Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

Going back to this... does this show up in the Edit screen?

I mean, let's say that you have a LB0 Phantom Hammer in your Grid that has 1000 Atk on it. Does it show up as 1000 Atk on your Grid but your Hime gain 1300 from it, or does it show 1300 on your Edit screen already and you can only see the base 1000 Atk if you inspect the item itself?

It will show up in your grid with the updated stats aswell as every other weapon of that type.

All Lances are max level aswell as the 0LB Null Lance

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Originally Posted by Delete

I use some. Wind has little Defender options, so I'm using the Koihime Defender SSR weapon. I would love to change it, but not many options on the near future. On Dark I used the Medusa Glaive literally until yesterday, now Dark team has all weapons with Assault/Pride. And then there is D'Artagnan HP Soul weapon on Thunder, but that is a special case.

Speaking of Wind, funny that until Garuda's 2nd reprint half a year away, the best option to pick up more HP will be Sitri's weapon from Monoceros raid next month. It's Assault (S)/Defender (S), and yes, it's yet another gun.
Then there's Garuda hammer itself, plus the axe that's Vigoras (M)/Defender (S). Unfortunate that the thunder tower event takes place before Garuda... xP

So first Rush weapon skill test is done. Wanted to get 10,000 attack samples, but then I thought it's completely pointless, so stopped earlier. Things in spoiler.

->Open Spoiler<-

Test basis:
1. Team consists of: Hercules/Nike/Oceanus/Ganges/Kushinada, Sub: Undinde/Rusalka
2. Nike and Oceanus had accessories equipped in first few battles (leftover from tower event, no DA/TA), which were later removed.
3. Weapons equipped: 7x Frost Bow Nahalzanab (Assault(M), Rush(S)), 1x Cannon Ilul Lore (Defender (M), Rush(S))
4. All bows were LB 0 lvl 1 slvl 1, gun was MLB, lvl 125, slvl 1.
5. Eidolons equipped: Meng Huo (main eidolon), Illuyanka, Yam.
6. All eidolons were max lvl.
7. Support eidolons chosen by preference in order: Meng Huo > Diabolos > Jormungandr > Jack Frost > Vlad.
8. All battles were done againts "Cave of Conflagration" Expert level.
9. Maiden's Prayer taken as ex skill.
10. Only heal and cleanse skills were used (aside from one Herc's defensive buff misclick).
11. It is assumed that poison, scorch and blind debuffs have no impact on DATA.
12. It is assumed that RNG is decent (tbh I am starting to think it's not).
13. No Kamihime died in course of test.
14. All battles used for test were recorded, data was taken from recordings.

Results ([Total number of attacks]/SA/DA/TA):
Hercules: [953]/832/84/37
Nike: [906]/800/82/24
Oceanus: [876]/785/72/19
Ganges: [843]/747/72/24
Kushinada: [811]/726/70/15
Total: [4389]/3890/380/119

Probabilistic results (SA/DA/TA):
Hercules: 87.30/8.81/3.88
Nike: 88.30/9.05/2.65
Oceanus: 89.61/8.22/2.17
Ganges: 88.61/8.54/2.85
Kushinada: 89.52/8.63/1.85
Total: 88.63/8.66/2.71

Conclusions:
Pretty much none. Few things one can derive from results (they are not certain though):
1. Rush(S) base percentage is 0%.
2. Rush(S) increase per slvl is probably either 0.05% or 0.1%.
3. Base chance for DA we know (8%) is probably right.
4. Base chance for TA we know (3%) couldn't be confirmed.

Next step is enhancing every included weapon to 5 or 10 slvl (10 slvl is obviously better, but cost is way to high, so I'll probably settle for 5 slvl). I'll try to make next test for at least 5,000 attacks total, don't expect it too soon though.

Can someone explain to me how Healing Capabilities works? If I equip it to Sol, for example, does it increase how much she heals ALL my Himes, or just the amount she herself recovers?

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Can someone explain to me how Healing Capabilities works? If I equip it to Sol, for example, does it increase how much she heals ALL my Himes, or just the amount she herself recovers?

Heals: It increases the total heal output from your hime, so a party heal casted by her is affected by this accessory effect.

Regen: Only affects the hime wearing the accessory with the effect.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Heals: It increases the total heal output from your hime, so a party heal casted by her is affected by this accessory effect.

3k heal on cast incoming. Thanks @Cobblemaniac

Hello, can someone tell me what is the best team to beat the Dark Ragnarok daily (Darkness Catastrophe)?

Please try to be detailed, if you have a good team for that boss, please write all the names of the Kamis.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Assuming that the 20x Rate is true, then coin-flip chance on Thanatos specifically is 1200 dollars. And remember, that's a COIN CLIP. You can lose a coin flip multiple times. Even at 3600 dollars, your chances are not 100%.

Where are you getting $1200? My calculations yield $990 as an upper bound for a 20x rate. Only when I do the calculation with a 15x rate does the cost reach $1136.

There are 8 * 8 +3 = 67 SSR kamihime in the pool. There are two ways to interpret 20x; either the typical rate has been amplified to be 20x, or the hime is weighted to over 20x what she normally would be. The latter is obviously the less favorable interpretation. With the outdated assumption that himes and eidolons are weighted 1:1 (with the gacha rates thread suggesting otherwise), we obtain:

Amplified by 20x: (0.03/2) * 20/67
Weighted by 20x: (0.03/2) * 20/143

(1 - rate)^N = 0.5 --------> N = log(0.5) / log(1 - rate)

Amplified by 20x: N = 153.456 ---> $460.37
Weighted by 20x: N = 330.053 ---> $990.16

The cost lowers to $385.97 and $824.96 respectively if we weigh kamihimes to take 0.6 of the SSR pool instead of 0.5.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

So first Rush weapon skill test is done. Wanted to get 10,000 attack samples, but then I thought it's completely pointless, so stopped earlier. Things in spoiler.

Jesus christ the triple attack chance was all over the place.

Good work, looking forward to the rest.

Originally Posted by zarnyh

Hello, can someone tell me what is the best team to beat the Dark Ragnarok daily (Darkness Catastrophe)?

Please try to be detailed, if you have a good team for that boss, please write all the names of the Kamis.

I just ask for my Union to carry my ass during Burst Hour. It's a raid, you don't need to solo it.

Originally Posted by KTA

Where are you getting $1200?

I literally just slapped the current # of SSR Hime into Sanathlig's Gacha calc and looked for the point where the chance to find 1 out of 4 Rate Up Hime at 20x Rate Up was 50%.

But come to think of it, the 50/50 thing isn't accurate with current findings.
EDIT: Updating the chances of SSR Hime/Eidolons to 62,85%/37,15% drops the coinflip chance to 810 bucks.

Originally Posted by zarnyh

Hello, can someone tell me what is the best team to beat the Dark Ragnarok daily (Darkness Catastrophe)?

Please try to be detailed, if you have a good team for that boss, please write all the names of the Kamis.

In terms of what you need to solo it, Sol AW. In terms of the best team to kill it, my personal experience favors:

Tishtrya/Frey --- Sol AW --- [Moonlight Profusion] Artemis --- [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi

If you're not running Tishtrya, EX Skill is Sniper Shot. Otherwise, take whatever you want. Subs don't really matter here, but the rule of thumb is to choose Metatron for Sub-1 if you have her. Otherwise, Attar is also good if your HP/Ascension is lacking.

Tishtrya is in general a much better pick for the first slot than Frey, but the Dark Catastrophe's specific strategy of stunning it at full orbs and only having 8 defense means that Frey can easily break the damage cap on a Full Burst to speed things up.