Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm pretty sure you're getting trolled...? Diana might not be the fastest around, but 7t guaranteed burst can easily be used to get 4t bursts by just pre using the skill and holding. This, in combo with her 4t vigor on 7t CDs... and heals to make it useful... and yet, being compared to Nike. Just... what?

I don't even know if this counts as trolling. Every single post I've seen lalala make on this forum is a borken argument of how top tier himes don't compare to himes like Gabriel, og form or summer form.

Even I don't let my dick influence my argument that far...

Hey everyone,

I’ve been playing for a few months now and was hoping to get some general direction on progression. I’m currently rank 72, water main with Rudra. Getting very close to 40k on my main screen. I’ve gotten to a point where I can clear up to stage 3 on GO (might be because it’s currently fire) and rank 3 accessory quests. Here’s what I have at the moment:

himes: Ryu-oh, Snow Raphael, SR Nike, Venus
souls: mordred, arthur, hercules
eidolons: rudra, tiamat, event ssr’s
weapons: Rahab knife (advent ssr lv 10 assault ++), herc axe (still only 1 copy, lv8 vigor), 7 raid sr’s (lv 14 assault +), 1 SR from water union (lv 14 assault +). all are 1500+ atk with rahab knife at 2200atk

My questions are:
1. What soul should I be going for next? I was thinking Andromeda since she’d help me with GO and I don’t really need D’art anytime soon with Ryu-oh
2. Now that I can farm orihalcons (slowly), what water weapon should I get?
3. My weapon grid is lacking SSR’s because I was much weaker during the water UE and was on vacation for most of the rahab advent (feels bad). Should I continue skill leveling the SR raid weapons, or start working on other grids like Wind while I wait for water events?
4. What’s a good set-up for weapon skills for a water grid? My understanding is that assault/assault + defender is best with pride coming in next - is there a recommended number of each?
5. Have I reached the point where I should start funneling my resources to all of my other elemental teams? Honestly, I have close to nothing for other elements except a couple SSR weapons from the events. I’m lacking himes in general right now because i’ve been saving jewels for Vohu Manah.
6. If there’s anything that I might be missing in terms of what I should be doing or focusing on, please let me know.

If anyone reads through all of this, thank you for your time

Originally Posted by Mirai

Hey everyone,

I’ve been playing for a few months now and was hoping to get some general direction on progression. I’m currently rank 72, water main with Rudra. Getting very close to 40k on my main screen. I’ve gotten to a point where I can clear up to stage 3 on GO (might be because it’s currently fire) and rank 3 accessory quests. Here’s what I have at the moment:

himes: Ryu-oh, Snow Raphael, SR Nike, Venus
souls: mordred, arthur, hercules
eidolons: rudra, tiamat, event ssr’s
weapons: Rahab knife (advent ssr lv 10 assault ++), herc axe (still only 1 copy, lv8 vigor), 7 raid sr’s (lv 14 assault +), 1 SR from water union (lv 14 assault +). all are 1500+ atk with rahab knife at 2200atk

My questions are:
1. What soul should I be going for next? I was thinking Andromeda since she’d help me with GO and I don’t really need D’art anytime soon with Ryu-oh
2. Now that I can farm orihalcons (slowly), what water weapon should I get?
3. My weapon grid is lacking SSR’s because I was much weaker during the water UE and was on vacation for most of the rahab advent (feels bad). Should I continue skill leveling the SR raid weapons, or start working on other grids like Wind while I wait for water events?
4. What’s a good set-up for weapon skills for a water grid? My understanding is that assault/assault + defender is best with pride coming in next - is there a recommended number of each?
5. Have I reached the point where I should start funneling my resources to all of my other elemental teams? Honestly, I have close to nothing for other elements except a couple SSR weapons from the events. I’m lacking himes in general right now because i’ve been saving jewels for Vohu Manah.
6. If there’s anything that I might be missing in terms of what I should be doing or focusing on, please let me know.

If anyone reads through all of this, thank you for your time

1. Cass is enough heal, take D’art because SS is the best EX skill for things like GO
2. Save it for FLB
3. Try to max your main ele first since you have rudra and move to the other ( or at least SL20 SR and SL11 SSR)
4. SSR dual skill assault/pride+defender>SSR dual skill assault/pride> SSR single skill assault/pride>SR assault.
5. For a F2P, hime come randomly so you just use what you have. Just prepare the grid and wait for the hime
6. Have you start your gemcha cycle yet ?, your grid is quite weak for a few months player

source being it's already half AP on the chinese ver which is the same as nutaku ver in being 12 months behind DMM jp ver. chinese version usually has campaigns first like gacha, etc and nutaku has it a few days after.

Originally Posted by Mirai

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My questions are:
1. What soul should I be going for next? I was thinking Andromeda since she’d help me with GO and I don’t really need D’art anytime soon with Ryu-oh

Since you're not clearing stage 4 GO, survival seems to be an issue for you. Joan does amazing in that. You can do great things by either combining Snow Raphael damage cut to (nearly) entirely negate enemy attacks, or cycle Joan -> Snow Raph -> Joan if you need more time.

As the other guy above me said, it seems like you're missing out on damage output still though. Swapping to Joan will prevent you from reaching -50% Def, which certainly won't help. Anyway, I'd try with Joan and get full slvl20 Grid, then you can most likely run Herc again. Or just run Herc for general content and Joan when the incoming damage is too much to handle.

Originally Posted by Mirai

2. Now that I can farm orihalcons (slowly), what water weapon should I get?

None of the Ori weapons in the exchange seem amazing, sadly. The 1-cost one has no Assault, and none of the three 2-cost weapons are Assault + Defender/Exceed. So they're all things you'll eventually drop. Spend Ori if you really feel you need it, but remember that you need them for FLBs as well.

Originally Posted by Mirai

3. My weapon grid is lacking SSR’s because I was much weaker during the water UE and was on vacation for most of the rahab advent (feels bad). Should I continue skill leveling the SR raid weapons, or start working on other grids like Wind while I wait for water events?

I'd get Water fully maxed out so that you have one solid team to fight with.

Originally Posted by Mirai

4. What’s a good set-up for weapon skills for a water grid? My understanding is that assault/assault + defender is best with pride coming in next - is there a recommended number of each?

Rule #1: Assault, Assault, Assault. Prides count as Assault, but every weapon must have Assault.

A secondary skill is highly valuable, particularly if there's HP on it. As for how much HP, eh, the more the better? I don't think there's really a "too much" for that, especially since most players don't get to choose what they have. They have what they have.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

I don't even know if this counts as trolling. Every single post I've seen lalala make on this forum is a borken argument of how top tier himes don't compare to himes like Gabriel, og form or summer form.

Even I don't let my dick influence my argument that far...

Actually my point here is just that W. Diana is neither fast nor reliable for party-wide BG generation. If I had Shingen or alternative means of fast BG generation for all party members, perhaps it might work but I don't. That was what this discussion was originally about.
Is W. Diana top tier? That's a genuine question by the way.

Let me try to break down some things.

First of all, Water aint the fastest of the elements, so a Hime like Diana is not a big issue to have in there.
At that point of her release you also got Cthulhu AW. She can give an additional 20 BG to party if her Orb Eater has success.
Now, the other thing is, Tiara Accessory Sets are in general mandatory anyways. That's a huge boost to the speedgame.
Still, you cant compare Water to the likes of Light or Fire where some Hime just have a speed where not many can keep up with at all.

Now, lets consider Diana's influence. On one hand, she has her 100% BG Skill. You can use it in different ways, either to make sure she can line up with all others, be a connecter for Bursts or use it as an additional 10BG gain. This highly depends on the situation you are in and is nothing to be set in stone.
The other part is, she gains 20 BG after Burst, this lets her stay on pace for the follow-up cycle, so she doesnt need someone like Saras to let her keep up. In addition, she has a DA passive, so that helps as well.
Here is now the big thing: She offers a Vigor-Party-Buff + dmg cap increase, which is not only a rare but also a strong buff in this game. Combine all this together and you have a solid Hime that is on a medium pace with some strong support.

Conclusion: It is still hard to tell if she is top-tier or not, but, she sure helps Water to have a solid pace and increases the overall damage.

Originally Posted by Itoshira

Still, you cant compare Water to the likes of Light or Fire where some Hime just have a speed where not many can keep up with at all.

How does a fast fire team look like?
Uriel AW, Fire Frey, Svarog AW and SSR Fire Amon?

And is Haruhi mandatory?

Haruhi is a better Svarog AW basically. She does pretty much what Svarog does, but is faster.
Uriel is still a pick, but Vahagn is a more picked choice.

Fire Frey, Svarog AW/Haruhi, Vahagn, SSR Amon.

Originally Posted by Itoshira

Haruhi is a better Svarog AW basically. She does pretty much what Svarog does, but is faster.
Uriel is still a pick, but Vahagn is a more picked choice.

Fire Frey, Svarog AW/Haruhi, Vahagn, SSR Amon.

Dosen't Vahagn has one big issue?
After 5T she will do less damage. Furthermore you would need 3 Exceed weapons so that she can hit cap. Because of her 50% Vigor buff.