the already existing wind chaingun team. You might get some use out of her during UE if you're a paraslave though.

Water Osiris is pre gud at doing what water already does pretty well: turtling. Not much else really needs to be said for her skillset I don't think. Also she's gone from the gacha now so this talk wouldn't really matter much anyway.

Unless you buy her for the low low cost of 150 dragon eyes! Alright brb kms

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can someone explain why all talk about debuffs only? Buffs oriented team much worse, isn't it?

Also any thoughts about Arianrod and water Osiris?

Well, I'm no expert on this game yet but this is something pretty normal on lots of RPGs. Usually, buffs and debuffs are percentage based, and enemies stats (specially bosses) tend to be larger numbers than your characters stats. So, it's usually better to, say, reduce 1000 atk from the boss than increase 200 def to your characters. And that's even more normal for online games like these where powercreep is a thing and the standard way of devs to deal with fully leveled and equipped players is to just throw enemies with bigger stats.

Btw, I'm enjoying the tower event. I actually think it's kind of newbie friendly. I don't need to invest huge amounts of time on it to get a pretty decent payoff. I think I should be able to get at least one of the accesories pack for my main element and for me that's a lot considering I don't have any atm. And it doesn't even cost any AP or BP :O

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

You mean why I shit on debuffs over buffs now? I'll just compress it for you:

Future bosses have a lot of anti debuff shit. Hrags? High debuff res. Tower 15F? High debuff res. Icarus GO? High debuff res. Barong GO? Punishes blue skills with wanpan without a limit on the trigger (which are basically debuff skills). Raid bosses? Some also punish blue skills.

Basically, there will come a point with higher level content where builds solely centered on debuff won't work anymore. Buffs wise, for early himes yeah, they're pretty shit no lie. But the further the game goes, you start getting pretty borken shit on the buffs department.

You describe reasons why my question appears... Debuffs so rarely landed, but all peoples still talking about them. And no good analysis for buffs team. Also in Sanahtlig's Guide all strategies have good debuffs description, but buffs...

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Unless you buy her for the low low cost of 150 dragon eyes! Alright brb kms

Already have her, so just wondering how she will fit in team

So besides Youtube and similar sites, is there a place where can I watch/read past events chapters? Totally missed the history of "Guest of Terror" and just noticed

May as well check the other raid events before"Casino Killing" while I'm at it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You describe reasons why my question appears... Debuffs so rarely landed, but all peoples still talking about them. And no good analysis for buffs team. Also in Sanahtlig's Guide all strategies have good debuffs description, but buffs...[/SIZE]

Because those are future content. Debuff-centered gameplay still very much works here for the hardest content (save for WiRag and tower 11/ 15F). Whether reliance of debuffs continues to be a thing here... it's a matter of time. The only worry(?) I have would be if this forum starts to recommend to not clear content like hrags and things.

I don't exactly know why buffs don't get much talk, but apparently there seems to be a stigma around here floating around with buffs being a rather meh thing. Some good buffers already exist out here (all your % dmg mit himes, Pluto, Athena, Berith etc), and even more stronger ones exist in the future. As far as Sana's guide goes... well he can answer that better than I can.

Already have her, so just wondering how she will fit in team

Pretty well. She's the only C frame atk break that water has, and on top of that has team dmg cut + heal. And kind of acts as a tank at the same time. A team with Raphy Ryu-Oh Osiris should pretty much have you covered... and the last slot is basically a wildcard. Oh, and stick her as the last hime since skill 3 eats some burst.

Originally Posted by Niime

So besides Youtube and similar sites, is there a place where can I watch/read past events chapters? Totally missed the history of "Guest of Terror" and just noticed

May as well check the other raid events before"Casino Killing" while I'm at it.

Try checking "library" when opening the menu tab.